Realistically breaking sheilds with marth

[TresChikon]

Wait, like a crossover? I didn't quite catch that.

 

[AprilShaw]

When I use shield breaker, I do SH F-Air -> Shield Breaker. If I wanna land behind them I use a B-Air so I turn around haha

 

[Dark Sonic]

It takes just a TINY bit more than 2 uncharged shield breakers to break a shield (the tiny bit is them shielding in reaction to you attacking, and also the little bit of shield lost while they're in shieldstun AFTER the shield breaker).

It's far from "insignificant." It doesn't APPEAR to be much because the decrease in size isn't really dramatic, but I gurantee you if they have less than half of a shield left then a shield breaker will break it.

 

[AustinRC]

Kind of like a crossover, he hits their sheild goes all the way through. Then he returns to his neutral positon and its right in front of the opponent.

 

[TresChikon]

Soo... let's say it works, should I tip a D-smash, someone told me it's more hardcore than Fox's usmash.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Marth's dsmash has good vertical knockback, but I don't think it's Fox usmash good.

 

[TemPesT-]

cosmo would probably disagree.

10cosmo's

 

[TresChikon]

Dunno, but it'd be unorthodox.

"Haha, he's charging D-sma-ZOOOMGwereblastingoff4gain!"

 

[AprilShaw]

D-smash owns Bowser, no joke.

like 99% of the time it'll shield poke him :D and chars like Mr. G&W and DK too I'm guessing.

 

[Dark Sonic]

If you do manage to break a shield, fully charged shieldbreaker is typically your strongest attack (if it's on a low ceiling level you MAY wanna go with fully charged d-smash on floatier characters I guess <_<). If you happen to get a shield break at low percents, just setup up a nice long combo (I like to start with dair->grab->****, or dair->uptilt. No crouch cancel for you!)

 

[TresChikon]

just setup up a nice long combo

That sounds so morbidly sadistic, yet incredible at the same time

 

[skrach8]

fox can kill another fox with a fresh up smash at exactly 86%, no di, on fd.

marth can kill fox with a fresh tippered down smash from the front at 93%, no di, on fd..... and i believe the same percentage from behind though being a little weaker, so i want to say 94%.

the shield breaker is more powerful at the tip, damage wise and in terms of breaking shields.

 

[SheerMadness]

Dear Skrach

How bout u focus on trying to beat me instead of breaking shields.

Sincerely,
SheerMadness

 

[Dark Sonic]

Dear Skrach

How bout u focus on trying to beat me instead of breaking shields.

Sincerely,
SheerMadness

Should I teach him how to do it?

 

[skrach8]

teach me how to do it when you break colbol shield.... then let me know, till then son... U AINT ON MY LEVEL.....

hey sheer did u like when i broke ur shield?

 

[Dark Sonic]

teach me how to do it when you break colbol shield.... then let me know, till then son... U AINT ON MY LEVEL.....

hey sheer did u like when i broke ur shield?

I meant the beat Sheermadness part, cause I do that all the time .

 

[SheerMadness]

Hahaha ooooh DarkSonic, u hungry?

You did **** me last tourney.

But before that we've always been pritty even.

The only reason Skrach beats me 90% of the time is because I let him. If i didn't let him win he'd never beat me. I do it to boost his confidence.

 

[AustinRC]

Hahaha ooooh DarkSonic, u hungry?

You did **** me last tourney.

But before that we've always been pritty even.

The only reason Skrach beats me 90% of the time is because I let him. If i didn't let him win he'd never beat me. I do it to boost his confidence.

Dont really know you but that sounds like MAD johns right there. You shouldnt let people win its kinda mean. Anyway yeah. <3 <3 <3

 

[Dark Sonic]

Hahaha ooooh DarkSonic, u hungry?

You did **** me last tourney.

But before that we've always been pritty even.

The only reason Skrach beats me 90% of the time is because I let him. If i didn't let him win he'd never beat me. I do it to boost his confidence.

Strange, I recall being something like 5-1 with you in tournament sets

Friendlies don't mean ****

+10 egos

 

[TresChikon]

Can you guys let me beat you in the next tourney? I'm sure the grand prize would boost my low self-esteem.

 

[SheerMadness]

I lose to people in tourney by 2-3 stocks who I've gone even with in friendlies for 3-4 years, like yourself. I'm a terrible tourney player.

I'd say the fact that we've gone about 50/50 in our millions of friendlies over the past 3-4 years is a much better scale of our comparative skill levels then like 6 tourney sets. But thats just my opinion.

Anyway just to clarify I was obviously just ****ing around with Skrach. He beats me like 90% of the time in friendlies and 100% of the time in tourneys!

 

[Dark Sonic]

I lose to people in tourney by 2-3 stocks who I've gone even with in friendlies for 3-4 years, like yourself. I'm a terrible tourney player.

I'd say the fact that we've gone about 50/50 in our millions of friendlies over the past 3-4 years is a much better scale of our comparative skill levels then like 6 tourney sets. But thats just my opinion.

I don't know, I like to pride myself on being a decent tourney player (most of the time), cause I don't crack under pressure as often as most people do.

But yeah, we go pretty even. I just like gloating

Anyway just to clarify I was obviously just ****ing around with Skrach. He beats me like 90% of the time in friendlies and 100% of the time in tourneys!

Yeah I figured <_<

Since he's better than me and all <_<

 

[skrach8]

ryan ur break down in tourny stems from a deeper problem....retain what you know and use that isht...... no reason u cant place top five!

 

[Cosmo!]

my shield breaks more than everybody I play with

also I won a critical teams match by shieldbreaking a puff

chexr broke my shield with roy in a $5 money match then killed me with fully charged flare blade.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

my shield breaks more than everybody I play with

also I won a critical teams match by shieldbreaking a puff

chexr broke my shield with roy in a $5 money match then killed me with fully charged flare blade.

um how...?

 

[XIII ways to die]

im scared of marth. you can already guess i get marthed alot. by a baddA marth player at that

 

[adhdsoad]

This thread is the ****.


I like to hang on the edge while somebody is trying to recover, and do fancy shield breaker from ledge tricks.

I'd have to say the easiest setup is throwing someone on a platform, then poke their shields from below with shield breaker, guess right twice and it's a stock.

 

[Just Sexed]

Dark Sonic showed me the amazingness that is side-b to shield breaker.

Mad tricky and good for mindgames.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I do that all the time on accident, when I forget to switch to A, 'cause I'm too ******** to do the Dancing Blade stuff with B =(

 

[Metal Reeper]

I actually broke a sheild today, first time ever im gonna try jabbing, maybe they will roll, and i can jump>turn around sheild break them ;] i hope.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i broke my partner's shield in teams friendlies the other day. He was playing peach and getting 2v1ed, rolled towards me and i jumped with a neutral B to get them off and hit his shield (which was weak from getting pressured)

obviously i charged another one to punish myself for hurting my partner :D

 

[Dark Sonic]

Skrach broke Rock Crocks shield in tournament.

On video.

It was ****

vids soon

 

[_wzrd]

i actually broke a shield a couple days ago :D. keeping my friends peach on defense then two neutral b's almost sucessively. i actually did it on purpose too...but then i missed the tipper

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I broke cosmo's shield in doubles tournament, at the same time eighteenspikes (his partner) got edge hogged by my partner (bzoo). I got to charge a full neutral b to kill cosmo.