Project M Social Thread Gold

[HyperrCrow]

PMBR getting warnings? It's getting real out here man.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Need a kick to the face to wake up you and this gif will sure service that.
Also sorry for derailing the topic

This thread goes off topic for Pokémon discussions every other day and Attack on Titan is also a big discussion starter, so I wouldn't feel too bad about it.

 

[Giygacoal]

Guess I need to post the counter graph now:

Spoiler

"Hurr I'm a dog!"

That graph was made by a person who doesn't really understand character design, nor that there are hundreds of significantly different types of the same kinds of animals in real life... an awful person with too limited creativity and a relatively narrow mentality.

 

[Plum]

There is a difference between making another Pokemon based on the same animal and another electric type rodent with cheek pouches to store electricity though.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Man, and giving a rock arms is dumb as hell. I hate when people talk about pokemon and get into the designs. I find every generation has good designs AND bad designs, people that shoot down later gens for no/dumb reasons DO bother me though.

Anyway, when will PM have a 20xx pack? I would love to battle against a shield.

 

[Giygacoal]

There is a difference between making another Pokemon based on the same animal and another electric type rodent with cheek pouches to store electricity though.

I agree in that particular case the design is a bit too similar, but
1.Dedenne was necessary because Game Freak doesn't have the guts to turn the Pikachu family (including the main character) into faries even though their egg group suggests it makes sense.
2.Some people out there actually think Beartic is a clone of Ursaring just because they are both bears.
3.There's nothing wrong with having Pokémon that are closely-related. By all means it would make sense biologically and make the world a bit more believable. Is "re-hashing" (for lack of a better term) the best decision for character design in general? No, it's not, but in Pokémon's case, this is supposed to be a world of animals, not just a couple dozen superheroes or something.

 

[Hylian]

@ Hylian
Fun stream, I might be able to come up with more stuff for you next time =) (like Double Shine Up-smash and Wavebounce stuff). Btw Falco's SH Up-air Autocancel (and Marth's SH Bair to any aerial [like Dair]) also isn't possible in Melee I think by 1 frame over his air time; but in PM I think he has 2 frame window or so to do it. (http://smashboards.com/threads/project-m-social-thread-v2.339825/page-536#post-16704456 thanks to Aerodrome for helping me figure out things). You'll have to make a handcam of your technique for non-trick consecutive spacie moonwalks and your double lasers (and @metroid1117 needs to make one for his Dacus using temporary-transitional claw to press A).

Here's the phone links if anyone else wants to try two hard early aerials before I get this comprehensive video I'm makin done (I could really use some help on it =( )

Lucarios SH Fair Dair (±1 frame strict on getting the Bair, then ±1 frame strict on getting the Dair: the trick is to to once you know you've gotten the Fair very early to attempt the Dair way later than you would think. I so wish I would of thought of this to tell Amsa when he was streaming lol. As soon as he knows what to do he can do almost anything with ease, though with this one I wonder if he would have any struggle and how consistent he would get them after practice)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ4XgK69ZiM
Fox's SH Bair Autocancel (1 or 2 frames strict, not possible in Melee). This one wasn't that hard, you just need to wiggle sideways from X to A with your thumb using your wrist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y478Mbgzv0
Marth's SH Bair Dair (1 or 2 frames strict, not possible in Melee)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge25Hj-V6TM

I hate 1 frame windows x.x. BTW I also use the temp claw to dacus. Also that was the first time I tried to do consecutive moonwalks with spacies, could probably get better at if I practiced. The moonwalking/laser stuff is made easier because of how I hold the analog stick. Also I was using the cstick for all of those links, didn't think to try A lol.

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

Need a kick to the face to wake up you and this gif will sure service that.

Also sorry for derailing the topic but I just finished watching the Attack On Titan anime and I'm seriously like WTF at the end and one of my favorite females characters got killed off

Genie all we talk about is pokemon and anime anyways, so you wouldn't really be derailing anything lol. And im guessing your favorite girl was Petra? (only girl I really remember getting axed). If Jean dies im gonna snap ah my gawd. But Eren can go ahead and die ( I really dislike Eren).

 

[Comeback Kid]

Geodude is an awesome design, a rock with arms that actually works out well. His evolution is not as good but evolutions since Gen 1 haven't always been as original as they could have been. I would redo a number of evolutions and baby forms.

I would say every single base Pokémon design in Gen 1 is pretty awesome though, even Diglett just because he is so meme worthy and inspired Mr. Resetti.

 

[Giygacoal]

evolutions since Gen 1 haven't always been as original as they could have been. I would redo a number of evolutions and baby forms.

What arbitrary judgment.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Your right Flowteau, I am being too hard on Gen 1, I just wanted to show how nonbiased a Genwun supporter can be.

