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[Gamegenie222]

Any game with people can turn from an hour or 2 into hyperbolic time chamber time if the game is fun enough with it's multiplayer.

 

[KayB]

Super Mario 3D World for example.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

What could be done about MK's recovery? I can't really think of anything other than his glide being changed/removed.

Even without the glide, it would still be strong. His reverse up b is straight god like. I think the PMBR would have to tryhard to nerf his recovery.

 

[Saito]

Any game with people can turn from an hour or 2 into hyperbolic time chamber time if the game is fun enough with it's multiplayer.

Dokapon kingdom.

 

[Ripple]

I'm going to try getting records for all the btt.

here's my first attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXYYMeJ7uI

 

[Soft Serve]

I'm going to try getting records for all the btt.

here's my first attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXYYMeJ7uI

Gigabowser down B

breaks all of them in first level in .83 sec. not sure if you knew about it

 

[Ripple]

records for each character.

also, beat it again. lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrtMy4qzLw&feature=youtu.be

 

[trash?]

I think MK's recovery mixups are kind of one of his quirks? so I'd just make the glide REALLY punishing when you try to move back up with it, so he can't try to under-stage shenanigans and has to use all of his moves properly

also nerf the hell out of his dthrow, and then maybe make uthrow not useless to compensate? like not good enough to where it becomes the new dthrow, but it's too cool-looking of a move to be as utterly useless as it is rn

then you just make it so dair is unsafe and then he has to care abt projectiles and it's all peaches

armchair balancing, my fav

 

[Saxophoneoftime]

Had a tourney yesterday; completely choked my first set, ended up losing. Won my second set against a Wario; lost my third set to a Link but it was super close. The Link player a cool guy.

I need to learn Neon's shield pressure; like how does that guy do it?

 

[GrosMinou]

For MK, I think it would be fine if they changed it so he can't attack during his glide. and maybe take out the tornado as a recovery option.

 

[Soft Serve]

Had a tourney yesterday; completely choked my first set, ended up losing. Won my second set against a Wario; lost my third set to a Link but it was super close. The Link player a cool guy.

I need to learn Neon's shield pressure; like how does that guy do it?

He grows a third hand out of his stomach to help press buttons.

Years of spacie pressure makes lucas stuff easier, because lucas you can bassically mash out magnet > air magnet > djc fair > magnet repeat. You just do it as fast as you can and it works, as opposeed to spacies having ti choose timings between early and late moves to change the windows of no stun

 

[Arrow (Kyle)]

I think MK's recovery mixups are kind of one of his quirks? so I'd just make the glide REALLY punishing when you try to move back up with it, so he can't try to under-stage shenanigans and has to use all of his moves properly

also nerf the hell out of his dthrow, and then maybe make uthrow not useless to compensate? like not good enough to where it becomes the new dthrow, but it's too cool-looking of a move to be as utterly useless as it is rn

then you just make it so dair is unsafe and then he has to care abt projectiles and it's all peaches

armchair balancing, my fav

This would destroy MK. He just lost pretty much every tool he has at this point. You're asking for way too much. No character is broken so please stop asking for heavy nerfs on them like they are. One or two small changes to a character will balance the game a lot better than nerfing the **** out of them and making them completely useless and low tier.

 

[mtmaster]

You mean like this?

But better?

Actually yeah almost exactly like that as a matter of fact .

 

[Professor Gravy]

I think MK's recovery mixups are kind of one of his quirks? so I'd just make the glide REALLY punishing when you try to move back up with it, so he can't try to under-stage shenanigans and has to use all of his moves properly

also nerf the hell out of his dthrow, and then maybe make uthrow not useless to compensate? like not good enough to where it becomes the new dthrow, but it's too cool-looking of a move to be as utterly useless as it is rn

then you just make it so dair is unsafe and then he has to care abt projectiles and it's all peaches

armchair balancing, my fav

dair is already pretty unsafe unless you ledge cancel it and uthrow is his best throw in teams down throw might need some nerfs so you can't just techchase on reaction till 70% but thats about it.

 

[mtmaster]

I just read about the changes they are going to make to PM 3.5, and I a sure I am not the only one that is worried about just how big a change the recoveries will have. Part of me feels like it will not be that bad, and the other part of me feels like it might be too excessive lol. I'm worried as while that seems to be a big complaint from a lot of people, I think the community complains about everything when they don't know how to deal with something well enough lol.

