Project M Social Thread

[Youngling]

True, but is was Shonic :|



Fair deal.

Ooopssss my b

 

[Kink-Link5]

So like, I'd totally be for changing the credits to PMBR members.

 

[Wolfy!]

^ This.

10thises

 

[Ecks]

Aren't the credits only shown after you beat SSE? I don't think anybody will ever see them if that's the case.

 

[GunBlaze]

Aren't the credits only shown after you beat SSE? I don't think anybody will ever see them if that's the case.

You can count ther will be some.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I want to add us after the original developer credits. It may go by fast, but it'll be the part everyone pauses on when someone UL's the new credits on YT.

 

[Ecks]

Not a bad idea EY. Still, nobody will see them though.

GunBlaze you're Dominican? I'm from the Dominican Republic too! Don't live there anymore though.

 

[GunBlaze]

Not a bad idea EY. Still, nobody will see them though.

GunBlaze you're Dominican? I'm from the Dominican Republic too! Don't live there anymore though.

There will be some who will. I would.

A ver dame una prueba de semejante afirmación... no todos los dias te encuentras un dominicano aqui...

 

[RaphaelRobo]

So, I've been messing around with Ness and Lucas, and there's one thing that really bugs me. I know that in order to do a full DJ while doing an aerial you have to hold X or Y. The problem I have is I ledgehop using the control stick, and the full DJ doesn't work while holding the control stick up. Was this an oversight, or was it intentional?

 

[GunBlaze]

So, I've been messing around with Ness and Lucas, and there's one thing that really bugs me. I know that in order to do a full DJ while doing an aerial you have to hold X or Y. The problem I have is I ledgehop using the control stick, and the full DJ doesn't work while holding the control stick up. Was this an oversight, or was it intentional?

Wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional

 

[Ecks]

There will be some who will. I would.

A ver dame una prueba de semejante afirmación... no todos los dias te encuentras un dominicano aqui...

Oh yeah, I forgot P:M SSE is actually good! My bad!

Si, es en serio. Nadie me cree cuando les digo que soy dominicano. Es que no lo parezco. >_>

 

[RaphaelRobo]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional

I'm not sure why, though. Anyone who doesn't want that to happen could just disable Tap Jump. It seems more likely it was either an oversight, or something they weren't able to do.

 

[GunBlaze]

Oh yeah, I forgot P:M SSE is actually good! My bad!

Si, es en serio. Nadie me cree cuando les digo que soy dominicano. Es que no lo parezco. >_>

Estas en Smashboards! A ver quien te va a creer!

 

[Ecks]

I'm not sure why, though. Anyone who doesn't want that to happen could just disable Tap Jump. It seems more likely it was either an oversight, or something they weren't able to do.

They probably didn't think of adding that. The thought of using rising aerials with the stick sounds like horrible torture to me.

Estas en Smashboards! A ver quien te va a creer!

Nah, I mean in real life. La gente piensa que soy americano porque hablo inglés y además tengo la piel blanca.

 

[GunBlaze]

They probably didn't think of adding that. The thought of using rising aerials with the stick sounds like horrible torture to me.



Nah, I mean in real life. La gente piensa que soy americano porque hablo inglés y además tengo la piel blanca.

 

[standardtoaster]

I'm not sure why, though. Anyone who doesn't want that to happen could just disable Tap Jump. It seems more likely it was either an oversight, or something they weren't able to do.

Having the control stick do rising aerials would seriously screw up DJCs.

 

[Jolteon]

We can certainly look into it, thank you for your feedback! Glad you're enjoying PM =)

Awesome! It's great to hear that the UK Melee players are enjoying PM. You guys able to use Sonic & Snake yet? XD

We're really enjoying P:M as a whole, we have a load of people interested in it and most play different chars so it's really fresh/exciting for us.

I ***** that garbage Wolf in tourney though.

Nah jk prof <3 you got me in GF set 2. -,-

 

[hotdogturtle]

No mention of the messed up jump they had too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R-DPu-_9Hs

So Pokemon Trainer somehow got into the match? How did that happen, some sort of glitch with loading files? Or was it a glitch with the independent Pokemon code?

 

[standardtoaster]

It's a glitch with independent pokemon on wifi for guests.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

Having the control stick do rising aerials would seriously screw up DJCs.

Wouldn't that only be the case if they did a Uair? You could use the Cstick to do everything except Nair while rising with the control stick. Like I said, if people never use that to jump, they can just disable Tap Jump, so I'm not really sure how it would screw up DJCs.

 

[MaxThunder]

you can't really do super fast DJC uairs with the c-stick...

 

[JCaesar]

You can if you claw.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

Or if you do the jump with the control stick. And I'm assuming disabling Tap Jump would get rid of the whole Uair with the control stick problem. It's a change that wouldn't affect the people who don't want it on, and would be a lot nicer for people who ledgehop using the control stick. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that.

How difficult is the timing for the DJC Uair with the Cstick? Is it like Marth's double Fair, or something?

 

[Fly_Amanita]

A couple new videos:

Ness v. Fox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx4RhN4ggTg
Miscellaneous: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WBOsFhJx14

edit @above: SH double fair with Marth with the C-stick is really easy. Doing a quick uair after a double jump with the C-stick is considerably harder.

