Project M Social Thread

[curry9186]

Just making sure. It's difficult to determine everything I have questions about from videos. Good players play too fast.

 

[XkaruX]

Curry, watch the last 3 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tTbrDrOM9U

It looks like there's still almost no lag. I vote for more ending lag to shines.

 

[Revven]

It's not that we aren't going to add lag to them, it's that we don't know what controls that... there has to be something in the game that forces you to hold it for that long. It's not a simple "lol add lag to the end of the shine" change.

 

[Scufo]

The only characters who are going to be "100% melee selves" are the top tiers, IE: Jigglypuff, Fox, Falco, Marth, and maybe sheik. Another reason to change a move is that the move may not work in a melee environment, such as wario, his moveset from regular brawl just didn't seem to fit in a melee environment, hence why it got changed and is a much more canon moveset.

Sounds like it's basically a case-by-case basis then.

 

[stingers]

btw, pikas thunder still has limited range.

 

[XkaruX]

I never said it was simple, I just answered Curry's question and expressed my opinion on what I think it would be better.

 

[Scufo]

Okay yeah but not as limited. Pretty sure you can't ever see the cloud.

 

[Strong Badam]

It's not that we aren't going to add lag to them, it's that we don't know what controls that... there has to be something in the game that forces you to hold it for that long. It's not a simple "lol add lag to the end of the shine" change.

that's an animation change i.e. it's definitely doable.
I've bugged people in the BR for a few months about it
it'll be done before release.

 

[.Guu~]

Okay yeah but not as limited. Pretty sure you can't ever see the cloud.

You can easily see it on stages like Shadow Moses Island, and when you jump off the side of a stage and use it so the cloud is lowered.

Making it infinite could be a good buff though, and it was infinite in SSB64.

 

[Scufo]

ffffffok so I was wrong. You get what I mean, though.

 

[stingers]

it'd help, i mean its better in 64 cuz you can't DI it really lol. you can live really long by DIing it, cuz it sends you nearly all horizontal and you never reach the blast zone

 

[shanus]

that's an animation change i.e. it's definitely doable.
I've bugged people in the BR for a few months about it
it'll be done before release.

Strong Bad here is what we call a nagger. Open BBox, preview model, open falco/fox, press insert a few times towards the end of the endlag animation and let it interpolate a few frames.

 

[.Guu~]

it'd help, i mean its better in 64 cuz you can't DI it really lol. you can live really long by DIing it, cuz it sends you nearly all horizontal and you never reach the blast zone

You can SDI out of it in 64 <_<. The reason it's a good finisher move is because the knockback is mostly vertical in 64 and you can combo into it because of the previously stated crazy *** hitstun.

Honestly if Pikachu just keeps his several buffs from Brawl, coupled with his 64 Bair and and Melee Usmash, I doubt he'll need much work.

 

[stingers]

of course you can SDI but it doesn't change much. not compared to altering your trajectory in melee/brawl

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly if Pikachu just keeps his several buffs from Brawl, coupled with his 64 Bair and and Melee Usmash, I doubt he'll need much work.

This. Brawl Pika is pretty damn good with Melee physics. He's got a few tilts and smash attacks that are a bit more disjointed. His dsmash and thunder are better. Longer grab range, good slide distance with a JC grab, faster running, more damage on uair. Quick attack cancelling.

Pika is pretty good. Just needs that 64 back air and he's good to go imo.


Also, why are people acting like Falcon isn't very good?

He'd be top tier if it weren't for Sheik and Falco.

 

[Stevo]

I personally think fox is a bad matchup for him as well
I'm not really sure about jiggs matchup.
Marth is debatable, but overall close.

Basically, falcon has tough matchups with the most common characters in the game.

Obviously he is a great character though.

if it weren't for half of the top tier characters existing, yes, he would be top tier............ XD

 

[GP&B]

Falcon's great, he's simply not exceptional. I'm curious what kind of simple buffs could make him stand out a little more and hold up against some of his match ups.

But this won't matter until the balance phase anyways.

 

[MonkUnit]

Just making sure. It's difficult to determine everything I have questions about from videos. Good players play too fast.