 

[Huffy]

I just read about the changes they are going to make to PM 3.5, and I a sure I am not the only one that is worried about just how big a change the recoveries will have. Part of me feels like it will not be that bad, and the other part of me feels like it might be too excessive lol. I'm worried as while that seems to be a big complaint from a lot of people, I think the community complains about everything when they don't know how to deal with something well enough lol.

You people are never happy.

 

[GrosMinou]

I just read about the changes they are going to make to PM 3.5, and I a sure I am not the only one that is worried about just how big a change the recoveries will have. Part of me feels like it will not be that bad, and the other part of me feels like it might be too excessive lol. I'm worried as while that seems to be a big complaint from a lot of people, I think the community complains about everything when they don't know how to deal with something well enough lol.

I trust the PMBR, and I know they do extensive testing of every changes they make to the game.

EDIT: or is it PMDT now?

 

[shairn]

This would destroy MK. He just lost pretty much every tool he has at this point. You're asking for way too much. No character is broken so please stop asking for heavy nerfs on them like they are. One or two small changes to a character will balance the game a lot better than nerfing the **** out of them and making them completely useless and low tier.

Making his recovery not overwhelmingly good, removing chaingrabs/too easy tech chases and adding end lag to dair wouldn't make him unviable. He'd still be a good character, only one that can be edge guarded and doesn't wreck you in return.

 

[mtmaster]

You people are never happy.

Don't lump me in with everyone else, personally they've done very little to make me complain. As it stands right now I actually like the game how it is, the only thing I don't hope they do is be too drastic, especially since the game is amazing as is.

I trust the PMBR, and I know they do extensive testing of every changes they make to the game.

Of course I trust them, but I can't help but be a little nervous ya know lol? I think more than likely the change will be an over all thing that probably won't be all that bad.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

You people are never happy.

"How dare everyone not have a positive or neutral outlook on this development!? Everyone should be positive or they don't deserve to have their voice heard!"

Sorry, but that's pretty much all I can hear whenever someone has the nerve to say "You people are never happy." regardless of what subject it is.

Well, unless it's in regards to the Sonic fanbase, in which case, it's 100% accurate but we won't get into that.

I just read about the changes they are going to make to PM 3.5, and I a sure I am not the only one that is worried about just how big a change the recoveries will have. Part of me feels like it will not be that bad, and the other part of me feels like it might be too excessive lol. I'm worried as while that seems to be a big complaint from a lot of people, I think the community complains about everything when they don't know how to deal with something well enough lol.

I see the game right now being in a state where edge-guarding is great and recoveries actually do their job and work when you use them right. The announcement seems to want to change recoveries globally and overall, so I'm afraid of things changing form how it is to being that edge-guarding is still great but recoveries might as well not even exist half of the time aka "knock opponent off the stage to win".

Well, that's kinda the basic point of Smash anyway, but I think you get what I mean.

I don't really have any faith in the PMBR at all, but it's not like I think they're a bunch of mindless lunatics save for Shadic who wouldn't be nearly as entertaining if he was anything else. When it comes to custom content, new modes and new abilities, they deliver spot on. When it comes to tweaking and balancing characters for the next release on the other hand...I personally feel they leave a lot to be desired on many aspects. But hey, they're only human. Not like I expect anything to be perfect.

I'm just wondering if I'm really going to have any reason or desire to play 3.5 over 3.0. I'm no seeing much of a reason to so far, but that'll change overtime, hopefully. If anything, the only real disappointment for me in this announcement is that the next release is 3.5 and not 4.0.

Seriously, all of this time gone by and we've only moved up by .5? What happened? Did we get lost? ¦D

Or is the plot twist that thee isn't going to be a "4.0" and the actual 4th version will become the mostly finalized/gold/standard version?

