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^^^^^This should be a top tier priority!
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standardtoaster
Tubacabra
aren't her brawl ones super huge? I know there's that small glitch of it using the wrong animation when you first pull the item. you have to use any move that will make the item go away (throw it, use toad, parasol, etc) and then you'll use the proper animation for it which gives them insane reach
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Well you guys could just port in the Melee stats and animations? 
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
its not possible to port animations from melee.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Well, I don't actually mean "port", per se, but manipulate the animations to look the same with matching hitboxes. How else did you manage to make the spacees' animations look so close to their Melee incarnations'?
hotdogturtle
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MaxThunder
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JCaesar
Smash Hero
http://www.twitch.tv/JCaesar
Live with Strong Bad, Ryoko, and Vanguard!
Live with Strong Bad, Ryoko, and Vanguard!
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
Somebody needs to make a Megabus guy over Ganon texture hack.
cannedbread
Smash Lord
what the hell is megabus
megabus is the only way to free ICG.
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines#
streaming a little bit with my bro if anybody feels like watching
streaming a little bit with my bro if anybody feels like watching
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Canned, assuming that was a serious question, Megabus is another one of those interstate bus companies, like Greyhound and BoltBus. Personally, I prefer Bolt. Their ticket prices are usually cheaper and they have $1 tickets at specific times every week.
Nobody answered my question about just changing Peach's beam sword animations to match her Melee ones.
Nobody answered my question about just changing Peach's beam sword animations to match her Melee ones.
cannedbread
Smash Lord
oh i thought it was something funny
why are people talking and #trending a bus company come on now
why are people talking and #trending a bus company come on now
bubbaking
Smash Hero
No, they're saying to import/retexture a skin of the Megabus mascot over Ganon. I personally think that would be hilarious. XD
MaxThunder
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tripwire
Smash Journeyman
MEGABUS...it was a commercial from APEX.
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Read these:
^^^^^This should be a top tier priority!
bubbaking
Smash Hero
Leffen's Thoughts on Apex's P:M Invitational
Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd share this:
Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd share this:
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
holy jesus **** that's a lot of salt
Charizard Glide got fixed, Pit arguably won't camp or gay out as hard, and Sonic was touched
2.1 Lucario on the other hand, ahaaa. He's a funny guy.
Like I agree somewhat on recovery and some of the combo stuff. Most of it isn't on par with the ridiculous Spacie/Falcon/Marth stuff though.
2.1 Lucario on the other hand, ahaaa. He's a funny guy.
Like I agree somewhat on recovery and some of the combo stuff. Most of it isn't on par with the ridiculous Spacie/Falcon/Marth stuff though.
batistabus
Smash Journeyman
-Um...at least he tried to make up for it?Sorry for the double post, but I thought I'd share this:
Leffen:
This was easily, and by far, the worst tournament I've ever attended.
However, I still want to apologize for being a bit too harsh to the crew
also I'm probably not gonna play any more 2.5, or P:M overall,
at least until you change some mechanics (pits arrows, sonics side B, charizards recovery, every god damn character having GODLIKE auto combos/recovery). This game does a very very poor job of rewarding the same type of skill that Melee does.
edit: possibly entering P:M at g3 just to stall every game with charizard, gay every character out with planking with pit, and just spamming side b with sonic to get them nerfed just like people did with lucario the second i did decent with him.
-Dammit. =/
-These are some legitimate points that should be considered.
-And how'd that work out for his ZSS?
Basically, Leffens gonna Leff.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
This just in, Leffen is the reason Lucario got nerftweaked
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
auto combos like..... fox uthrow uair!!?!?!?!?!?!?
dat ain't melee like
dat ain't melee like
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Lol, leffen mad salty about getting jv4stocked by jcz.
all the megabus shenanigans are because of megabus had commercials on the 8wayrun stream. Combined with the fact that M2K had advertising in his tag for every game (CT|EMP Mew2King), yea, people were going hard with the jokes about advertising.
all the megabus shenanigans are because of megabus had commercials on the 8wayrun stream. Combined with the fact that M2K had advertising in his tag for every game (CT|EMP Mew2King), yea, people were going hard with the jokes about advertising.
Archangel
Smash Hero
@Leffen it's called losing, deal with it.
@Eli There is this amazing feature called DI...and sometimes you can even smash it...all kinds of crazy things can result from that...like...idk...not dying to Uthrow-Uair?
@Eli There is this amazing feature called DI...and sometimes you can even smash it...all kinds of crazy things can result from that...like...idk...not dying to Uthrow-Uair?
Beat!
Smash Master
I very much doubt he's too salty about that particular loss, considering he ended up outplacing the guy.
