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Boofer

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Only one returning pokemon? I hope it's Mewtwo, but I wanted both :urg:
So is this convo legit?
Honestly, I hope it's Mewtwo, but it's almost definitely Jigglypuff...There's no reason for Jiggs to leave. She's pretty much a brawl icon now. Ehhh....This is not good. Mewtwo's my favorite pokemon, and I was looking forward to an improved moveset.
 

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yeah. Mewtwo is one of the characters in Smash I have in my heart. if Geno didn't make it, Mewtwo would be sort of a back up but now, I really, really hope it's Jigglypuff who's getting the boot but why would she?
 

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yeah. Mewtwo is one of the characters in Smash I have in my heart. if Geno didn't make it, Mewtwo would be sort of a back up but now, I really, really hope it's Jigglypuff who's getting the boot but why would she?
Unfortunately for Mewtwo fans, it is rumored that Jigglypuff will be returning. In a interview with David Hayter, the voice actor for Solid Snake, he said the one character he wanted to beat up the most was Jigglypuff.

However, nothing is written in stone, and Serebii could either be lying or be getting faulty information. I hope you Mewtwo fans will be celebrating when the roster is revealed instead of despairing.
 

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Give me reason why Mewtwo is less important to Nintendo than a 4th gen wannabe, and then we'll talk, as there is no reason to even consider taking Mewtwo out.
 

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I call BS on this so called AIM conversation.

1. After the first fake convo, Serebii stated he never uses AIM.

2. Reading his posts here, I seriously doubt Serebii is gonna say anything about what he knows. I don't think he'll even HINT at anything.

3. The person who posted that convo registered JUST to post it.

Face it, Serebii's not gonna talk. (He HAS stated that he never said Lucario is replacing Mewtwo, but he won't confirm or deny whether it's actually true or not.):(
 

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^OK, so where did that convo come from? The poster didn't say where he got it from.
 

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Melee's roster was leaked 20 days before its Japanese-release, so it would not be odd for a leak to happen soon. Unfortunately, I expect a lot of people to pop up claiming to be insiders, which may make the real one get ignored. Do I have to post the story of Melee's roster leak again?
Wow, never heard that. Yea, can someone post the story of melee's roster leak?:)
 

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Ah, yes the Melee-roster-speculation days. If you thought the Nook Wars, you should have seen the Toad Wars and the Trophy Wars. However, the most infamous war was the Leak War.

Melee's roster was beginning to get leaked way back in August, with the first character being confirmed being Ganondorf (I think via an interview), next was Luigi who was confirmed in an interview I think in September. There was much speculation as to whether Jigglypuff would be cut. Jigglypuff was not exactly popular among casual players, and many thought her to be a joke. However, around mid-October, there was a person claiming to know the entire roster. Many people accused him of being a fraud, a liar, etc. He confirmed that Ganondorf and Luigi were indeed hidden characters (some people said that the interviews meant nothing) and that Jigglypuff would be returning as a playable character. He also deconfirmed Wolf as a playable character. The "leaker" then said that he would not reveal the full-roster until a day before Melee's Japanese release. People continually called him a liar and a fake. So he instead decided to submit his story about knowledge regarding the Melee to some GameCube fansite.

This article appeared November 1st, about twenty days before Melee's Japanese release. People were shocked at what the contents were. Luigi, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and Falco were all believable (as well as Marth for the few people that actually knew him). However, what made the list seem like a complete and utter joke was the inclusion of Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Pichu. Mr. Game & Watch also made little sense to many people at the time. Also, many people confused Roy for Roy Koopa from the Mario series. Also, was the fact that more than half of the hidden characters were clones. Many people were upset to discover that Ganondorf was a Falcon clone. The vast majority of Melee forum goers were angry over this and immediately dismissed this as being fake, however, there were a few believers, much like how people who believe Ness is returning are being squashed right now.

