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Race's Garage Brawl Tournament V: Smashtoberfest

ROFL

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orly? i never mentioned snake or alex. im saying this guy is all about cheesing moves. id put money on beating his IC, but MK is dumb. just saying. btw eat a **** adam ;-)
yup welcome to tournaments. people have been about cheesing moves since the first ever fighting game man.

in melee there was marth chian grabs to tippers, falco laser, fox up throws/shines, ice climbers a button grab ****, peach down smash.

now theres any metaknight move, ice climbers grab **** (but with a different button combination now lol), ddd grab ****, and pretty much still falco's lasers lol. marth doesnt have any defining spammed move, but hes about cheesing his sword length.
 

ajsmith401

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yup welcome to tournaments. people have been about cheesing moves since the first ever fighting game man.

in melee there was marth chian grabs to tippers, falco laser, fox up throws/shines, ice climbers a button grab ****, peach down smash.

now theres any metaknight move, ice climbers grab **** (but with a different button combination now lol), ddd grab ****, and pretty much still falco's lasers lol. marth doesnt have any defining spammed move, but hes about cheesing his sword length.
ty, but i wasnt born yesterday. im just saying lame players dont deserve recognition. atleast we dont get stabbed for grabbing, like in street fighter tournies in long beach...lol...actually we should start doing that to cheeze spammers :-D
 

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lol no character johns.

everyone would get ***** if they didnt play their main. thats why you play them lol. (unless you main falcon or something, you could probly do better with a half *** top tier)
loL I disagree. my metaknight is almost as good as my peach and probably would be better with about two weeks practice, i just don't have fun using him. i'd rather place 7th and 9th and have fun than place 2nd and 3rd and not enjoy myself. Also the stuff that gays you in melee, when it gayed me I just thought "thats okay, they deserve it. they musta practiced in training mode for hours, so more power to them" but, thats not true in brawl, because you can do all the gay stuff without practice.
 

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agreed and thats why its not true that everyone would get ***** if they switched mains as rolling on the flor laughing said.

dont get me wrong im not doing it for "morals", just for fun.
 

Charoo

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edrees' metaknight is pretty amazing

on the other hand, edrees's peach is garbage. Step it up son.
 

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well...ive hated singles since melee so i guess i cant say much lol.

DOUBLES SON!!!

like i could never infinite chain grab someone to win. even for 1st place at the biggest prize money tournament ever.

but random ****ty people who are going to get 34th place will do it first round of a tournament.

if ive learned anything playing smash, people would murder babies to get 6th place at a tournament.
 

JTB

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I was going to show up, but Washington Mutual likes to freeze my bank account and not release my money when they say they are going to :(
 

Kouryuu

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loL I disagree. my metaknight is almost as good as my peach and probably would be better with about two weeks practice, i just don't have fun using him. i'd rather place 7th and 9th and have fun than place 2nd and 3rd and not enjoy myself. Also the stuff that gays you in melee, when it gayed me I just thought "thats okay, they deserve it. they musta practiced in training mode for hours, so more power to them" but, thats not true in brawl, because you can do all the gay stuff without practice.
But that's just you Edrees. Even if MK is pretty easy to pick up, a person is not always guaranteed to do better with MK than with their original main (except if you main Falcon like ROFL mentioned lol). I could play MK too but sometimes I find myself doing better with my Sheik or Peach or in rare cases, my Marth(who I don't use very often nowadays).

Look at Ryan. His MK is decent at best. If he used MK, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do nearly as well as he would with Wario. Though his Snake is another story.

@ Ajax

You should definitely give TKD the credit he deserves. The guy managed to analyze Alex's style during their set and turn things around completely. First he was getting ***** by Alex's Snake and in the later matches of the set, he started to mix it up and win.

And TKD didn't do anything cheesy from what I saw. He did abuse the tornado, which was annoying to watch but why should he stop if it was working? Not to mention, the tornado is easy to punish if whiffed or shielded. No johns.
 

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But that's just you Edrees. Even if MK is pretty easy to pick up, a person is not always guaranteed to do better with MK than with their original main (except if you main Falcon like ROFL mentioned lol). I could play MK too but sometimes I find myself doing better with my Sheik or Peach or in rare cases, my Marth(who I don't use very often nowadays).

Look at Ryan. His MK is decent at best. If he used MK, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't do nearly as well as he would with Wario. Though his Snake is another story.
I'm not saying its everyone, I'm saying there are several people like me. Not everyone, but half and half. And it's not just Metaknight, its several characters. The only comment I was taking issue with was that everyone chooses their main based only on their best chance to win and that alone.

