HarryTheChin
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That is hard to believe. But it seems it could be possible. I mean they aren't insane predictions.
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there not insane. most of the stuff, like Ganondorf returning and Zelda being able to turn into Sheik, is pretty much a given to begin with, and isn't that hard to say with a strait face. he probably said those things because the chances of them being true are so great that he would look better when they are announced. the Wolf thing was probably said to provoke Krystal fans, as was the Mewtwo thing (because theres NO WAY that Mewtwo is leaving. thats a fact.) and I'm not even going to go into the Ness part, because it's obvious that he made that part up.That is hard to believe. But it seems it could be possible. I mean they aren't insane predictions.
Ok, first of all, Lucario<<<<<<<<Mewtwo.I disagree with everything there.
LUCAS is the Ness clone.
Lucario<Mewtwo
Krystal over Wolf, and maybe Falco if he's still a clone.
This is still only a rumor, Sakurai hasn't confirmed any of this.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/item14.htmlThis is still only a rumor, Sakurai hasn't confirmed any of this.
Lucas took his famed bat, I think Ness is really out unlees they are clones, and from what it seems, clones have been eliminatedIt's real. Ness is back. So there.
..... Mewtwo? Where are you?
If anything Lucario took Pichu's placeThis HAS to be a fake! Mewtwo can't be replaced by Lucario! I want him in but not taking Mewtwo out!
Correct. Nya "predicted" everything around Sonic's reveal. From him being shown in a trailer at that event to him being updated on the site that night and I think he also said brawl would be at e 4 all and Sonic would be a PC there.Ugh just because he gets one thing right doesn't mean he's a prophet. He's no better than Nya.
All the proof you need right thereCorrect. Nya "predicted" everything around Sonic's reveal. From him being shown in a trailer at that event to him being updated on the site that night and I think he also said brawl would be at e 4 all and Sonic would be a PC there.
At the time it seemed like a "prophet" level prediction because it was soo detailed and things happened exactly as he said. But soon after it became clear that it was all some lucky guesses and after that none of his other predictions came true such as MM being confirmed on his B-Day and Olmar being a new-comer for Dec.
The Dragoon item works exactly like it does in the Kirby game so I wouldn't put it past someone to guess it would do this in brawl. Really, I wont believe someone just cause they did one detailed prediction that came true.
The man who made the prediction, if it actually was him, isn't even sure himself. He's got some credit, I suppose, but just goes to show nothing is certain.ChaosZero said:Uh. Hi everyone. I'm your "prophet."
I made that post a long time ago. Not only did I get modded....TWICE....since I contested my post that (by the way, not only did not break any "trolling" rules," was CORRECT (so far)" I lost the ability to contest any of my moderations for like the next 3 months or something.
Here was my post, which was upheld by the admin.
Since I was modded, it has stayed in "my deleted posts."
"Last time I made this topic, I was marked for moderation by people who were angry that I was relaying information?
Yeah, doesn't make sense right? Well uh, that's the point of a message board. So here it is again.
This is info I heard from a credible source in MY OPINION. I do not claim responsibility if it's wrong, and aim to offend no one. You may believe it if you want, or discard it as a lie or rubbish or speculation or bad information or whatever. The information isn't phenomenal, but it's what it is. And some people may appreciate it.
I'm no prophet, and I'm no troll.
If you don't like that I'm giving this info away without giving the name, social security number, and resume of the person who gave it to me, along with movies, pictures, and a signature from Sakurai -
then simply cease reading and go back and read another topic. Thank you for your cooperation:
I was told there was a stage creator before there was one. So far, this news has been correct. So check this out... According to my source: (THIS IS SIMPLY RUMOR AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I HAVE NO PROOF)
Wolf is in the game.
Falco is returning.
Ganondorf is returning.
Captain Falcon is returning.
Lucario is taking Mewtwo's Place. (place being a vague term, I don't know what exactly it means)
Ness is returning.
Zelda can turn into Sheik.
And there are these items called "Dragoon Parts" I did some research and apparently they're from Kirby's Air Ride. Supposedly, if you collect all three parts you can do some devastating move where you control a crosshair and do a crazy rush or something.
Oh and Final Destination is back.
That's all I have, and possibly all I can get. Since it isn't confirmed, it's simply rumor. I REPEAT, I AM NOT STATING THIS AS FACT.
I hope this makes someone happy, cuz it's all I got."
Well. Seems the guy was right. Maybe you shouldn't be so angry when a guy politely relays a rumor he heard. I honestly don't even care any more. I'm not saying anything more. Go ahead and think the rest of my stuff was made up and this was the only true fact.
I don't care.
Time will prove everything. In two months we'll all have the game and everyone can stop whining.
Well it could be considered a super attack seeing as how it was described in the updateStop lying. The Dragoon is made of three pieces in KAR, and that's where the similarity ends. No crosshairs or super-attacks (infact the Hydra is stronger.)