This website immediately apologized for the article after the enormous backlash they received from it saying that the information being supplied to them could be very well be wrong. With this, many Smash fans sighed with relief knowing that the nightmare roster was a fake. However, the nightmare would soon resurface in a few weeks. About a week prior to Melee's release, screenshots of the demon roster started floating around the internet. Pictures of Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link in battle were also around. Many of us thought somebody had too much time on their hands, and was doing this for kicks. There was also the point that Melee's clone boxes were misaligned, surely Sakurai's team would not do a sloppy job on the character selection screen. It was also pointed out that there were two empty space on the screen. A lot of people dismissed these screens as being an elaborate fake.

However, when people actually got their hands on Melee and confirmed the worst, many of the naysayers reluctantly accepted that the leaked roster was the real deal. Many people cursed, screamed, saying that they would boycott Melee and threatened Nintendo and HAL for this abomination of a roster. However, when Melee was released many people angers were put aside by how great Melee was.


Here is my personal experience regarding when the Melee roster leaked:

Characters that I liked were Luigi (I wanted him to return), Jigglypuff (ditto), Mewtwo (one of my favorite Pokemon back then), Ganondorf, Falco, and Mr. Game & Watch (I am a big fan of the Game & Watch games).

Characters that I was unsure about were Marth, because I was very unfamiliar with the Fire Emblem series back then. I was also very surprised by the inclusion of a Game & Watch character, but it was awesome nevertheless.

However, there were characters on it that definitely made me think "lol, this roster is fake." They were Dr. Mario (why add another version of Mario and not Wario), Pichu (why not Raichu), Young Link, and Roy. Roy was a funny one. I originally though Roy was actually Roy Koopa and I was liked, "huh, they decided to put Roy Koopa in as a playable character, why did they choose him over the other Koopalings." Then the leaker said that he was actually part of the same series as Marth, Fire Emblem. This was the clincher for many, for there was no known character in the Fire Emblem games that went by the name of Roy at that point in time.

Since so many people flamed the site that leaked the list as being so absurd and nonsensical, they even went as far as to apologize, but said not to be surprised come the Japanese launch of Melee. Many people, including myself, rested easy knowing that abomination of a character list was probably just a hoax for a site to get more hits. However, there were a few that still believed.

Come November 22, 2001, the roster was definitely proven true. The screenshots I saw of Dr. Mario and Pichu were too bizarre to be true, it just couldn't be true, and that Ganondorf was nothing more than a clone of Captain Falcon. Captain Falcon! I was comforted by the fact that somebody pointed out that six of the character boxes were misaligned (the clone boxes), and that there were two empty spots on the screen. Sakurai's team surely would not make a sloppy character selection, and especially not leave two empty places on the screen. Most of us were wrong yet again when videos were finally posted of these characters. Some people continued to deny this, however, many (such as myself) accepted the harsh reality and tried to look at the brighter side of things. However, the character roster did not matter, for Melee was much, much more awesome than I could possibly imagine.

As you can see, I would not be surprised if a similar circumstance happens regarding Brawl's roster. It is also the reason why I am treating many people who claim to have inside information cautiously instead of immediately labeling him or her a liar. Hopefully, the Brawl roster leak won't get as ugly as the Melee one did.
 

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thats the point though i posted it to only show yall it cause i thought yall might be intrested. i actually saw it on the smyn topic. wow so thats the whole story is it .... i can see y you would look closly on every suspision you don't want a repeat of the past. lol
 

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Ah, yes the Melee-roster-speculation days. If you thought the Nook Wars, you should have seen the Toad Wars and the Trophy Wars. However, the most infamous war was the Leak War.

Melee's roster was beginning to get leaked way back in August, with the first character being confirmed being Ganondorf (I think via an interview), next was Luigi who was confirmed in an interview I think in September. There was much speculation as to whether Jigglypuff would be cut. Jigglypuff was not exactly popular among casual players, and many thought her to be a joke. However, around mid-October, there was a person claiming to know the entire roster. Many people accused him of being a fraud, a liar, etc. He confirmed that Ganondorf and Luigi were indeed hidden characters (some people said that the interviews meant nothing) and that Jigglypuff would be returning as a playable character. He also deconfirmed Wolf as a playable character. The "leaker" then said that he would not reveal the full-roster until a day before Melee's Japanese release. People continually called him a liar and a fake. So he instead decided to submit his story about knowledge regarding the Melee to some GameCube fansite.