Sprouting two extra heads like Magneton or Dugtrio isn't very original, neither is a tiny fetus head with Weezing or the small difference that is Poliwrath, call it arbitrary if you want.

 

[9bit]

We get it, you don't care. You don't see me acting like a douche nozzle when MTG talk comes up.

Yeah it must be real tough to hold it all in... all 3 times a year MTG is brought up.

 

[Giygacoal]

Your right Flowteau, I am being too hard on Gen 1, I just wanted to show how nonbiased a Genwun supporter can be.

Sprouting two extra heads like Magneton or Dugtrio isn't very original, neither is a tiny fetus head with Weezing or the small difference that is Poliwrath, call it arbitrary if you want.

Well yeah, I do think that's arbitrary. How often do you see a three headed bird, or anything like Weezing? What exactly do you mean by "isn't very original?" What is your point of reference? I agree Poliwrath is too subtle of a change, especially for a family that's supposed to be based on frogs.

 

[Plum]

Speaking of MtG, I've started building a new Legacy deck.
A brew of my own, a spin on Maverick with Weathered Wayfarer in addition to Knight of the Reliquary to emphasize Dark Depths/Thespian's Stage as a win condition. Though honestly, having eight repeatable tutor effects that can find Wasteland after Wasteland is enough on its own to win a toooon of games in Legacy.
I'm short some of the dual lands at the moment... will probably be a a couple months till I can get them

 

[Comeback Kid]

Well yeah, I do think that's arbitrary. How often do you see a three headed bird, or anything like Weezing? What exactly do you mean by "isn't very original?" What is your point of reference?

They didn't improve those designs I mentioned, they just stuck new heads onto the same design. Evolutions are supposed to be stronger, better more powerful not just freakier and uglier.

You'll have to tell me why you think those designs are improvements or show more power, because I don't see it from any angle.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Genie all we talk about is pokemon and anime anyways, so you wouldn't really be derailing anything lol. And im guessing your favorite girl was Petra? (only girl I really remember getting axed). If Jean dies im gonna snap ah my gawd. But Eren can go ahead and die ( I really dislike Eren).

Yeah it was Petra lol all I gotta say is **** Annie and I feel the same about Jean as well actually . All the other female characters are whatever to OD like Mikasan is whatever but super protective and she's not going anywhere anytime soon cause she's the main female character. Hange is crazy as balls with her research and freaks me out. Krista/Historia IDK much about her unless I read the manga which is on my to do list soon and Sasha is hilariously annoying like Chie from P4A when it comes to food but I will probably get to like more as the series goes on and when I go sit down read the manga.

 

[WIZRD.Pro]

Personally, while I feel like the old gens (gens 1 through 3 and some of 4) had better designs, I don't let that impact what games I play. Sure, I like the earlier pokemon better because they looked simplistic, but I choose Gen 3 Emerald exclusively for 2 reasons:

• Tight knit cast of pokemon. OU tier has just the right amount of pokemon. Not too few to limit choices, but not too many to study.
• Natures and Abilities allow for a nice amount of versatility in strategies.

By the way, anyone know of a good pokemon rom hack/fangame that is really hard? You know like all trainers have 6 pokemon and are build like a tournament team would?

 

[Giygacoal]

They didn't improve those designs I mentioned, they just stuck new heads onto the same design. Evolutions are supposed to be stronger, better more powerful not just freakier and uglier.

You'll have to tell me why you think those designs are improvements or show more power, because I don't see it from any angle.

There's no rule about what can or can't be an evolution. Sugimori just did what he wanted to do, and if you don't like them that's completely fine, but to write them off as unoriginal is... well, arrogant. For Weezing in particular it's clearly supposed to be an ugly kind of cool Pokémon, so he certainly nailed it. In the same vain it's hilarious when people complain that Garbodor sucks BECAUSE it is ugly, which is about as effective of a sentiment as "this demon looks mean" or "this ogre looks dirty." Also I like fetus things lol.

 

[Strong Badam]

PMBR getting warnings? It's getting real out here man.

I swear Shadic watched my posts like a hawk to give me a warning when I made fun of GHNeko's dumb tapatalk message.

 

[Paradoxium]

Yeah it was Petra lol all I gotta say is **** Annie and I feel the same about Jean as well actually . All the other female characters are whatever to OD like Mikasan is whatever but super protective and she's not going anywhere anytime soon cause she's the main female character. Hange is crazy as balls with her research and freaks me out. Krista/Historia IDK much about her unless I read the manga which is on my to do list soon and Sasha is hilariously annoying like Chie from P4A when it comes to food but I will probably get to like more as the series goes on and when I go sit down read the manga.

