Project M Social Thread

[WiyamMang]

Oh yeah, I'm looking to recruit a few additional coders for a few advanced changes. I require people versed in PSA & Brawlbox animation editing to add to the team.

I can't help but I certainly like to watch the going-ons. Any room for spectators?

 

[sffadsad]

I don't mind being able to walljump with X or Y, but the way wall jumping works right now makes it pretty much impossible to use you double jump when next to a wall. If possible, could the distance between the wall and the character be shortened so that you have to actually have to touch the wall before being able to initiate a walljump?

 

[jalued]

I think in Brawl, when it comes to walljumping, the joystick is more sensitive.

Also, in Melee, you couldn't walljump with X or Y. You had to tap the joystick. That makes "scar jumping" a lot easier in Brawl+/P:M compared to Melee.

I'm sure that you could use x and y, however needed to hold away from the stage

 

[kaizo13]

i say death to walljumping with y/x. We are trying to make P:M resemble Melee as much as possible with the exception of the (few) better aspects that Brawl gives, And walljumping with y/x is not one of them. (and that's not an opinion)

For those saying that you got used to walljumping with y/x already, you got many options to choose from.....vbrawl / bbrawl / brawl+ / brawl-

 

[Kix]

I thought you could wall jump with X or Y. I never used up for jump.

 

[JCaesar]

In Melee you could only walljump by being right next to a wall and smashing the stick away from the wall.

I have a bigger problem with the current hypersensitivity of stick tilting in the Brawl engine than I do with X/Y walljumping, but that's just me.

 

[GHNeko]

In Melee you could only walljump by being right next to a wall and smashing the stick away from the wall.

I have a bigger problem with the current hypersensitivity of stick tilting in the Brawl engine than I do with X/Y walljumping, but that's just me.

Pretty much this. I've done more accidental wall jumps with the stick than with the Jump Button. :/

I say chalk it up to buffer and input timing, cuz this isnt really that widespread of a problem.

 

[DotheDiddyMonkeyDance]

I know its a bit off question but how are Thethers going to work in this version since in Melee characters thethers well Link and Samus's could hit any part of the stage. Just figured its a good question to ask. I however wouldn't mind if you guys could implement Balanced Brawl thing like where link can do UPB into his hookshot as maybe as a Viable option. Again its just a suggestion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuMJhm4bD-s&feature=player_embedded

 

[V-K]

When will P:M be released?

 

[GP&B]

Wall grabbling is a bit tricky to do.

@V-K, nobody really knows for sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

 

[El Raspa]

When will P:M be released?

no time soon son

 

[Thebest1pj]

Zairs now have 10 frames of landing lag and also go into special fall. They are also capable of being edge canceled.

so samus and tls zairs have been nerfed?

 

[camelot]

^ Yes, but realize that P:M is focusing more on being like Melee (obviously).

It's still much less than Melee's zair land lag, which was 30 frames. Zairs can still be used as actual attacks (except Lucas'), they just aren't quite as good.

 

[iLink]

Am I right to assume that you can aerial glide toss and use zair instead of actually throwing something?

 

[ETWIST51294]

LOL my post count in this thread is 452 posts. I post here too much. Soooooooo, about Wario, does he have a upthrow CG against spacies? Can Marth still CG CF? He shouldn't. >_>

 

[Peek ~]

Can Marth still CG CF? He shouldn't. >_>

why do you say that?

 

[ETWIST51294]

He couldn't in Melee, why should he here?

 

[camelot]

Am I right to assume that you can aerial glide toss and use zair instead of actually throwing something?

Yes, but I'm not sure if it's going to stay that way.

Right now, "aerial glide toss zairs" give a ridiculous amount of momentum, making it Link's (and maybe Samus') fastest form of horizontal movement, and having some weird recovery uses.

The reason the momentum thing isn't an issue with aerial glide tossing (with an item) is because the momentum boost stops at the end of the animation.

With a zair out of an air dodge, though, the momentum stays because the animation is so much longer.

This'll give you an idea of how far you can go:

Imagine that is Final Destination. Blue arrow is Link's jump, red arrow is him zair-ing out of a diagonally upwards air dodge.

I don't think it goes quite as far as in the picture, but you get the idea.

 

[Deleted member]

You might want to keep that technique for Link (If you're saying that it is broken =x). It might be worth testing longer with his wavedash, moonwalk, AGT, and that Zair AGT.

Is it possible to modify Link's moonwalk so it goes almost as far as Falcon's?