TKD was only cheesy in doubles. In singles, he played extremely well and abused tornado far far less.He is quite a smart player. I still don't think tornado is **** in singles, but in doubles, its the best move in the game next to Game and Watches bucket :D
 

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The game knows no rules of “honor” or of “cheapness.” The game only knows winning and losing.
 

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tornado isn't that bad......but I did not think that tornado matter in stages but then i notice that FD was a bad choice vs mk as snake haha FD is to big and you really cant punish tornado in that stage since is so huge =( so tornado isn't so bad ( i have to say this because m2k doesn't want MK banned lol) But I'm glad i went snake it was fun just have to re-think the stages i choose.
 

Kouryuu

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Yeah =\ I thought you would've went Smashville or even Halberd. I'm surprised you went FD.
 

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For further reading on cheapness, whoring moves and using top tier characters, I recommend reading David Sirlin's Playing to Win, a book that explores mindsets and strategies used in high level competitive gaming. It uses Street Fighter for most of its examples, but I think most of it can easily be applied to Brawl.

You can read it here: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/
 

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FD is my fav stage =( can't help it but yeah halberd indeed

i'm glad futile still made it to the topsiesss he needs to start playing more so he can team with me =)
 

Kouryuu

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I can teach you all the basics and the necessary things you need to know to be good.

As far as being good with specific characters go, I can teach you Marth and Sheik like no other. I can also teach you Snake. Any other characters, your better off looking elsewhere.
 

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the daunting thing is learning the game to the point that you are prepared for all the feasible things someone could throw at you in a certain situation, with any character =/

and matchups and stages. that **** wasn't fun to learn even in melee

i wanna learn marth and sheik, especially sheik for obvious reasons, but metaknight is teh cheapest=)
 

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Playing brawl sheik and then playing melee sheik will make you sad =(

How deeply have you played each character in brawl?
 

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Everyone's too busy arguing. Where's da shoutouts!??

Race this tourney was three good. Mostly. 805 tank didnt get home til 7:30 this morning. I just woke up like half an hour ago lulz. thats called DEDICATION children.

SPOONtoberfest was awesome too rofl.

Connor - Lay off the wacky tobaccy you sound like an old woman who smokes 3 packs a day wen you laugh. And stay away from my toes.

Jayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 6666666666666666 - I'll share a bed with you anytime ;). No homo

Brenden/Leon - Put your ****ing pants on. And thanks for drivin. In n Out is ****ing god

Embrace the 12 - Too cool as always. You rock that tiny piano!

Plan 9 - I live in the same town as you you dont get a shoutout.

Sherigami - you're a pretty cool kid. You go to denny's with us and doesnt afraid of anything. Oh and EARMUFFS!

Nestor - You ditched us you homo. Oh well good seeing you again.

DSF - Too good laughing at everyone freaking out over people's matches. Oh and playing the Geetar.

Awex - Ima have some more riddles for you next time lulz.

Ajax - Dude. STOP. BEING. AMAZING. your matches give me heart attacks. Oh and Semma gets a shoutout too for not
going insane the whole tourney lol.

Nezumi - Always a pleasure. Oh and kitty in a box wtf lol. Sorry you didnt get to see me and romeo throw down on
some dragonforce.

Romeo and Mango- Holy **** so fun rockin out with you guys. Justice is *****! Sorry I didnt make it to Pat's house. We were all exausted. i really wanna play rock band again with you guys sometime though. Oh and Romeo stop showing off on real guitar.

Kira/ Rina Chan - Nice MCing. You have a good voice. "THE GREAT LEON HAS A BIG **** TO TV 12. BIG ****..TV 12"

Futile - Youuuuuu goooottttt thiiiisssss

Big Blitz - You da man.

CHAMP - Rocks my socks.

Edrees - You're toooooo cooool. Even if your guitar does suck. and if you suck at seeding.

Pat - Sorry I couldnt make it to your house :(

Guy taking pictures - I'M BLIIIIIIND

NEEEEAAAALLLL - All is SHOOOORRRYYUUUKEN!

Neighborhood P - Dude wtf was up with that timing. I just HAPPENED to be walking out when you were looking for
someone named jacob. Confused the **** out of me lol.

Vicegrip - OUR RIVALRY SHALL GO ON!!!!!!!!!

Psycho ****** - I never get to talk to you that much but you're a cool guy. And ****ing weird. lol


Ok I THINK i got everyone but i talked to a ton of people yesterday. If i forgot you it just means you arent important lol j/k.

Edit - DUDE WHEN WILL THOSE PICS BE UP AND WHERE

SPOONTOBERFEST 09 HERE I COME!
 

Race

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wow I just woke up. . ugh. . .I'm still tired as hell

Thanks for coming down and enjoing the tourney guys. Good Stuff

I'll be posting up the details of my next tourney (In december) soon . . . now to think up of a name
 
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