Lucas DID NOT take Ness's bat. It was a stickLucas took his famed bat, I think Ness is really out unlees they are clones, and from what it seems, clones have been eliminated
His source is his imaginary friend, lol JKChaosZero said:Uh. Hi everyone. I'm your "prophet."
I made that post a long time ago. Not only did I get modded....TWICE....since I contested my post that (by the way, not only did not break any "trolling" rules," was CORRECT (so far)" I lost the ability to contest any of my moderations for like the next 3 months or something.
Here was my post, which was upheld by the admin.
Since I was modded, it has stayed in "my deleted posts."
"Last time I made this topic, I was marked for moderation by people who were angry that I was relaying information?
Yeah, doesn't make sense right? Well uh, that's the point of a message board. So here it is again.
This is info I heard from a credible source in MY OPINION. I do not claim responsibility if it's wrong, and aim to offend no one. You may believe it if you want, or discard it as a lie or rubbish or speculation or bad information or whatever. The information isn't phenomenal, but it's what it is. And some people may appreciate it.
I'm no prophet, and I'm no troll.
If you don't like that I'm giving this info away without giving the name, social security number, and resume of the person who gave it to me, along with movies, pictures, and a signature from Sakurai -
then simply cease reading and go back and read another topic. Thank you for your cooperation:
I was told there was a stage creator before there was one. So far, this news has been correct. So check this out... According to my source: (THIS IS SIMPLY RUMOR AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I HAVE NO PROOF)
Wolf is in the game.
Falco is returning.
Ganondorf is returning.
Captain Falcon is returning.
Lucario is taking Mewtwo's Place. (place being a vague term, I don't know what exactly it means)
Ness is returning.
Zelda can turn into Sheik.
And there are these items called "Dragoon Parts" I did some research and apparently they're from Kirby's Air Ride. Supposedly, if you collect all three parts you can do some devastating move where you control a crosshair and do a crazy rush or something.
Oh and Final Destination is back.
That's all I have, and possibly all I can get. Since it isn't confirmed, it's simply rumor. I REPEAT, I AM NOT STATING THIS AS FACT.
I hope this makes someone happy, cuz it's all I got."
Well. Seems the guy was right. Maybe you shouldn't be so angry when a guy politely relays a rumor he heard. I honestly don't even care any more. I'm not saying anything more. Go ahead and think the rest of my stuff was made up and this was the only true fact.
I don't care.
Time will prove everything. In two months we'll all have the game and everyone can stop whining.
How do you know the leaf is just on the abt, or it could be attached to the enimie, or it could be a itemLucas DID NOT take Ness's bat. It was a stick
Yeah, I'm saying anyone could have researched an item from a game, and said it would be in, it just happend this guy was lucky enough to pick the right oneThe way I see it, he DOES have insider info. However, the Dragoon is all the info he was given. He added the obvious things (CF returning, Final Destination) to add even more to his credibility, and added some lies (Ness returning, Wolf playable, although that might be true) because people would believe him. The only prediction I'm not sure of is Lucario replacing Mewtwo. He could just be taking that fact from Serebii of serebii.net, whom has been quoted saying that (Keep in mind Serebii DOES get insider info)
So I'm not believing him until all of his 'predictions' come true.
Here is a more clear picture. The leaf is part of the stick/branch.How do you know the leaf is just on the abt, or it could be attached to the enimie, or it could be a item
Oh, that does look like a branch, thanks for clearing that up.Here is a more clear picture. The leaf is part of the stick/branch.
It's the same **** move. Who cares if it looks slightly different?Here is a more clear picture. The leaf is part of the stick/branch.
He didn't predict the stage builder, he predicted the Dragoon at the time of the stage builder.It seems that people are generally considering their own theories as facts, and as a result disregarding the opinions of others as dumb.
It looks like everyone has this idea that there are "no clones". Really, has that been *explicitly* said anywhere by any developer? If not, then its mostly people WANTING something to be true SO BAD, that they accept it as a reality.
Ness deconfirmed? Again- unless it comes out and says "Ness will not be in brawl" we all should stop playing language games to infer one way or another. People in general are over-emphasizing EVERYTHING. "Oh, he put a comma there, that means there is a pause. Usually, that means a breath should be taken.... Sakurai was holding his breath! Therefore, something incredible must be announced, or meant by this otherwise innocent update!"
Thirdly- if a guy predicted a stage-builder & this dragoon thing... it seems more than luck. If it is luck, I want him picking my lotto numbers.
"Stage builder was a shoe in"- yes, in retrospect it was. But, I remember countless "what do you want in Brawl" threads that had a stage builder as a desired option.
Same goes for characters; I've seen tons of people get flamed in the early goings of Brawl development for saying Sonic would be in, or ANY third party character. Funny how that turned out, huh?