Don't read this quote its a spoiler

 

[Plum]

:V :V :V :V :V

sent from my taptalk 43658u364983456:V

 

[hotdogturtle]

Uh, what?

https://twitter.com/pidgezero_one/status/464380169701310464

 

[9bit]

Not taking advantage of sweet embedding technology

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Anyway this could be really really interesting if they get it working through your home internet. I might actually try playing online if that's the case!

 

[CORY]

Hange is crazy as balls with her research and freaks me out.

man, hange still dabess.

(there's also the bit where hange might not even be a girl, but i think that's just the author wanting to rile people up)

 

[arcticfox8]

"Garbodor is just a big blob of grossness!"
"What was Muk"
"It's different man! Muk actually works as a design. Garbodor doesn't"
"How"
"......"

 

[Soft Serve]

I turned off sigs a long time ago, is vanilite still in mine? I think its ****ing adorable. Evey gn introduces new pokemon that people have a chance at falling in love with, so i dont mind the newer designs. Gen 6 has some really good ones imo, gen 5 had a lot of iffy ones (some were really lazy, the genies were basically re-colors until they got therian forms)

except garbador, that **** is just trash

 

[Redd]

Uh, what?

https://twitter.com/pidgezero_one/status/464380169701310464

I heard they found a way around the whole wifi-shutting-down thing. Hype =D

 

[Ali Baba 177]

I made a community tier list before, and I am trying to get some votes again as it has 2 months/120 pages so plenty of opinion has changed. If you could take the quick survey below thatd be awesome!

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RWGZZVB

Thanks for your time!

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

I turned off sigs a long time ago, is vanilite still in mine? I think its ****ing adorable. Evey gn introduces new pokemon that people have a chance at falling in love with, so i dont mind the newer designs. Gen 6 has some really good ones imo, gen 5 had a lot of iffy ones (some were really lazy, the genies were basically re-colors until they got therian forms)

except garbador, that **** is just trash

Muk vs garbador, the battle of bad designs lol.

Yeah it was Petra lol all I gotta say is **** Annie and I feel the same about Jean as well actually . All the other female characters are whatever to OD like Mikasan is whatever but super protective and she's not going anywhere anytime soon cause she's the main female character. Hange is crazy as balls with her research and freaks me out. Krista/Historia IDK much about her unless I read the manga which is on my to do list soon and Sasha is hilariously annoying like Chie from P4A when it comes to food but I will probably get to like more as the series goes on and when I go sit down read the manga.

I honestly love all the girls in snk. However Annie has a special place in my heart, she is just so..... Embarrass (I also really like her nose)

Don't read this quote its a spoiler

Honestly it's been a LONG time since the manga showed who ..... said person is, and quite some time since the anime revealed this as well. So it ain't really a spoiler in my book lol.

 

[Saito]

There is a difference between making another Pokemon based on the same animal and another electric type rodent with cheek pouches to store electricity though.

Pikaclones are bad.

While each one may not be bad on it's own the fact that they all have the inspiration for them made just because of Pikachu is bad.

You can try to counter argue with the generic route 1 pokemon but those are still usually significantly different. The bird Pokemon is much more justified because of many noticably different type of birds in different real regions.

Mouses in different real regions may be different but not nearly as much. I guess that's why they all look similar but they literally serve no real purpose other than to serve as a Pikaclone. At least those route 1 pokemon and regional birds have many different uses. Whereas most of the Pikaclones are outclassed by Pikachu with a light ball or Raichu.

 

[TRJV]

I've got a new quote in my sig. One virtual cookie to the first person to tell me what it's from!

 

[Saito]

Muk vs garbador, the battle of bad designs lol.

Muk isn't badly designed.

Garbodor isn't either.

This isn't just because it's trash. Trubbish manages to look all right or even cute to some extent.

Garbodor throws that out of the park and just ended up looking disgusting. Which is fine since it is trash. It's not really a bad design as much as it's intentionally a disgusting design.

 

[Saito]

I've got a new quote in my sig. One virtual cookie to the first person to tell me what it's from!

Feet of Clay.

Virtual Cookies plox.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Garbodor looks more like angry green shrubbery (aka a bush) than a trash heap.

Muk at least looks like the thing it's supposed to be.

 

[TRJV]

Feet of Clay.

Virtual Cookies plox.

Damn that was fast.

 

[CORY]

(I also really like her nose)

weirdo

 

[PillsBuryDopeBoy]

weirdo

Just look at it Cory, its so long and curvaceous. And Annie is just so.....

 

[Bryonato]

Idk the difference between Muk and Garbador for me is that Muk isn't literally garbage. Like, I'm sorry but IT'S LITERALLY A TRASH POKEMON. SERIOUSLY WTF.

Why would you ever make arguments for that.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Meanwhile, sentient sewage is totally cool

 

[KayB]

The design of Dunsparce is clearly the best.

The artistic value on this Pokemon is just riveting. 11/10