Project M Social Thread

[Strong Badam]

zairs currently have 10 frames of landing lag and if they need more we can edit it easily.

 

[Wind Owl]

Pretty sure they have 15 right now.

 

[Dingding123]

zairs currently have 10 frames of landing lag and if they need more we can edit it easily.

MOOOAAAARRRR!!!!!11 I DEMAND IT.

I honestly hate what brawl has done with zair, mainly the fact that it's a better option than projectiles in quite a few situations. It annoys even myself when I spam it and even more when it works. Of course you guys have fixed that, but I believe that it shouldn't be as useful as it still is. Great zairs provide more defensive gameplay from what I've experienced.

 

[Sterowent]

conceptually, you mean, considering how any defensive tactic in a melee environment can surprise you in how either useless it can be or how much more it lends itself to a successful offensive, or at least passive aggressive, playstyle.

 

[Kink-Link5]

I'd be fine with Zairs having crazy tricksies and low landing lag if they had their hitboxes from Melee.

 

[Archangel]

for putting mario tornado back, you could port luigi's PSA over mario
once luigi is ported over mario you could edit his PSA for adding the right physics, correct sfx gfx and slowing the horizontal movement of the b-down

for putting roy pichu mewtwo doc and Ylink
(YLink coming soon: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=8298.0)
port them over the alloys and Gbowser/Warioman (since no items will be used) using the current PSAs we have in the "Brawl Vault"
after porting them, you could fix the PSAs and adding some codes, if needed

and finally the question:

will pm come with stages(the ones used in videos) like b+ does?i.e. n64 dream land, hyrule castle metal mario stage etc

take the F5 and the mario bdown stuff not as requests, but ideas or suggestions whatsoever
thanks for the attention


FirenLF2

Anyone check into this?

 

[Strong Badam]

yes, clearly that's possible and we've just been ignoring that possibility
(on both suggestions)

PM will come with stages.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Don't putting characters in the Alloys limitate their moves?

If yes, it wouldn't be viable anyway

 

[Deleted member]

Aww. If Zairs have too much lag, then Zair hit to grab won't be possible on Tink and Link.

How about putting Zairs on timers kinda like ROB's laser? Except you can't use another Zair for X frames instead of it weakening.

All characters with Zair have good spacing tools and projectiles. They don't need a dependency on spamming Zair to be successful.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Worry about balancing Zair later on, imo. It's more important to get more things working more functionally, imo.

 

[ICHIGOBLEACH]

Aww. If Zairs have too much lag, then Zair hit to grab won't be possible on Tink and Link.

How about putting Zairs on timers kinda like ROB's laser? Except you can't use another Zair for X frames instead of it weakening.

All characters with Zair have good spacing tools and projectiles. They don't need a dependency on spamming Zair to be successful.

is the first thing even a combo? I thought it was just another zair gimmick. zairs need landing lag, they aren't really "melee" if you know what I mean. As stated above the zair characters have other good tools.
also what the above guy said

 

[Sneak8288]

I would rather go a brawl character in P:M for a tourney than spacies. I honestly would probably go Snake or Lucas

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Zairs should not be on timers.

 

[GP&B]

Would definitely play Ike under the P:M environment.

 

[Dingding123]

Zairs should not be on timers.

^^This. Or any other move besides b moves, for that matter. But most importantly...

Worry about balancing Zair later on, imo. It's more important to get more things working more functionally, imo.

^^^^^^This. Someone in PM:BR throwing out some moar subjects that need discussing would be cool.

But for now, I totally agree with GD and Sneak; I would personally LOVE playing as Ike and D3 in P:M. Aside from good ol' , of course.

 

[Sneak8288]

If i wanted to play a melee character that badly... i would just play melee and i would rather play a brawl character vs a melee character than using a melee character vs a brawl character

 

[Shadic]

But for now, I totally agree with GD and Sneak; I would personally LOVE playing as Ike and D3 in P:M. Aside from good ol' , of course.

Funny you say that. I'm workin' on him right now.

 

[Strong Badam]

Zairs should not be on timers.

what, i don't even understand what this means

 

[GP&B]

Someone posted about how Zairs can only be used after x amount of frames.

 

[genkaku]

Isn't that just because if it's used before it would just be a jump canceled grab?

 

[Archangel]

btw. Is the PC Drop back yet or does that have to wait till light shielding?

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Isn't that just because if it's used before it would just be a jump canceled grab?

So? It's still a bad idea.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Would definitely play Ike under the P:M environment.

Yeah, Ike! Full of win.

As a addicted Fire Emblem fan I really hope that Ike gameplay will be awesome as the character in the game or at least as fun as Roy's (Yeah Roy sucks but man, it's so ****ing fun to play as him).