So in essence- don't be all like "This isn't true, it can't be" just because it comes from a source OTHER than *your own* infinite wealth of knowledge and deductive reasoning, or because you don't WANT it to be true; either because you are against the aforementioned postulated ideas, or have voiced your opinion so vehemently to the contrary that you don't want to eat crow.
Nothing that was mentioned is implausible, and by the virtue the guy has predicted two things.... one of which NO ONE EVER THOUGHT OF to almost pinpoint accuracy- it should be given more credit than to write it off as a crazy crackpot theory.
And, as an aside- I do believe the guy has a GOOD chance to be right. Certainly better than most of us.
Well, everyone is just stating their own opinion the only time when it really sounds like a fact is when they get to into the convo. but as for the Ness/Lucas thing, Wouldn't you think that Ness would've been confirmed first, because Lucas is clone of Ness otherwise. He stole his freakin b moves and ForwardSmash for pete's sake. He has a less chance than any sensible char right nowIt seems that people are generally considering their own theories as facts, and as a result disregarding the opinions of others as dumb.
It looks like everyone has this idea that there are "no clones". Really, has that been *explicitly* said anywhere by any developer? If not, then its mostly people WANTING something to be true SO BAD, that they accept it as a reality.
Ness deconfirmed? Again- unless it comes out and says "Ness will not be in brawl" we all should stop playing language games to infer one way or another. People in general are over-emphasizing EVERYTHING. "Oh, he put a comma there, that means there is a pause. Usually, that means a breath should be taken.... Sakurai was holding his breath! Therefore, something incredible must be announced, or meant by this otherwise innocent update!"
Thirdly- if a guy predicted a stage-builder & this dragoon thing... it seems more than luck. If it is luck, I want him picking my lotto numbers.
"Stage builder was a shoe in"- yes, in retrospect it was. But, I remember countless "what do you want in Brawl" threads that had a stage builder as a desired option.
Same goes for characters; I've seen tons of people get flamed in the early goings of Brawl development for saying Sonic would be in, or ANY third party character. Funny how that turned out, huh?
So in essence- don't be all like "This isn't true, it can't be" just because it comes from a source OTHER than *your own* infinite wealth of knowledge and deductive reasoning, or because you don't WANT it to be true; either because you are against the aforementioned postulated ideas, or have voiced your opinion so vehemently to the contrary that you don't want to eat crow.
Nothing that was mentioned is implausible, and by the virtue the guy has predicted two things.... one of which NO ONE EVER THOUGHT OF to almost pinpoint accuracy- it should be given more credit than to write it off as a crazy crackpot theory.
And, as an aside- I do believe the guy has a GOOD chance to be right. Certainly better than most of us.
this should probably be in a different thread.BTW, what kind of moves would Wolf have? I've yet to encounter Wolf in the Star Fox games.
Gosh, guys, can we use our brains here? I've read the entire topic from the first page, and it really seems like we're all getting too excited/overdramatizing this."Well, everyone is just stating their own opinion the only time when it really sounds like a fact is when they get to into the convo..."
Okay, explain the crosshair thenthis should probably be in a different thread.
Gosh, guys, can we use our brains here? I've read the entire topic from the first page, and it really seems like we're all getting too excited/overdramatizing this.
Firstly, why is there even a debate over whether this is a "leak" or not? As many other people have been saying (although some of you don't seem to be listening), all you have to do is know how the Dragoon works in Kirby Air Ride. It looks to me like this guy was just guessing a whole crapton of stuff and happened to get something right. So why are we freaking out over this? That's probably his ultimate goal. He likely wants to get a lot of attention from his "leak".
In all honesty, you're going to see whatever you want to see (something ELSE a bunch of other people were saying that everyone seemed to miss!!). If you love Ness, Wolf, or Falcon, of course you're going to want to believe this "leak". If you like Mewtwo, you'll probably disbelieve it. Is there any way to really look at this "leak" without any sort os subjectivity? I really don't think so.
As much as I am dying for the Knee to be announced, I still don't think I can believe some guy's whims. You may say that he's far too accurate to be faking his "leak", but really the only details he'd have to know was how the Dragoon works. Then, he puts the details of how it works (along with other "leaks") and says it'll be an item. Creepy? No, lucky. If you've ever played Air Ride, you'll know that the Dragoon comes in three parts, that you have to put it together...blah, blah, blah. If he loves Air Ride, he knows how the now-item works.
I seriously doubt this guy "knows" anything about Brawl. But, you can think what you want to. Ultimately, I'm guessing he's just looking for the attention, drama, and hype everyone on this thread is giving him.
Wait, I'm confused. I even went back a couple pages. What crosshair are we talking about? You mean with the Dragoon? *confused*Okay, explain the crosshair then