 

[MaxThunder]

Illuminati. These aren't the AI you're looking for.

woah i don't even know how i quoted this...

Or if you do the jump with the control stick. And I'm assuming disabling Tap Jump would get rid of the whole Uair with the control stick problem.

How difficult is the timing for the DJC Uair with the Cstick? Is it like Marth's double Fair, or something?

if you don't use the control stick to jump, then i'd be really impressed if someone managed to do really fast DJC uairs that way... would have to do it way faster than double fair... and if you could do DJ uairs with the control stick, then i think the timing could be kinda tricky...

 

[RaphaelRobo]

You probably clicked multiquote, or something.

And yeah, double Fair is fairly easy, but one of the harder Cstick aerials to pull off. Whenever I use Ness and DJC, I usually do the second jump with the control stick so I can use the Cstick for aerials. Well, I try to, and then it fails and I die, and then I remember that I can't do that.

EDIT @Magus: Yeah, I figured there was probably a problem like that due to the stupid way Brawl reads the Cstick. After the other responses, though, it sounded like that wasn't the problem. I guess I'l just have to ledgehop/DJC, then switch to X or Y and attack using A. That's going to be a pain.

 

[Magus420]

Most people DJC with tap jump + c-stick. Even if it weren't a major inconvenience for those people to do what you're suggesting, it's also impossible because if you c-stick any aerial besides u-air while holding up it will release up for that frame and DJC anyway. It's the same reason you SH with tap jump if you press the c-stick in a direction that is not up during jump squat.

 

[kaizo13]

lol chudat needs to practice more project m. Hope he keeps playing Lucario

 

[JCaesar]

He gave up on Lucario after that set haha. He seemed a bit thrown off without ICs or Kirby to fall back on (among some other things that happened that night). With some practice though he'd probably be wrecking everybody.

 

[ELI-mination]

I have a lot of trouble adjusting to the DJC in this game tbh. I quickly double tap the jump button to do it and sometimes I use A while other times I use the C-stick to do attacks. I never had any issues doing it in Melee at all. Now it's very inconsistent for me.... I do it correctly like 75% of the time, and it screws me up a lot. Especially since sometimes I fear the mistake and try something else when I shouldn't.

 

[stingers]

it's better in the long run. the availability of rising aerials is better than messing up your DJCs every now and then. you'll get used to it eventually. and when you do, you can do the same thing in melee and it won't affect anything, which is nice.

also, sup y'all

 

[Wolfy!]

I DJC uairs using Y and the C-stick all the time (without clawing). :I
It's not THAT hard...

 

[Haloedhero]

They didn't mean it was difficult to djc an uair with the cstick, they meant it's much easier to do it quickly using other methods, like clawing, because your thumb doesn't have to move all the way from the jump button to the cstick, which costs you valuable frames.

In short: not harder to do. Harder to do as fast.

 

[ELI-mination]

I don't "claw" when I play, I never did, and I never had any problem DJCing in Melee. I got it 100% of the time. Now I feel hesitant to use characters like Ness in Project M because of the DJC feeling awkward to me.

In this match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-f78U-tYPY I'm trying to use Ness here. I clearly mess up the DJC and clearly do it consistently well for a short amount of time, several times.
Messing up at 0:16, 1:18, 1:55, 2:31, 3:00, 3:50, 4:38. Sometimes there isn't a consequence, sometimes there is. But overall it messes up my whole style and mindgames. I don't know for sure if I'm gonna be close to the ground or go stupidly floating upwards, and that uncertainty causes my hesitation and slowness. If you look, you can see that I start resorting to short hop fairs because I know where they're gonna go, lol.

 

[jalued]

I have a lot of trouble adjusting to the DJC in this game tbh. I quickly double tap the jump button to do it and sometimes I use A while other times I use the C-stick to do attacks. I never had any issues doing it in Melee at all. Now it's very inconsistent for me.... I do it correctly like 75% of the time, and it screws me up a lot. Especially since sometimes I fear the mistake and try something else when I shouldn't.

I find DJC to very simple and fast if done in this method:

press x or y to initially jump, then quickly press up on the control stick and immediately input and aerial on the c-stick. And if you want to do a rising aerial (not djc), just hold A and use the x/y button to jump again, because then you can hold the jump

basically:
DJC = cstick
rising aerial = A

The only thing i find hard to do quickly is DJC nairs


Btw, ganon cannot do SH upairs to pressure people on the lower platform of YS ala melee, he teleports onto the platform. I hope this can be fixed eventually

 

[Haloedhero]

Eli, you never had a problem in melee, because rising aerials weren't an option. You couldn't NOT djc in Melee. Now you have the option. To djc, you have to let go of jump right when/before you do the aerial. In Melee, this didn't exist, and you always djced...

Yes, it's harder than doing it in melee until you get used to it, but that's because we added an option for you, so it's better in the long run.

 

[ELI-mination]

I know. It totally messes me up regardless. I used to like Ness.

 

[Haloedhero]

If you take the time to get used to it, it'll become second nature, and you won't have any trouble.

 

[FireBall Stars]

I guess I'm the only guy that does djc pressing Y two times while using the aerials with the analog stick and A.


yay halo, high five!

 

[Haloedhero]

No, I do, fbs. Lol.

High five!

Medium five.