Project M Social Thread

[MaxThunder]

doesn't really give him height, but causes him to loose less height...

 

[cannedbread]

yeah it's kind of like a stall mid air moonwalk thing that sends him backwards kind of

 

[ELI-mination]

To Hylian and Oro and the rest of the people who want to see Link vs. DK, we do a set at about the 1 hour mark in the video. We do more later but I don't remember when.

 

[DMG]

1:03:30

You are welcome

SB you did some dirty dirty in that vid, Cargo Fthrow regrab if they don't DI away? Eww

Also not gonna lie, looking at some of this it looks pretty even. I feel like you have to be VERY careful using Nair, especially the weaker hit of it, vs DK because if you do it too much he'll just CC and grab you for it. That honestly looks like the most reliable way for DK to get in, is to get close enough that boomerang/bomb would be too slow to pull out and CC something into grab.

How well does reverse Utilt work vs Link's Nair or Bair? I feel like you could trade or win and put Link in a worse spot.

 

[bubbaking]

I know about the stalling. I play Marth all the time in Melee, lolz. Does it outright give height when you WB it in P:M?

 

[ELI-mination]

Also,

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/341390491?t=2h54m50s

LUIGI TOO GOOD.

AND THIS TOO: www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/341390491?t=16h13m45s

 

[Oro?!]

I am now confident i will 3 stock strong bad if/when i play him.

 

[leelue]

You can get regrabbed even if you Di away
Confessions of a ganon player

Bbk using Wave terminology instead of RBR injects arbitraryness into the naming. Waveland, dash, shine... all use airdodges. Wavebounce breaks the trend

 

[DrinkingFood]

Well superwavedash breaks that rule as well, but a more common trend is for techniques involving sliding along the ground to include wave-.

 

[Sweet™]

I took first at a ProjectM tourney and won $95.

I BELIEVE I SHOULD BE AT THIS APEX INVITATIONAL.

 

[JCaesar]

Post the results please.

 

[Sweet™]

It was done on paper. Have to wait til I get back to my campus and see if I can get them, yo.

 

[GaretHax]

I know about the stalling. I play Marth all the time in Melee, lolz. Does it outright give height when you WB it in P:M?

I made a quick video for you Bubba, I can make a better one with more accurate examples later if you want but I literally only had like 10 minutes lol

http://m.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=/#/watch?v=bImgUqtgN94

 

[JCaesar]

It was done on paper. Have to wait til I get back to my campus and see if I can get them, yo.

Well when you get them, please post the full results here and in this thread, along with details such as characters, entrance fees/payouts, whether buffer was allowed, etc. Thanks!

 

[Sweet™]

Well when you get them, please post the full results here and in this thread, along with details such as characters, entrance fees/payouts, whether buffer was allowed, etc. Thanks!

I can do that!

 

[Yobolight]

Can I get a link to the consensus or current discussion on the characters that are not yet implemented such as Kirby?

I am curious how such a horrendous character will be adapted for PM and want to make sure he is not OP.

Also MetaKnight, I wonder if it is possible to balance him without making him a joke character, given his innate attributes. Getting him just right seems difficult and I just want to know where the PM team is heading.

 

[Juushichi]

Go to smashmods.

 

[Hylian]

I am now confident i will 3 stock strong bad if/when i play him.

I would put money against that.

Also, I agree with DMG.

 

[Strong Badam]

I also like how people somehow make conclusions from watching friendlies LOL

 

[Stevo]

I also like how people somehow make conclusions from watching button checks LOL

* fixed

 

[9Kplus1]

you're crazy, DMG

DK obviously counters Link

the craziness

 

[cannedbread]

i want to think it's in dk's favor but what do i know anyhow

 

[ELI-mination]

Now Hylian, Oro was obviously being sarcastic. Nobody could be that arrogant if they aren't named Eli.

#ButtonChecks

 

[metroid1117]

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/341390491?t=15h11m

that is all

Also,

http://www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/341390491?t=2h54m50s

LUIGI TOO GOOD.