This article appeared November 1st, about twenty days before Melee's Japanese release. People were shocked at what the contents were. Luigi, Ganondorf, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and Falco were all believable (as well as Marth for the few people that actually knew him). However, what made the list seem like a complete and utter joke was the inclusion of Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Pichu. Mr. Game & Watch also made little sense to many people at the time. Also, many people confused Roy for Roy Koopa from the Mario series. Also, was the fact that more than half of the hidden characters were clones. Many people were upset to discover that Ganondorf was a Falcon clone. The vast majority of Melee forum goers were angry over this and immediately dismissed this as being fake, however, there were a few believers, much like how people who believe Ness is returning are being squashed right now.

This website immediately apologized for the article after the enormous backlash they received from it saying that the information being supplied to them could be very well be wrong. With this, many Smash fans sighed with relief knowing that the nightmare roster was a fake. However, the nightmare would soon resurface in a few weeks. About a week prior to Melee's release, screenshots of the demon roster started floating around the internet. Pictures of Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link in battle were also around. Many of us thought somebody had too much time on their hands, and was doing this for kicks. There was also the point that Melee's clone boxes were misaligned, surely Sakurai's team would not do a sloppy job on the character selection screen. It was also pointed out that there were two empty space on the screen. A lot of people dismissed these screens as being an elaborate fake.

However, when people actually got their hands on Melee and confirmed the worst, many of the naysayers reluctantly accepted that the leaked roster was the real deal. Many people cursed, screamed, saying that they would boycott Melee and threatened Nintendo and HAL for this abomination of a roster. However, when Melee was released many people angers were put aside by how great Melee was.


Here is my personal experience regarding when the Melee roster leaked:

Characters that I liked were Luigi (I wanted him to return), Jigglypuff (ditto), Mewtwo (one of my favorite Pokemon back then), Ganondorf, Falco, and Mr. Game & Watch (I am a big fan of the Game & Watch games).

Characters that I was unsure about were Marth, because I was very unfamiliar with the Fire Emblem series back then. I was also very surprised by the inclusion of a Game & Watch character, but it was awesome nevertheless.

However, there were characters on it that definitely made me think "lol, this roster is fake." They were Dr. Mario (why add another version of Mario and not Wario), Pichu (why not Raichu), Young Link, and Roy. Roy was a funny one. I originally though Roy was actually Roy Koopa and I was liked, "huh, they decided to put Roy Koopa in as a playable character, why did they choose him over the other Koopalings." Then the leaker said that he was actually part of the same series as Marth, Fire Emblem. This was the clincher for many, for there was no known character in the Fire Emblem games that went by the name of Roy at that point in time.

Since so many people flamed the site that leaked the list as being so absurd and nonsensical, they even went as far as to apologize, but said not to be surprised come the Japanese launch of Melee. Many people, including myself, rested easy knowing that abomination of a character list was probably just a hoax for a site to get more hits. However, there were a few that still believed.

Come November 22, 2001, the roster was definitely proven true. The screenshots I saw of Dr. Mario and Pichu were too bizarre to be true, it just couldn't be true, and that Ganondorf was nothing more than a clone of Captain Falcon. Captain Falcon! I was comforted by the fact that somebody pointed out that six of the character boxes were misaligned (the clone boxes), and that there were two empty spots on the screen. Sakurai's team surely would not make a sloppy character selection, and especially not leave two empty places on the screen. Most of us were wrong yet again when videos were finally posted of these characters. Some people continued to deny this, however, many (such as myself) accepted the harsh reality and tried to look at the brighter side of things. However, the character roster did not matter, for Melee was much, much more awesome than I could possibly imagine.

As you can see, I would not be surprised if a similar circumstance happens regarding Brawl's roster. It is also the reason why I am treating many people who claim to have inside information cautiously instead of immediately labeling him or her a liar. Hopefully, the Brawl roster leak won't get as ugly as the Melee one did.
Wow. . . And to think, at that time of my life I only used the net to look up pokemon info. Neither I nor my friend used it to look for leaks.

