Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Game and Watch doesn't have his almost good Melee D-throw though. He has the dumb Brawl one. So now instead of Chain Grabbing or Tech Chasing, it just tech chases.
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DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
Could Melee GaW tech chase on everyone though? That's something his Brawl dthrow affords him, that's for sure. Idk if his melee one could do it, but if not, that would be one advantage of it.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I'd much rather have one that Tech Chases or Chain Grabs. Tech chasing floaties isn't worth losing combos into killers.
Like imagine if Falcon didn't have his lolbraindead D-throw that gives you five years to react to DI and either autocombo into Knee or dash dance to easymode tech chase on reaction.
That's like what Game and Watch's D-throw almost is in Melee. It isn't, but it almost is. The main difference being less time to react to DI due to more end lag on the throw from release than Falcon has.
Like imagine if Falcon didn't have his lolbraindead D-throw that gives you five years to react to DI and either autocombo into Knee or dash dance to easymode tech chase on reaction.
That's like what Game and Watch's D-throw almost is in Melee. It isn't, but it almost is. The main difference being less time to react to DI due to more end lag on the throw from release than Falcon has.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Hey everybody, just wanted to let everybody know that the next video will be delayed. Getting everything ready has taken longer than originally planned, so it'll have to wait for a bit. We don't have an ETA at the moment, unfortunately, so you may proceed to live your lives as normal in the meanwhile.
Thanks for your patience!
Thanks for your patience!
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
It's okay Shadic, it just gives us more time to talk about how OP Ike is.
Isn't Ike OP guys?
He has a sword, those are OP, right?
Isn't Ike OP guys?
He has a sword, those are OP, right?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
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friendlies atm, tourney coming up soon
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also featuring dr peepee, lozr, and myself. and juno mcgrath
friendlies atm, tourney coming up soon
batistabus
Smash Journeyman
So delayed as in...not today?
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Yes, as in not today.
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Nah, it's cool, we just need to put someone who uses a lance into the game and it'll all work out.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
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cannedbread
Smash Lord
try u-throw
Yeah I meant the Melee one.
The Melee Dthrow was better because you could CG with it, and get free hits literally easier than a tech chase. Trust me I want them to revert it whenever possible BACK to the Melee one.
It's also different because they could DI in front or behind G^W. His Dthrow was basically a Mario Dthrow, which is AMAZING. This current Dthrow sucks.
People are stupid and think he's bad because people are picking up easier stuff/different characters. IKE
UTHROW
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
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cannedbread
Smash Lord
i don't remember where exactly but i read that gdubs' UTHROW in p:m is the same as his dthrow in melee. it might have been smashmod forums or something other idk but it's worth trying.
I finally got Project m running! Whooooooooooooo yyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh!
I was running around in my basement screaming and jumping with joy when I saw the screen say project m.
Time to get really good...
If only I was already way better at Melee techs. ; _ ;
I was running around in my basement screaming and jumping with joy when I saw the screen say project m.
Time to get really good...
If only I was already way better at Melee techs. ; _ ;
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
You're almost 2 years late bro, but I'm glad you got it running
metroid1117
Smash Master
Your elation reminds me of the first time I got Brawl+ running on my Wii
. By the way, what do you guys think the update will be? Since it's a video and since he was teased in the Ivysaur trailer, I think it's a safe bet that it's going to be a Squirtle trailer.
I don't think that's the case. The old Dthrow was literally like a Mario Dthrow. Bounced them straight up, they could DI left or right to bounce those ways no teching obv. It gave him a great option vs floaties because he could do Dthrow Nair/Fair/etc. Vs fast fallers it gave him a CG at certain %'s and also the free hit. His Uthrow was like a Mario Uthrow, and is still basically that. Maybe they lowered how high it sends people.
Either way, the current G^W Dthrow is a nerf. Even if it did a ton of damage like Bowser Dthrow, the ability to CG or lead it into free Nair/aerial was stronger. Given his actual grabbing capability, it's not like you're giving him Ike/Marth grab range or a nice JC grab range. I'd like to see his Dthrow reverted back to Melee if possible because it was a great throw and worked well in tangent with Uthrow for covering a lot of %'s and characters you could combo them with.
Charizard's Dthrow should also probably be changed. Dthrows that make sense, without giving a ton of combo options or free hits, are throws like DK or Bowser Dthrow. Those "fit" and make more sense than an immediate flooring Dthrow imo.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
+1 support for Small pop-up-> tech chase D-throws over instant tech ones.
Fox and Falco can keep their ****ty tech chase D-throws; they don't need good ones.
Fox and Falco can keep their ****ty tech chase D-throws; they don't need good ones.
metroid1117
Smash Master
With sticky teching, I think Fox and Falco's DThrows can be quite good once people start practicing tech chasing on reaction since opponents can't go as far as they do in Melee.