AND THIS TOO: www.twitch.tv/freesaltines/b/341390491?t=16h13m45s

LOL what the **** did I just watch? Great stuff you guys, I wish I had more time to watch the stream!

 

[Oro?!]

Now Eli, you don't have to be Eli to be that cocky. Yes it was sarcasm tho. NO ONE **** TALKS HERE. WE HAVE FREAKIN METROID.

 

[Kink-Link5]

MetroidM is a 100:0 matchup. We need Ice Climbers in this *****. PK Freeze just isn't cutting it to stop the beast.

 

[cannedbread]

we need samus to kill the metroid LOL DID YOU GET IT GUYS

 

[Kink-Link5]

Samus doesn't even have the ice beam, fool.

 

[@TKbreezy]

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp

 

[9Kplus1]

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp is officially live, now

 

[GimR]

Smash@Xanadu - Project M 2.5 is Live!

http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp

 

[Kink-Link5]

Hey guys, anyone know where I can find a PM stream around these parts?

 

[Jolteon]

I will be able to stream since I've got my own place now with good net. Need to pick up some recording equipment, though.

 

[leelue]

I may be only able to play my secondaries but this smashfest is gahwlike
Get ***** everyone who wasn't here
Guru

 

[ELI-mination]

I may be only able to play my secondaries but this smashfest is gahwlike
Get ***** everyone who wasn't here
Guru

Get your *** back here *****

 

[bubbaking]

Bbk using Wave terminology instead of RBR injects arbitraryness into the naming. Waveland, dash, shine... all use airdodges. Wavebounce breaks the trend

Well superwavedash breaks that rule as well, but a more common trend is for techniques involving sliding along the ground to include wave-.

^This. Wave techniques generally encompass tricks to move quickly laterally along the stage. The term wavedash is also used in other fighting games, but it's for a similar purpose. "Wave-" isn't specific to Smash.

 

[iLink]

I cant think of a single fighting game where "wave" is used outside of the term wavedash and isn't almost exactly what wavedashing is in melee.

 

[bubbaking]

I can, and it's almost every FG that exists that isn't Smash. In every other FG, wavedashing consists of a quick dash that can be cancelled almost immediately by a certain other action. In UMvC3, it's crouch, so to wavedash consecutively, you dash > crouch > dash > crouch repeatedly really, really fast, so it looks like you're hobbling across the screen quickly. In MK (or was it Tekken....can't remember), it's by by blocking during the dash, so to wavedash consecutively, you input double tap forward > block button > forward once > block > forward > block. In other words, other FG's wavedashes consist of cutting the lag of a dash entirely (dashes have practically no startup in those games either). In Melee, a WD always has a set amount of landing lag (10 frames). It's much less safe than wavedashes in other games and is used very differently.

Tl;dr - In other fighting games, a wavedash is a way of making a dash safe. In Smash, a wavedash is a way of moving quickly while opening yourself up to some risk. Two very different things, tbh.

Edit: In fact, if anything, Melee wavedashing is actually extremely similar to a technique in other games, like Marvel, called triangle jumping. Triangle jumping consists of jumping and then air dashing towards the ground immediately after the jump. It looks just like a Melee wavedash and it has similar risk. In Marvel, some chars are better off using wavedashing over triangle jumping and some are the opposite. Doom is interesting in that he can't wavedash and he can only triangle jump for fast movement.

#TheMoreYouKnow

 

[iLink]

You totally read my post wrong. I know very well that wavedashing is in other fighting games and how to do them. I said the word "wave" isnt used outside of the term wavedash.

Edit: and no, wavedashing isnt just a way to make dashing safe, doing an attack out of a dash is still considered a wavedash. I've been playing fighting games since the cvs2 days so you dont need to lecture me on this, i know very well how doom and mvc2/mvc3 works

 

[bubbaking]

I probably did. Tbh, I'm kinda sleepy and all I really read was "Wavedashing in other fighting games is just like Melee."

Edit: But that still makes the dash safe.

Noted. Lectures not needed.