Thanks for the story! I hope we get a leak that soon. . . .Im sure we are going to get tons of fakes come Jan but Im looking out for them.
 

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Think of it this way: if we choose to ignore Sakurai's quote about "no clones," it's very possible that Ness, Falco, and Ganon may return. That's also assuming Sakurai was being facetious with his "Ima made" post....

Coupled with Serebii's claim that Lucario is in Brawl, I think this guy could be reliable, though at this point I think it's best to be skeptical.
 

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This is absolutely scary. ****IT NESS!!! I'm afraid I have to believe it due to the fact that he "predicted" Dragoon, possibly the most complicated item in the game. But is that it? That's all the information? What about Krystal? Ridley? Bowser Jr? How do we know they'll be in? I mean, Krystal is like, the most likely character at this time who isn't Luigi. And also Jigglypuff wasn't mentioned, despite being leaked in an interview. Also, I am really glad Lucario is in, but replacing Mewtwo...? They can't possibly share a moveset. Lucario's too different.
 

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Based on his wording, I think ChaosZero's friend gave him info on Stage Builder first in addition to all this other info, and after Stage Builder was confirmed, he deemed it prudent to relay the rest of the info. It's just so crazy that he'd be able to predict the exact process of the Dragoon. From the videos I've seen, the Dragoon is jut a really fast vehicle, there are no crosshairs or destructive abilities present.

My prediction is that Mewtwo will be an SSE boss considering he's been a villain throughout the Pokemon anime,much like Rayquaza. Lucario has been much more prominent in recent years, whereas Mewtwo hasn't appeared in a main Pokemon game for the past four years.
 

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Sakurai's "quote" about no-clones also said no Ice Climbers in the same breath.


Also; Neat story on the history of Smash Brothers leaks. However, looking at the community, if and when there were a leak, it would get that ugly relatively quickly.
 

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Wow Chronobound, thanks for the story! Very interesting, I (and Im sure others) have definitely been wanting an in-depth look into the wait for Melee. And I am sure the same will happen with Brawl sadly. Theres gonna be a lot of disappointment with the roster I think...
 

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Sakurai's "quote" about no-clones also said no Ice Climbers in the same breath.
I thought this was the quote (as translated by SamuraiPanda):

"But, although you'll see characters from the last game, this time, on a significant scale, they will be remade."

The link he provided for the original Japanese text no longer exists, so I can't read it.
 

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The three supposed insiders (NyaseNya, Serebii, and ChaosZero) all claimed different things. However, there are some overlapping similarities to what they are saying.

NyaseNya said:
- Captain Olimar was playable.
- Toon Link (Wind Waker Link) is playable.
- Ness is returning as a playable character.
- Mr. Game & Watch is returning as a playable character.
- There are 35 characters in Brawl (however, it is not known whether she was including transformations in this number).
- Mega Man is not a playable character.
- The North American version of Brawl would have another delay.

Serebii said:
- Not all the characters that were cut from Melee were clones.
- Lucario is in, and is replacing Mewtwo. (a top moderator from his site said that she was told this, however, Serebii has recently denied this).

ChaosZero has said:
- Wolf is in (however, I am not sure whether he is referring to him being a playable character).
- Ness is returning as a playable character.
- Ganondorf is returning as a playable character.
- Falco is returning as a playable character.
- Captain Falcon is returning as a playable character.
- Sheik is returning as a playable character, and is still a transformation of Zelda.
- Lucario is in as a playable character, but will be replacing Mewtwo.
- Exactly predicted the Dragoon item.

Some of NyasaNyas's statements might be coming true, such as the Mega Man not being in Brawl, and another delay for the North American version of Brawl. ChaosZero's statement of Dragoon, possibly the hardest thing to predict, came true.

Both ChaosZero and Serebii don't wish to talk about their inside information they claim to have. NyaseNya has not logged in for weeks, and her Personal Message box is full preventing me to ask her any questions about her information. She has also not posted in nearly a month, preventing me from telling her to clear away some of her personal messages.