I'm not sure what leffen's referring to exactly, but fox's uthrow uair is not an auto combo, since you have to follow the opponents DI.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I wouldn't consider 2-peices at specific percents auto-combos.
More stuff like, Falcon D-throwing and then having time to react to DI at any percent to either: Side B, fair, uair, regrab, D-tilt, or tech chase with dair, side b, or a faked out fair; stuff that is extremely easily confirmed and reaps great reward with minimal decision making and works at a large variety of percents.
Or, in the case of PM, characters being designed to combo 50+% off every hit and follow up extremely easily and extensively. That could easily be chalked up to not knowing where to DI moves in PM though. I'm sure with proficient DI we'll be closer to Melee's 2-peices in a matter of time.
More stuff like, Falcon D-throwing and then having time to react to DI at any percent to either: Side B, fair, uair, regrab, D-tilt, or tech chase with dair, side b, or a faked out fair; stuff that is extremely easily confirmed and reaps great reward with minimal decision making and works at a large variety of percents.
Or, in the case of PM, characters being designed to combo 50+% off every hit and follow up extremely easily and extensively. That could easily be chalked up to not knowing where to DI moves in PM though. I'm sure with proficient DI we'll be closer to Melee's 2-peices in a matter of time.
I do think that some characters have a lower learning curve than some of the veteran Melee characters.
As for Fox U-throw to Uair, sure you can sort of DI out of it, but they're also in the perfect position to regrab you again, and you're always likely to get hit the second time. I mean come on, we've seen many matches where a player missed the u-throw to uair once but then immediately regrabbed, did it again, and then ***** the opponent. It's difficult to DI out of because most of the time (imo) they take you by surprise.
Also, Bubbaking, surprising lack of Fox's in the Top 8 of Apex 2013 Melee lol. Just sayin.
As for Fox U-throw to Uair, sure you can sort of DI out of it, but they're also in the perfect position to regrab you again, and you're always likely to get hit the second time. I mean come on, we've seen many matches where a player missed the u-throw to uair once but then immediately regrabbed, did it again, and then ***** the opponent. It's difficult to DI out of because most of the time (imo) they take you by surprise.
Also, Bubbaking, surprising lack of Fox's in the Top 8 of Apex 2013 Melee lol. Just sayin.
`dazrin
Smash Champion
inb4
ohwait. That's melee. hurrhurr
ohwait. That's melee. hurrhurr
lol @ leffen.
good thing this game is still a wip.
some of his complaints are questionable tho imo.
like stalling with zard or sanic side b being dumb (unless he meant down b, which is more understandable)
good thing this game is still a wip.
some of his complaints are questionable tho imo.
like stalling with zard or sanic side b being dumb (unless he meant down b, which is more understandable)
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Originally Posted by leffen
That's pretty cool, I suggest all the top players exploit tactics to their fullest extent and see what happens.
It's more productive for the game than just whining about it.
So to sum things up: he's offering to playtest the game by breaking characters in a tournament setting?
That's pretty cool, I suggest all the top players exploit tactics to their fullest extent and see what happens.
It's more productive for the game than just whining about it.
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
Wow you guys actually think I didn't know that you can smash DI out of Fox's uair lmao
If he aims it well, it's not as simple as SDI somewhere, though. It's definitely auto-combo in many situations.
OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
On the subject of port priority with regards to grabbing:
In most, if not, all fighting games, whenever both characters try to grab each other it results in a break away type situation. Would it be possible to have this sort of thing happen in P:M? Instead of one character grabbing the other because they just happened to be player 1 (or player 4, I'm not sure how it works with grabbing), they both perform they're grab release animations. I'm not sure if the PMBR already thought of doing this, but I think it would solve a few problems.
Also, I like how Brawl handles grabboxes and hitboxes connecting in that damage>grab>knockback
In most, if not, all fighting games, whenever both characters try to grab each other it results in a break away type situation. Would it be possible to have this sort of thing happen in P:M? Instead of one character grabbing the other because they just happened to be player 1 (or player 4, I'm not sure how it works with grabbing), they both perform they're grab release animations. I'm not sure if the PMBR already thought of doing this, but I think it would solve a few problems.
Also, I like how Brawl handles grabboxes and hitboxes connecting in that damage>grab>knockback
Beat!
Smash Master
Allow me to clarify what I mean:
Upthrow --> upair with Fox is not an auto combo, because the Fox has to react to his opponent's DI. It's still a combo (most of the time) if done correctly, but it's not an auto combo.
An example of an auto combo in Melee would be Wobbling, since it's 100% execution once you've started it.
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