That is what the IRC is for. If you have questions, feel free to ask them there.

 

[curry9186]

That is what the IRC is for. If you have questions, feel free to ask them there.

I'll hop on there when I have more free time. Too much school right now.

 

[Phantom1987]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGU4Ctzl-n8

The dash attack is awesome. Maybe it could add a faster pace to mario M gameplay.

 

[Juushichi]

Eh... Dash Attack and ground pound seem meh. Mario Tornado is legit, I suppose.

 

[Anth0ny]

That dash attack is awesome. Way better than what he has currently.

However, I'm pretty sure his current dash attack is from mario 64 as well...If you run, crouch and press b.

 

[Stevo]

maybe his current dash attack could be his d-tilt

cause that dash attack IS pretty cool

 

[Zef]

that dash attack
mmmmmmmm

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Strong Bad here is what we call a nagger. Open BBox, preview model, open falco/fox, press insert a few times towards the end of the endlag animation and let it interpolate a few frames.

Interloping can be REALLY evil at times.

 

[SothE700k]

I'm not feeling the ground n' pound with Mario.
But dash attack? OHH MAN. *begs for that dash attack to be in*

 

[Thunderhorse+]

Interloping can be REALLY evil at times.

what about Eloping?

 

[NxtGenFalco93]

Hmm...I noticed that Pit's still having difficulty being viable and, umm...fun to play as.

SO. Howzabout he has arrows that give good backwards knockback (especially fully charged), but they have limited range (which would be lengthened the more his arrow is charged) as well as less lagtime before you shoot them but much more afterwards? He could then use it to finish combos, but can't spam it anymore. It could be his own little projectile knee.

Also, his sideb needs less lameness as well. How about having it knock opponents upward and have a good amount of stun after its final hit, but also having more lagtime afterwards? But if it hits, it would give enough stun so that he could usually follow it up with stuff. It could be his own little raptor boost.

Just a couple ideas. Take 'em or leave 'em, I guess.

*goes back to lurking*

have you played P:M or did you see vids? if vids where cus he is the only charecter i have yet to see in P:M...

and loved the look of that mario dash attack

 

[Rikana]

Pit has barely been worked on.

 

[Shadic]

Pit has barely been worked on.

And that is why we haven't show him off at all.

 

[NeoZ]

People have been asking a lot about Pit lately, and the devs already said many times that not much has been done to him, so I recommend people just coming in to the thread to at least read a few of the latest pages before asking, maybe what you want to know has already been answered, like in this case.

 

[Pragmatic]

Wondering if I could obtain the code to set up Project Melee at a tournament happening on Saturday.

My Wii is broken, or I'd have it already.

PM it to me. ****.

I also used to be in the Project Melee Backroom. So relax.

I ran streams with 5ive, was hoping they could happen again.

 

[Zef]

aw sht give pragmatic project m pls

hes coming to the tourney im going to, i think

 

[-Googs]

Wondering if I could obtain the code to set up Project Melee at a tournament happening on Saturday.

My Wii is broken, or I'd have it already.

PM it to me. ****.

I also used to be in the Project Melee Backroom. So relax.

I ran streams with 5ive, was hoping they could happen again.

get banned? shiiiiiet

 

[Luxor]

Nice try, I say.

 

[XkaruX]

Any constants tweaking stream tonight?

 

[MonkUnit]

I doubt it. It is about 9:00 PM CST and that would only give us about 2 hours to do constant tweaking and Dant may not have time. I would say the chances are slim, just like yesterday.

 

[cubaisdeath]

btw, pikas thunder still has limited range.

Okay yeah but not as limited. Pretty sure you can't ever see the cloud.

why would you want to buff pikas thunder? its already buffed because of brawl.

aw sht give pragmatic project m pls

hes coming to the tourney im going to, i think

no. he already stated this before, he was NEVER in the PMBR

 

[XkaruX]

Awww... I find them entertaining for some reason.

Anyway, 1337 pages of hype for this project. Congrats.

 

[GHNeko]

i cant believe people want to buff pika's thunder out of all hsi moves.