This leaves us being stuck with the information that they initially unveiled and nothing else. The winners if this inside information proves to be true are the Ness, Lucario, Captain Olimar, and Wind Waker Link fans. However, the losers would be Mewtwo and Mega Man fans, as well as people hoping for a huge roster (35+). Whether these people are telling the truth or good liars/prediction makers, remains to be determined. However, is this is all true, expect the Brawl unveil to possibly being uglier than the Melee leak. If all these people are to be believed, there are only five spots in the roster that are unknown.
 

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If 35 is the number...then we got...

1. Mario
2. Link
3. Kirby
4. Pikachu
5. Fox
6. Samus (Zamus)
7. Zelda (Shiek)
8. Bowser
9. D.K.
10. Yoshi
11. Peach
12. Ice Climbers
13. Pit
14. Wario
15 Ike
16. Pokemon Trainer (Squirlte/Ivysaur/Charizard)
17. Diddy Kong
18. Meta Knight
19. Snake
20. Lucas
21. Sonic
22. King Dedede.

Right Now...we got 22. This is the number of SELECTABLE characters. (i.e. characters that have icons...Zamus, Shiek, the Pokemon are tranformations, and are selected through the same icon.)
Now if the transformers count in the total....then we lose 4 slots

Now if all the rumors are too be believed then some more are.

23. Wolf
24. Olimar
25. Jigglypuff
26. Ness
27. Falco
28. Captain Falcon.
29. Wind Waker Link
30. Lucario

So now we got Five left. Here are my picks/guesses.

31. Ridley
32. Krystal
33. Luigi
34. Mr. Game & Watch
35. ???

Wow....I just realized that a 35 character roster is cool with me.
 

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If 35 is the number...then we got...

1. Mario
2. Link
3. Kirby
4. Pikachu
5. Fox
6. Samus (Zamus)
7. Zelda (Shiek)
8. Bowser
9. D.K.
10. Yoshi
11. Peach
12. Ice Climbers
13. Pit
14. Wario
15 Ike
16. Pokemon Trainer (Squirlte/Ivysaur/Charizard)
17. Diddy Kong
18. Meta Knight
19. Snake
20. Lucas
21. Sonic
22. King Dedede.

Right Now...we got 22. This is the number of SELECTABLE characters. (i.e. characters that have icons...Zamus, Shiek, the Pokemon are tranformations, and are selected through the same icon.)
Now if the transformers count in the total....then we lose 4 slots

Now if all the rumors are too be believed then some more are.

23. Wolf
24. Olimar
25. Jigglypuff
26. Ness
27. Falco
28. Captain Falcon.
29. Wind Waker Link
30. Lucario

So now we got Five left. Here are my picks/guesses.

31. Ridley
32. Krystal
33. Luigi
34. Mr. Game & Watch
35. ???

Wow....I just realized that a 35 character roster is cool with me.


Actually the five remaining ones would probably be this:

1. Wolf or Krystal
2. Luigi
3. Jigglypuff
4. A second Fire Emblem character (Marth, Eliwood, or Micaiah)
5. Either Ray or Isaac, A WTF Final character, or another Metroid or Mario character (really this is the one that I am entirely unsure about).
 

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Though these lists seem plausible, does anyone else think they look like they're lacking some "umph?" It seems like something's missing, like a wtf character. Even though I predicted a roster of 35, realistically I think they could have added at least a few more...When I find myself making character lists, I usually end up in the low 40's, and that's whilst being realistic... I hope she's wrong about 35, and that we have at least a couple more.
 

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Actually the five remaining ones would probably be this:

1. Wolf or Krystal
2. Luigi
3. Jigglypuff
4. A second Fire Emblem character (Marth, Eliwood, or Micaiah)
5. Either Ray or Isaac, A WTF Final character, or another Metroid or Mario character (really this is the one that I am entirely unsure about).
Well Wolf is already on there because that's what one "prophet" said...

For the purposes of that roster, I'm taking what they say as fact...(this is all hypothetical)

Also I like...just made a thread (my first thread!...be gentle) about this in the Brawl Character sections.

I was hoping, since it was your prophet post that inspired me that you should check it out.
 