By the way, has anyone else seen that video of a Japanese Fox spamming DThrow on a Jiggs? I don't remember where I saw it, but the Fox basically kept doing DThrow -> UTilt to cover the tech-in-place and would run to cover the techroll on reaction since Jiggs' roll is so bad (in Melee, her tech-roll forward is a couple of units worse than Pikachu's but her tech-roll backward seems average, according to Magus).
I don't really think his DThrow needs to be changed, but what do you have in mind? I guess his vBrawl DThrow would be interesting, but it seems too similar to his UThrow.
I would give him more throw lag/make him have to wait a bit more, or increase the throw distance/scaling. It keeps people fairly close to him, even if they DI away, and he moves quick enough out of it that doing anything but DI away is basically pointless.
I just compare it to, say Wario Dthrow which is quite sad compared to his, and it just feels again basically like a backwards Shiek Dthrow.
It's more noticeably on floaty characters. If you Dthrow say Falcon, DI away and going straight into tech options is fine. But DI away on some of the floaties just gets you dash attacked or still hit because you can't get to the ground quick enough. DI towards or no DI on the throw... gets you regrabbed, Bair'd, Ftilted, etc
I just compare it to, say Wario Dthrow which is quite sad compared to his, and it just feels again basically like a backwards Shiek Dthrow.
It's more noticeably on floaty characters. If you Dthrow say Falcon, DI away and going straight into tech options is fine. But DI away on some of the floaties just gets you dash attacked or still hit because you can't get to the ground quick enough. DI towards or no DI on the throw... gets you regrabbed, Bair'd, Ftilted, etc
MonkUnit
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Dammit Monk, and I was just looking for a Sunny Milk theme remix to put in my signature too.
Stream is really stuttery?
Stream is really stuttery?
OmegaMuffin
Smash Journeyman
I used to be able to CG Link until like.. 50 with it G&W's Melee dthrow.
I don't really play GDubs though so eh.
Did you guys hear about how Youtube is starting a streaming service? I know that doesn't sound all that amazing, but it can be a really good way to more get people to know about Project M. A lot more people go to Youtube as opposed to Twitch or UStream. Food for thought.
I don't really play GDubs though so eh.
Did you guys hear about how Youtube is starting a streaming service? I know that doesn't sound all that amazing, but it can be a really good way to more get people to know about Project M. A lot more people go to Youtube as opposed to Twitch or UStream. Food for thought.
Revven
FrankerZ
It's not a nerf when if you actually use his DACUS to follow through as a techchase for an amazingly low KO.
And yes, Uthrow is pretty damn near close to Melee Dthrow in functionality BTW.
That requires a read and it's primarily for KO'ing purposes, though. His old dthrow had a lot of guaranteed set-ups (low% cg, throw -> aerial) and I don't think G&W has a problem with KO'ing.
I must admit I haven't really played around with G&W's uthrow, though, if it does work like that then it's neat, but then again it also makes him lose a higher % cg on spacies. :x
Juushichi
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I don't know if it's better in 2.5 (didn't use it when I played with Reflex on Sat morning) but a lot of characters were able to jump out in 2.1. It was not good.
There are a few setups for DACUS for GnW in 2.1., but dthrow was not really one of them. I don't believe anyone who plays GnW extensively would mind keeping all of his throws back from Melee, haha. But, idk. Only like 6 people play Game and Watch in this game anyway.
There are a few setups for DACUS for GnW in 2.1., but dthrow was not really one of them. I don't believe anyone who plays GnW extensively would mind keeping all of his throws back from Melee, haha. But, idk. Only like 6 people play Game and Watch in this game anyway.
abcool
Smash Ace
Can someone tell me the music used on FD in this match: http://youtu.be/NgD7Op53_zA
Sadly, I can name a couple characters that have less mains. (to my knowledge)
Unless you mean overall players, (mains/secondaries) cuz that'd be sad if that's what you ment...
Sir Combee
Smash Apprentice
That is "Crisis" from Xenoblade Chronicles. JCaesar has good taste in music when it comes to Xenoblade.
And for the purpose of staying on topic, I'm personally hoping one of the new updates will be about the new stages. That competitive Norfair that I think Monk was working on needs to be put in. It looked like a really interesting stage layout when I saw the preview a long time ago.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
Axcel made a more competition friendly Norfair as well. It's like an elongated battlefield with a hole in the central platform. Looks like it'll make for amazing edge-platform play. I think PMBR should take a good look at it tbh.
EDIT: I, too, am looking forward to stage changes. Helps keep the game feeling fresh.
EDIT: I, too, am looking forward to stage changes. Helps keep the game feeling fresh.
abcool
Smash Ace
Thanks A lot, Sir Combee. I hope they announce a new character and talk about phyiscs changes because waiting all week just to see a new character and not knowing what changed with the game engine isn't really as hyped as it should be. Back then they made both public not just characters.
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