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*realizes why i hate brawl samus*
- Thread starter Xyro77
- Start date
Deception
Smash Ace
I hate when that happens. Oh well, better use more f-tilt.
Mizar
Smash Ace
Lol hahah, great 
Deception is right. Weak f-tilt <3
Deception is right. Weak f-tilt <3
Smash_Gigas
Smash Lord
Almost every time I fight another Samus mainer, this happens.
Hive
Smash Lord
LOL that totally looks like patty cake or something
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
its about the hitstun.........there isnt any!!!!!!!!!
VirisKnite
Smash Journeyman
Wait is it only samus who doesn't have hitstun from her jab or is this true for other chars?
Hive
Smash Lord
well, if they don't its their loss
I mean, just 130 or whatever of those awesome jabs and the enemy is in ko potential, I think this will raise samus to top tier at least...
lol
I mean, just 130 or whatever of those awesome jabs and the enemy is in ko potential, I think this will raise samus to top tier at least...
lol
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
wow
the NO HIT STUN(or next to no hit stun) is with ALL characters.
this is one of the MAIN reasons why people hate brawl.
Wheres tudor or rohins when you need them?
the NO HIT STUN(or next to no hit stun) is with ALL characters.
this is one of the MAIN reasons why people hate brawl.
Wheres tudor or rohins when you need them?
VirisKnite
Smash Journeyman
Lemme just make sure I'm understanding this right. The no hit stun means we as Samus players can immediately get smacked out of our jab. Which is why this is BAD.
So is that line of reasoning correct?
So is that line of reasoning correct?
Rohins
Smash Lord
this is the story of why I scream when I accidently jab snake or ike.
edit:
below 90%
edit2:
that is an approximation...
While on topic of Samus' jab. Jabbing Marth at low %'s allows him to fsmash you before you can do anything :D
edit:
below 90%
edit2:
that is an approximation...
While on topic of Samus' jab. Jabbing Marth at low %'s allows him to fsmash you before you can do anything :D
Hive
Smash Lord
we should find a way to hack melee samus into brawl ^^ then there would be real pwnage!
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
i some times dream of this. but i cant allow myself. brawl is the future. holding on to melee only hurts the over all smash scene(in my opinion)
solitonmedic
Potassium, potassium
Lol! That was funny! XD
0RLY
A great conversation filler at bars and parties
Hay guys, afaik, Samus' jab comes out in 3 frames. A shield is put up in 2 frames. Instead of holding down the A button, you could just powershield (it's almost impossible to not powershield) and then punish with dtilt, screw attack, or something. It takes quick thinking to know what to do next instead of doing the same thing over and over again.
On a side note, this reminds me of SuperDoodleMan's Perfect Control video. Remember that one clip of Mario and Luigi alternating jabs? Good stuff. I think that had something to do with crouch canceling though.
On a side note, this reminds me of SuperDoodleMan's Perfect Control video. Remember that one clip of Mario and Luigi alternating jabs? Good stuff. I think that had something to do with crouch canceling though.
Crystanium
Smash Hero
I'm so used to using the C-stick for smashes, that when I went to play Melee, it didn't work the same way as Brawl. That's an improvement in my opinion.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
melee had crouch cancelling....the 2nd most important aspect of melee samus IMO
0RLY
A great conversation filler at bars and parties
^ the 3rd most important aspect for me.
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
And this is why other fighting communities make fun of us.
There's nothing wrong with having 2 games being played competitively. >_> Why the **** is Super Turbo still being played?
Hive
Smash Lord
street fighter is really almost as big as smash bros.?! bleck 
Mortal Kombat usto be way kwler anyways...
ps sound effect from mortal kombat 3- Lu Kang's bicycle kick!
http://www.freewebs.com/watlersvgsfxmk31/Goble.wav
Mortal Kombat usto be way kwler anyways...
ps sound effect from mortal kombat 3- Lu Kang's bicycle kick!
http://www.freewebs.com/watlersvgsfxmk31/Goble.wav
People make fun of Smash Boards because Smash was never designed to be played competitively, and people here tend to take it super seriously. Compare it to Street Fighter 4, which is, and you get my point.
I mean FFS, there is a pretty good chance you'll trip into the forward Smash AND LOSE. This is why I can't take Brawl seriously competitively.
I'm not saying it doesn't take Skill, Smash takes tons of skill, and its nice to see the MLG use a console game that isn't FPS Special Olympics (Or Halo 3 as its more commonly referred to).
The vast majority of people that play Smash Bros play it as a fun multiplayer game, which is its intended purpose. As much as a competitive Smash Bros would own, its never going to happen, so until then enjoy fighting Metaknight's lagless attacks and tripping!
I'd love to see an Unreal Engine 3 powered Smash game that was rigorously balanced by top players with every characters.
VirisKnite
Smash Journeyman
I second this. That plus better a wifi experience, so we can have a ranking board also.
i1337
Smash Ace
lol............
Onxy
Smash Lord
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People can knock Samus out of jab......or even kill her. Nice reward for hitting the opponent first, right? This is the nature of bad games.
I personally hate this game, I only like PT, lol.
0RLY
A great conversation filler at bars and parties
What kill move comes out in less than 3 frames?
Mars-
Smash Champion
Crouch cancelling was actually really overated. When you play a higher level player, staying in the same place after getting hit helps them more then you.
Onxy
Smash Lord
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Anyone can jab Samus out of her jab, and some jabs can kill at high percentages. *looks at Ike*
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
WDing into CC is VERY handy. and trust me i play at high level
Completely agree with this, although i always used to Crouch cancel to stop combo's and instantly (it was literally instant) use a d-tilt to start combo's of my own.
J4pu
Smash Champion
This would only matter if the hitstun is = or > the cool down lag from the first Jab. I don't know whether or not it's true, just making sure false assumptions don't go out there.
0RLY
A great conversation filler at bars and parties
@ ↑: I was talking about powershielding, not hitstun
Mars-
Smash Champion
Yeah, it's nice when it works, but it is punishable. I remember watching hugs play and if you look at his matches he will cc for a second just to take a hit he knew was coming and then hit back.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
thats the whole point of CC
harriettheguy
Smash Lord
noob: "b-b-b-but i dont wanna get hit!!!! (mashes buttons and hits back)"
"Yes im so goot i got out of your control"
"Yes im so goot i got out of your control"
sheik is still fast enough to use jab cancels and mixup with jabs and tilts - her jab is useful - samus's are alright but she doesn't have a ton of variety to mix in XD