Celica
Ok, so from what I gather Celica uses a sword (which looks somewhat rapier-like) and can use magic. Which makes her sound pretty similar to Robin. But her sword would probably have more range than the swords used by Robin. In Fire Emblem Warriors, her moveset is based off Marth, which... I would hope is not the direction they'd go in Smash.
Either way, she Fire Emblem is already over-represented, getting three newcomers in Smash 4. Now we have Marth, Lucina, Roy, Ike, Robin and Corrin. Do we need a 7th representative? And if we get one, does it need to be one that's similar to one of the already existing characters? Especially given that we already have a Marth Echo and a Marth semi-clone? On the other hand, adding Celica as a Robin echo would be a plausible route, even if a bit boring. But that would make her an easy addition.
I understand that Fire Emblem fans are passionate and the series is doing just fine in sales, and with DLC and Virtual Console rereleases it might be doing more money for Nintendo than pure physical sales numbers suggest, but it's simply not a blockbuster series like Mario, Pokemon or Zelda, the only series with equal or larger rosters. Their fans will always want more, but they do have to consider that other series with less representation might please more fans (given that FE fans could hardly complain that they've been ignored). I would think that at this point, a FE character might need more than simply being the latest thing - they need to bring something new to Smash as well. You could tell that was on the Smash team's mind in Smash 4 - hence the two unique newcomers, Robin and Corrin, were significantly different from previous FE reps.
I'm not sure Celica brings enough new to the table.
Celica chances: 6%
Fire Emblem doesn't have great chances for a newcomer this time around, I'd think. It's plenty represented. But who knows, maybe Sakurai will see fit to give FE three more newcomers while leaving DK out in the cold. Again. But I'd be surprised. Also there are a fair number of other FE characters that could work.
Celica want: 1%
I don't really want to see any new Fire Emblem characters, but I especially don't want ones that use a sword. I know those games have spears and axes and bows and other things. It's not my fault the developers feel the need to make basically every prominent character use a sword.
Paper Mario
There's also a bit of a representation issue here. The Mario series has 8 characters + two spinoffs and two "associates" (if you consider the DK and Mario series linked, given that Mario and DK debuted in the same game). But there's no Mario RPG rep, and Paper Mario would likely have a significantly different moveset, utilizing some paper-based moves (like a paper airplane up-B) and a hammer.
He would, on the other hand, be a third version of Mario. I'd note that Paper Mario got a stage in Smash 4, so the series has been on Sakurai's radar at least somewhat.
Paper Mario chances: 14%
Ultimately, I think he's not terribly likely since while Mario is a mega-franchise and could justify having more reps (hence Daisy already), another version of Mario wouldn't likely be high on the priority list. But he would represent a different sub-series and would be a unique fighter.
Paper Mario want: 58%
I like some of the Paper Mario games, but I'd rather see some other series get some love. I would be fine with him though.
Nominations:
Tetra x5
But having multiple aspects confirmed (no cuts, ICs, Snake, Ridley) makes the leak seem more likely than not to be legit. But even if you think the leak is only 50% likely to be legit, add that with the chance the leak is made up but Simon's included anyway, his chances should be >50%... which would still be a pretty high rating for a 3rd party.
Some people might be going overboard, but the ratings on average definitely aren't people trusting the leak 100%.
Ok, so from what I gather Celica uses a sword (which looks somewhat rapier-like) and can use magic. Which makes her sound pretty similar to Robin. But her sword would probably have more range than the swords used by Robin. In Fire Emblem Warriors, her moveset is based off Marth, which... I would hope is not the direction they'd go in Smash.
Either way, she Fire Emblem is already over-represented, getting three newcomers in Smash 4. Now we have Marth, Lucina, Roy, Ike, Robin and Corrin. Do we need a 7th representative? And if we get one, does it need to be one that's similar to one of the already existing characters? Especially given that we already have a Marth Echo and a Marth semi-clone? On the other hand, adding Celica as a Robin echo would be a plausible route, even if a bit boring. But that would make her an easy addition.
I understand that Fire Emblem fans are passionate and the series is doing just fine in sales, and with DLC and Virtual Console rereleases it might be doing more money for Nintendo than pure physical sales numbers suggest, but it's simply not a blockbuster series like Mario, Pokemon or Zelda, the only series with equal or larger rosters. Their fans will always want more, but they do have to consider that other series with less representation might please more fans (given that FE fans could hardly complain that they've been ignored). I would think that at this point, a FE character might need more than simply being the latest thing - they need to bring something new to Smash as well. You could tell that was on the Smash team's mind in Smash 4 - hence the two unique newcomers, Robin and Corrin, were significantly different from previous FE reps.
I'm not sure Celica brings enough new to the table.
Celica chances: 6%
Fire Emblem doesn't have great chances for a newcomer this time around, I'd think. It's plenty represented. But who knows, maybe Sakurai will see fit to give FE three more newcomers while leaving DK out in the cold. Again. But I'd be surprised. Also there are a fair number of other FE characters that could work.
Celica want: 1%
I don't really want to see any new Fire Emblem characters, but I especially don't want ones that use a sword. I know those games have spears and axes and bows and other things. It's not my fault the developers feel the need to make basically every prominent character use a sword.
Paper Mario
There's also a bit of a representation issue here. The Mario series has 8 characters + two spinoffs and two "associates" (if you consider the DK and Mario series linked, given that Mario and DK debuted in the same game). But there's no Mario RPG rep, and Paper Mario would likely have a significantly different moveset, utilizing some paper-based moves (like a paper airplane up-B) and a hammer.
He would, on the other hand, be a third version of Mario. I'd note that Paper Mario got a stage in Smash 4, so the series has been on Sakurai's radar at least somewhat.
Paper Mario chances: 14%
Ultimately, I think he's not terribly likely since while Mario is a mega-franchise and could justify having more reps (hence Daisy already), another version of Mario wouldn't likely be high on the priority list. But he would represent a different sub-series and would be a unique fighter.
Paper Mario want: 58%
I like some of the Paper Mario games, but I'd rather see some other series get some love. I would be fine with him though.
Nominations:
Tetra x5
If people were trusting the leak 100%, Simon's chance rating would be 100%.Also, whilst a little off-topic (though mentioned often when suggesting Rayman's chances), why is everyone considering Simon Belmont the likeliest 3rd party? Is it just because of the supposed leak? We... we have learned our lesson about trusting those 100%, haven't we?
But having multiple aspects confirmed (no cuts, ICs, Snake, Ridley) makes the leak seem more likely than not to be legit. But even if you think the leak is only 50% likely to be legit, add that with the chance the leak is made up but Simon's included anyway, his chances should be >50%... which would still be a pretty high rating for a 3rd party.
Some people might be going overboard, but the ratings on average definitely aren't people trusting the leak 100%.
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