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I'm around that level of play as well but I've been around the block a few times. I'd need to know how you guys play. Besides, watching P:M is fun.
I was having fun.
Eeeww Wifi
Still fun.
Ewww, not playing anything but CPUs.
That too is Eeeww. Why would you do either of those... Don't have irl people to play against? Commit suicide. It's that simple.
The people on wifi are better than me so it actually makes it interesting.
Laggy P:M with people > no P:M at all.
agreed. It's limiting but once you get use to it it's not too different from playing on a laggy T.V. Which I've done before.Lol, tonight was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. Thanks guys
Laggy P:M with people > no P:M at all.
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So you're going to nerf him right?
That is false, there's simply nothing you can do when you get comboed ACROSS the stage with GOOD DI!
No input lag is negligible.
Well I don't mean to toot my own horn, but the last match where I played a spacie I only SD'd once.
What makes you think he hasn't tried that already? Kage's never the type to whine about something. If he's complaining, that means he's tried everything he can, and come to the conclusion that there's nothing he can do.
It's not whining, it's the truth. A warrior follows the road of truth, not ignorance or delusions. I have to know exactly what went wrong and then yes I can try to figure out how to make my mental stamina better but as a Ganon main the likelihood of doing that is extremely tough because I'm bound to fight sets of 5 games all the time vs players my level. (During the Top 6 of P:M and Top 8 of Melee FC, I fought wayyy too many like that and that kills your focus.) And also I know this matchup like the back of my hand and it's also my favorite matchup in the game. Even if people say they dont understand how I do or they think the matchup is impossible for Ganon, I'm still able to beat pretty much any Falcon mains if I play it right. The general precision I normally have just wasn't there that time because I thought too much of the outcome and getting revenge vs Darkrain lol. I wasn't level headed at all, I wanted it too much.
No it's not, usually you can escape. I know how to SDI goddamn it!!
I'm not saying you don't, but, it's not just a foregone conclusion. Even if it were, the tradeoff of being a great character (which Ganondorf is pretty much unanimously considered in P:M) in Melee (or Melee 2.0, as it were), is that you get comboed to Hell and back. It's kind of the rules.
I was still in CA for my summer internship haha, I would've loved to go to FC. I think Vro is better than me though; I do more QD stuff than he does, but Vro is much smarter and is much more efficient (ex. he uses DTilt and FSmash for edgeguards). Considering that he has much more experience than I do and still choked against Hungrybox, I probably would've choked in the top 6 pools because of all the big name players.metroidddd
Y U NO COME TO FC?
You probably woulda won, considering you're (apparently) better than Vro, and Vro kinda choked against HBox in GFs.
Jeez, it's crazy how people (coughikeplayerscough) who were never "Mango/HBox/Armada/PP-level" in melee are contesting top melee players in PM. =P
Granted, it's early in the metagame, but the top melee players are the top melee players for a reason. I'll bring up Metroid going even with Fly in those friendlies and Vro dominating the top6 pools as examples.
Lol Ike =P
Come to Apex!
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either post videos of YOU exploiting good Ike players...or stop telling veteran players to stop telling veteran players to get better
I have an idea that I'll test when I get the chance...Stay tuned for more information and a video if it works.
I don't know what Reflex has in mind, but here are some ideas that I've had success with when testing Ike's recovery. For high Aethers, you can beat it out with (very) well-spaced FAirs, UAirs, and BAirs. For low Aethers (edge-level or lower), you can try stomping or edgehogging. However, if you go for the edgehog, you must grab the edge as Ike throws his sword. This may seem unreasonable, but considering how people have gotten accustomed to edgehogging Marth (who has a slower up+B), it's not that bad once you get used to the timing. The only time you'll get spiked is if you time it too early, otherwise the ascending hits of Aether should pop you up and out of the descending spike hitbox. If you manage to grab the edge as Ike's sword is going upward, you can drop from the edge, UAir, then double-jump and up+B; if done properly, Ike should jump right into the reverse hit of the UAir. For video demonstrations on hitting Ike out of Aether, you can reference this video for high Aethers (Ganon isn't in there, but hopefully it'll give you ideas on the timing; even attacks like Falco's DAir can hit Ike out of Aether) and this video for low Aethers.