I could see Link being decent offstage with his Bair and Nair for edgeguarding and gimping then tethering or up-b.

Same goes for his wavedash. A decent wavedash on link the length of say, Melee Mario/Marth would probably do him some good.

 

[shanus]

He couldn't in Melee, why should he here?

You seem to forget that weight is now factored into throw knockback in brawl...... and that is something that will likely *never* get fixed

 

[Wiggins]

So, this has peaked my interests.... Is there any idea when this might be released? I wouldn't mind actually finding a copy of brawl and a wii just to see if this is going to be as fun as melee.

 

[SonioNineteen]

Can I have a list of the characters that are currently finished

plz

 

[JCaesar]

Characters that are currently finished:

 

[GHNeko]

+1 rep JC z

 

[Turbo Ether]

This project is literally the only reason I still own a Wii. Can't wait to try it.

 

[GP&B]

Characters that are currently finished:

Wait, wait, wait, I need to update that for you. They did some stuff recently.

Characters that are currently finished:

There we go.

 

[WiyamMang]

Not to be finicky about this and all but technically when would a character be sufficiently "complete"? After all, we've been spending so much like deliberating on footstools, wall jumps, etc. along with dissenting opinions on how a character should behave. All you need is one person calling BS because Mario's cape doesn't auto-kill and you'd have quite a few people rallying it up for Mario to be changed again.

I think the real question is "Are there any characters that can be played adequately at the moment?"

 

[Dingding123]

^^Ever played World of Warcraft? Guess how many patches there are. I don't know either, but it's the sole reason why it takes so freaking long to install, lol they're all because the game constantly needs fixing and tweaking in one way or another in order for it to be as balanced as possible. I think that characters will never be fully 'complete', but will possibly constantly be buffed or nerfed in an attempt to balance them out with the other characters after its release.

Referring to the somewhat recent ganon moveset discussion...

Have we all come to an agreement that either:

a.) warlock punch becomes chargeable and utilt becomes the most powerful move in the game, or
b.) utilt becomes useful and warlock punch becomes the most powerful move in the game.

...?

 

[Shadic]

Not to be finicky about this and all but technically when would a character be sufficiently "complete"? After all, we've been spending so much like deliberating on footstools, wall jumps, etc. along with dissenting opinions on how a character should behave. All you need is one person calling BS because Mario's cape doesn't auto-kill and you'd have quite a few people rallying it up for Mario to be changed again.

Hi. Welcome to game development. Tons of changes go in, even after things are relatively stable. We don't just want the game working on release. We want it working well.

Not to mention this topic doesn't necessarily reflect what's actually going on behind the scenes, and it's incredibly easy to just ignore the idiots.

I think the real question is "Are there any characters that can be played adequately at the moment?"

Most.

 

[melic67]

If you guys need any help with animations or something like that I can help. I have had quite some time in brawlbox. I have been waiting for this for a long time.

 

[kaizo13]

*attempts to summon JC for an epic stream

 

[WiyamMang]

Hi. Welcome to game development. Tons of changes go in, even after things are relatively stable. We don't just want the game working on release. We want it working well.

Not to mention this topic doesn't necessarily reflect what's actually going on behind the scenes, and it's incredibly easy to just ignore the idiots.

Welllllllll, I didn't imply that the project's not doing well. I trust that the characters we want are going to be adequate enough when it comes out.

 

[Turazrok]

Shanus if I had a SC2 beta key.. which I might... could I get a beta of this (:

epic same time post

 

[kaizo13]

@Turazrok

you're a bit late there buddy

 

[Pen_island]

Is light shielding going to be in this game?
Will captain falcon be as awesome as he is in melee?

 

[samsonites101]

I doubt light shielding will be in because I don't think Brawl recognizes when the L or R button is pressed part way. It only registers once it's fully pressed. Not 100% sure so someone else confirm this.

 

[samsonites101]

actually, I think im wrong cause I noticed there's now a code that registers soft shoulder button presses (says on the first page). That's awesome.

 

[skrach8]

are u going to be able to pressure shields in this game like melee.

better question is there going to be more hit/shield stun in this game?

 

[Pen_island]

Good, slamming that shield button used to screw me up a lot whenever I played brawl.

I'm just going to assume that Project M Falcon is great since the people making this project seem so hard set on making this as similar to melee as possible and since Falcon is the embodiment of why melee is fun.

 

[vectorace]

any hint of a livestream tonight cause that would make my horrible day better