 

[CORY]

3.2 to 3.5 isn't a large change, so most likely the changes aren't huge and it was just worded ambiguously to get people riled up. (or worded ambiguously on purpose, to build hype, then people read too much into it?).

a 4.0 is going to be a large change, most likely. like, we added a new character or managed to make melee tethers differentiable from brawl tethers (though that could even be a decimal addition). the fact that they're taking this long to put out a smaller version change is good overall, since it means that the development cycle for this beta test (remember this, guys. we're playing a beta version) is in a good spot. they're always going to tweak something somewhere until the final build, but the tweaks seem to be getting less crazy (except for sonic. poor sonic is just made of crazy polarizing traits : /)

 

[GrosMinou]

3.2

It's actually 3.02.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

also nerf the hell out of his dthrow, and then maybe make uthrow not useless to compensate? like not good enough to where it becomes the new dthrow, but it's too cool-looking of a move to be as utterly useless as it is rn

His uthrow has uses at low and high percent.

then you just make it so dair is unsafe and then he has to care abt projectiles and it's all peaches

Just CC it BAKA
His dair isn't even good unless, it's in a combo, you don't CC it like a n00b or he's using it to get back to the stage.

 

[trash?]

ah, but here's the thing: the reason I picked those moves in particular is because they all specifically cover what are supposed to be his weaknesses perfectly. he should do bad against projectiles, but dair gives him more than enough of a mobility boost to just work around anything thrown around him. he COULD have CC issues, except his grab is amazing and all the damage he can get off of dthrow tech chasing negates any need to care about it. by just taking note of those moves in particular, he goes from being top 5 best character in the game to just being pretty good with issues, without touching his core strengths

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Oh. My. God.
https://twitter.com/JonTronShow/status/495783251961585668
Amazing how the use of that word has cause SJWs to start an international incident with Jon.
Just amazing.

Don't try to read all of the replies, it just keeps going like Bowser's endless stairs in Peach's Castle.

It's like they don't care that the word has a meaning that has been in use for a very long time.
https://www.google.com/search?q=***...:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb

It eventually led Jon to put out this:
http://n.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s2sdiu

and yet they continue to complain.

 

[Hinichii.ez.™]

Mk isn't top 5
Top 10 yea.
Top 5 is probably this
M2, pit, diddy, fox and maybe mario or something like that

 

[Bryonato]

I trust the PMBR, and I know they do extensive testing of every changes they make to the game.

EDIT: or is it PMDT now?

It's PMDT now.

 

[GrosMinou]

BRAP BRAP, First to break the news!

 

[arcticfox8]

It's PMDT now.

PMDT sounds lame tho
PMBR y

 

[GP&B]

It eventually led Jon to put out this:
http://n.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s2sdiu

and yet they continue to complain.

Huge props to Jon for being real with them. They don't deserve apologies.

 

[trash?]

you missed the part where jon compared himself at one point to gaza, and immediately was "appalled" at a palestinian considering him a bit of a prick for that

jon pretty much just blew an entire PR disaster within the timespan of a few hours. I wish I could ruin myself that quickly, that was like world-record pace

 

[Empyrean]

Wait did they really change their name from PMBR to PMDT???!? Wtf??! Now it sounds like some timezone **** thing, maybe "pacific-maritime daytime". Or maybe even "project m department truck".

 

[alex6309]

I like cosplay

 

[SpiderMad]

Pacific Marine Dental Time

What was wrong with Back Room?

 

[Rᴏb]

maybe it's so we can have a proper backroom with knowledgeable players rather than just developers

 

[Spiffykins]

JonTron messed up. Many of the people responding to him were less offended than he was at simply being contradicted. He acted like a child and deserves his PR disaster.

inb4 umbreon busts in and complains about PCness or whatever and just says nobody should ever be offended by anything

 

[arcticfox8]

While I don't appreciate that use of the word "********", he obviously wasn't attacking anybody with his use of it. I'm not going to say it was okay, but it definitely wasn't worth that fuss.

 

[trash?]

honestly I didn't pay much attention to w/e original thing he said but, like I said, dude dug a hole all the way through the core in what I guess was a failed attempt to save face

y'all need a thesaurus in your life. or a good way of making obscene comparisons when insulting. every problem can be solved with those two things

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Dokapon kingdom.

Warning, you won't hate losing in any other game MORE than you'll hate losing in this game. This has brought the worst out of my friends and family.

Unrelated:

 

[Meme]

So that became a thing...

JonTron messed up. Many of the people responding to him were less offended than he was at simply being contradicted. He acted like a child and deserves his PR disaster.

inb4 umbreon busts in and complains about PCness or whatever and just says nobody should ever be offended by anything

I found it sort of funny after googling this...

re·tard·ed
riˈtärdid/
adjective

1. less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.