 

[Wiscus]

Sorry to crash in on the current conversation:

I'm really excited for this project and I was wondering if there are any definite plans for pkmn trainer? I know everything is still in planning stages for all of the pokemon(?) but I would love some info, please
Also someone mentioned some videos of Lucario a few pages back? I can't find them, could someone hook me up, please?

Sorry for being one of those nosy people, I cant help it.

 

[Sterowent]

right now, they're doing poketrainer like b+ did, with no stamina and autoswitch on death. don't know if that'll change, but there you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-bQgYIru6I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuMfgCLvqJI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8OlxHBNQvE&feature=related

 

[FireBall Stars]

Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-bQgYIru6I&playnext=1&videos=wztPu-0zuA4
The first match of Lee Martin with Lucario in JCaesar channel.

There are another two, I guess you can find them from this

Ninja'd

 

[Wiscus]

Thank you very much for the quick replies! Oh these are so cool ;A;

 

[dabridge]

Question: Is the purple Final Destination seen on all Project M vids going to be standard? It looks like an ugly recolor imo and I'd like to change it to something else when the beta comes out, will that be possible without desyncs? (assuming you guys edited boundaries/collision data)

 

[ClinkStryphart]

Question: Is the purple Final Destination seen on all Project M vids going to be standard? It looks like an ugly recolor imo and I'd like to change it to something else when the beta comes out, will that be possible without desyncs? (assuming you guys edited boundaries/collision data)

I personally think it should stay purple due to it gives it the melee feel also its the original color. Basically it gives the current FD a Nostalgic feel and look.

I read a few pages Back that you guys were planning on implementing Luigi's Tornado to Mario if I read that right. Now If I remember in Melee even though I really didn't play Mario much I didn't think Mario's Tornado actually moved. I haven't played Melee in along time so I don't really remember if it did or not. I was gonna say couldn't you just port his or Squirtle's version of tornado to Marios down B?

 

[Sneak8288]

gamewatching showed screenshots of a fd he was working on

 

[ValTroX]

FD's recolor is not bad, I just hate how Roy's and Mewtwo's pic comes flying on the bg at the beggining and how awful the stage looks on the water part. If you could somehow remove the lightning(which i guess is the thing that changes the color of the stage) it would be great. I guess it's a task for FroHo if he has some free time on his agenda.

Edit: Sneak, I think it's completely unnecessary to swap brawl's FD with Melee FD, I mean, brawl's looks better and if you stretch it(which I think you already did) there's no need for the model swap.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Yes, Mario Tornado moves a little distance to the right or left in the ground.

They didn't said that Mario's Tornado will be identical to Luigi's Cyclone, as they never was (Cyclone always had only one or two hits and since melee moves a great distance).

It wouldn't be Mario Tornado if it get too similar to the cyclone after all.

 

[Shadic]

FD's recolor is not bad, I just hate how Roy's and Mewtwo's pic comes flying on the bg at the beggining and how awful the stage looks on the water part. If you could somehow remove the lightning(which i guess is the thing that changes the color of the stage) it would be great. I guess it's a task for FroHo if he has some free time on his agenda.

Pretty sure that's not in the version we have.

And yeah, the portraits are dumb.

 

[Anth0ny]

, I mean, brawl's looks better

That's debatable. I like the old hexagon look.

I hope GW makes the old FD just for the sake of making it. Speaking of GW, Yoshi's Story should be done any time now

 

[ValTroX]

Pretty sure that's not in the version we have.

And yeah, the portraits are dumb.

what's not on the version you guys have?

That's debatable. I like the old hexagon look.

I hope GW makes the old FD just for the sake of making it. Speaking of GW, Yoshi's Story should be done any time now

I could live with it, but I just think that brawl's FD is much more detailed and I like the BG better

 

[FireBall Stars]

I don't like the recolor too, the lighthing makes it look even worse, I rather have Tabuu Destination on my sd that really kicks some ***.

About the portraits, well, I rarely see they when playing so that doesn't make much of a difference.

I like Melee FD but I just don't like the Brawl's one more because of being to small(both vertically and horizontally) and that ***hole edge (which has already been fixed).

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I like Melee FD but I just don't like the Brawl's one more because of being to small(both vertically and horizontally) and that ***hole edge (which has already been fixed).

There was a "Melee sized" version of FD made a long time ago with fixed edges and everything if you guys want it. It works a lot better for battles and stuff. o_o Whether it's actually the same size as Melee's FD, I dunno, but it's significantly larger.

Here ya go, I even put the Melee FD texture on there to save time. :3

http://www.mediafire.com/?utf7agtd2ytvxey

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Don't worry all stages like Melee FD, hyrule castle, and whatever stages they are planning to put into project m will indeed come with project m.

 

[JCaesar]

Pretty sure that's not in the version we have.

Yeah it is actually.

But that doesn't mean that's the version that Project M will release with.

 

[NAKAT]

This is NAKAT where can I download Project M?