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Though these lists seem plausible, does anyone else think they look like they're lacking some "umph?" It seems like something's missing, like a wtf character. Even though I predicted a roster of 35, realistically I think they could have added at least a few more...When I find myself making character lists, I usually end up in the low 40's, and that's whilst being realistic... I hope she's wrong about 35, and that we have at least a couple more.
I totally agree.
 

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Too bad Nya eventually said that all of what he said wasn't true and were just guesses/lies. Much like BlueWave he (just because there's really no way to tell a gender on the internet nor can you really go with avatars as a sign) he eventually caved in and said all of what he said were basically guesses. And, that was true considering the outlandish things he made topics for.

That aside, it looks to me Lucario is replacing Mewtwo which I don't mind as long as Lucario is pretty good. I mean, Mewtwo was kinda balls in Melee and I'd hate for him to be a bad character again than not appear at all. Deny it as much as you so choose to, but, he is going to be replaced or at least, not be on the roster.

Because of Serebii (if the convo holds true) Chaos Zero is just another step higher on credibility.
 

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If this is the final roster, I'll eat this hat
*holds hat*

@ guy above me: What about giving Mewtwo buffs or changing his moveset?
Mewtwo shouldn't be removed, especially for Lucario(he needs his own moveset)
 

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Too bad Nya eventually said that all of what he said wasn't true and were just guesses/lies. Much like BlueWave he (just because there's really no way to tell a gender on the internet nor can you really go with avatars as a sign) he eventually caved in and said all of what he said were basically guesses. And, that was true considering the outlandish things he made topics for.
Are you sure? When did they say this? Do you have a link?
 

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@ guy above me: What about giving Mewtwo buffs or changing his moveset?
Mewtwo shouldn't be removed, especially for Lucario(he needs his own moveset)
Chances are if Sakurai would go this far to remove Mewtwo completely from the roster would usually mean two things: 1) Couldn't fit him (much like the ATs) or 2) Couldn't figure out a way to make him any better without trying to completely rebuild him. Honestly, I don't think he could receive many buffs aside from his melee moves being faster, but, Mewtwo is sort of meant to be slightly slow and powerful (despite his stats in the games).

The thing I find funny the most though is that both Lucario and Mewtwo had a movie with Mew so, in a way, it makes sense that Lucario replaces him (in this respect, not in any other). While, Mewtwo would be nice to have again, I could see Sakurai wanting to remove him for someone more popular now. A lot of people like Lucario which is also how Pikachu and Jigglypuff were chosen as characters in the first game. Had it not been for the anime (to some extent) these characters wouldn't be as nearly as popular as they are and you'd be seeing Pokemon like Hitmonlee or something of the like as a playable with Mewtwo still on the roster. But, because popularity outweighs possible buffs and/or new move set I honestly can't see how Mewtwo will get in especially, over Jigglypuff who is an original.

It's definitely popularity though when it comes to Pokemon and because Sakurai follows very closely to who's popular in a certain community (ala Marth, Lucas) I can't see why Lucario wouldn't be in the game much less, replacing the probably least popular Pokemon in Japan compared to Lucario's rise to fame (ONLY compared to Lucario, not any other Pokemon).
 

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The only guy I have been impressed with is the one who predicted Dragoon. Wait, he did say something stupid like "NO FALCO" or "ONLY 35 CHARACTERS!" Like most Brawl "prophets" have said, proving them wrong from the get go. Wolf? I mean if Wolf is playable, the roster had better be huge. Honestly, Sakurai would not do that to us. Give us a roster of only 35. Increase the melee roster only by 10?!
 

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While Lucario replacing Mewtwo makes my childhood cry a bit (more or less because I only really care about the first two generations of Pokemon), granted the rest of this guy's stuff is right, then I'm more then content, especially with Ness. Other than Wolf. I choose to interpret that vague 'He's in the game' comment to mean that he's only an AT or something... I want Krystal instead, she's faaar more likely and eh... Well, Wolf would be cool if we get 4 SF reps, but we probably won't. I wouldn't mind a bit if it did though, but you'd need characters like Ridley and K. Rool to balance everything out.
 
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