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Gen 1 is alright though it's overrated and genwunners swear and cry that it's best region. I'mma post my list again since the last time this occurred.

Gen 2/3/5/4/1/6 in that order

Though I really don't understand all of the gen 3 hate though can someone explain this to me cause I thought it was excellent?

EDIT: And if we wanna talk regions. Orre region for Coliseum/XD gale of Darkness get at me.
 
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I agree RBY really hasn't aged well at all.

Doesn't mean Kanto is a bad region. FireRed and LeafGreen are fantastic.
 
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Are you kidding guys? The mystery of Missingno and the bird type and Mew was awesome.

Looking through the codes with gameshark.

The game's bugginess made it more interesting honestly.
 
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Generation 1 hate comes from the fact that it was the original and people praise it too much for that.
It was "buggy as hell" Which actually pertains to the games and not the generation.


Generation 2 hate comes from the fact that it was a very short game that just seems to have a lot of content because they tacked Kanto right on to it.
Added new types which broke the "purity" of generation 1.

Generation 3 hate comes from the fact that everyone lost their pokemon from the first two generations.
Generation 3 (And they actually mean Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald) has too much water which has too many encounters.
Generation 3 has pokemon designs that were starting to become questionable by gen 1 and 2 player's standards. This is where the notion of "Overdesigned" started to kick in.

Generation 4 hate comes from the fact that the games ingame speed was slow.
The pokemon furthered the notation of "overdesigned"
Lack of fire pokemon.
Lucario.
Evil team's goals getting "too big"

Generation 5 hate comes from the fact of no appearances of older Pokemon (B/W had 0 older generation pokemon in it)
Game freak trying to "force a new generation 1"
A "try hard" story
Linear progression
Trubbish/Garbodoar, Vanillite/Vanillish/Vanilluxe being representative of Game Freak "Running out of ideas"
More notions of "Overdesigning"

Generation 6 hate comes from the fact of too few new pokemon.
Introduction to a new type which many consider was not done properly.
Linear Progression
Supposed Hand holding
Easier game overall
EXP share all
Framerate problems ingame
Lack of post-game content
"Lackluster story" after Black and White (Ironic, isn't it?)
Mega Evolution
Mega Evolutions being given to Pokemon that didn't need them

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Generation 6 isn't even done yet so a lot of the issues that currently exist might be put to rest when Z comes out.
 
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I don't mind the lack of Pokemon in Gen VI, the overall quality of the new Pokemon was very high imo which is refreshing after the past couple generations being a little lackluster. Also, the sheer number of Pokemon is starting to get extremely high, so I don't mind that they slow things down a bit.

The hand holding was SO real though. Biggest complaint about gen VI.
 

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Gens 3, 5, and 6 are my favorites. Almost every complaint about the series made by people that don't play technical is dumb.
I doubt most of the haters are skilled at properly critiquing character design. Also having a lot of Pokemon in a single generation isn't even all that important when you consider that many Pokemon per batch are not fully evolved/not used much by anyone due to being either underpowered or Ubers material, or just not fan favorites for whatever reason. We already have over 700 characters to appreciate (a decent fraction of which are fully evolved); mega evolution is good for reminding people that.
 
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They gave you so many freebies throughout the game, on top of other things that made the game itself excessively easy to play through, even for a Pokemon game.
They gave you a free gen I starter, free Lucario, free Mega Stones (Mega Evolved Pokemon, while conceptually really neat for competitive play [and even then some of the Megas are game breaking in competitive as well] breaks the ingame experience in half) for them, exp all extremely early, etc.
 

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They gave you so many freebies throughout the game, on top of other things that made the game itself excessively easy to play through, even for a Pokemon game.
They gave you a free gen I starter, free Lucario, free Mega Stones (Mega Evolved Pokemon, while conceptually really neat for competitive play [and even then some of the Megas are game breaking in competitive as well] breaks the ingame experience in half) for them, exp all extremely early, etc.
Generation 6 is without a doubt, the easiest pokemon game/generation to date.
 

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They gave you so many freebies throughout the game, on top of other things that made the game itself excessively easy to play through, even for a Pokemon game.
They gave you a free gen I starter, free Lucario, free Mega Stones (Mega Evolved Pokemon, while conceptually really neat for competitive play [and even then some of the Megas are game breaking in competitive as well] breaks the ingame experience in half) for them, exp all extremely early, etc.
I'm not here to justify but to explain.

Mega evolution felt tacked on. Like more of a last minute decision. In regards to the story it was merely mentioned by like 4 different people or so and it didn't feel finished. Having it is fine, but it practically steam rolls the game.

It would of been a better idea to make that endgame content. Along with giving each gym leader and elite 4 a mega evolution which would give the player a desire to obtain that power after seeing how hard it made the ingame battles.

It was missed potential and I can agree that it was badly done.

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The free Pokemon isn't a bad thing really since it's not hard to catch pokemon at all other than legendaries (And the metagross line)

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Ease of gameplay stems from the EXP share mostly. Add in the fact that they seemed to make sure not to give the opponents too many Pokemon and you've got a recipe for ease.

The EXP share was hand holding, the Pokemon amount for trainers was just a bad decision.


I don't think they will do away with the EXP share early on, but I still have hope for the "Megas for all gym leaders and elite 4"
 

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They gave you so many freebies throughout the game, on top of other things that made the game itself excessively easy to play through, even for a Pokemon game.
They gave you a free gen I starter, free Lucario, free Mega Stones (Mega Evolved Pokemon, while conceptually really neat for competitive play [and even then some of the Megas are game breaking in competitive as well] breaks the ingame experience in half) for them, exp all extremely early, etc.
It didn't really bother me to much because even though they gave a gen 1 starter as well as Mega Stone, I just ignored them and played the game as is. It's much more fun that way, and to be fair EXP all made training a lot less tedious (though the memories of tirelessly training your pokemon to be the ideal level would be a missed feeling). Still an easy game, but the fact that you could still play the game in whatever way you wanted made the experience still more fun then people made it out to be.

I mean we can argue about which generation was the best, but in terms of regions I think each one was equally awesome.
Kanto was awesome for being, well, the first region you explored. That makes it special in its own way and I don't think I need to sing its praises.

Johto was awesome because in my opinion it had a somewhat darker and somewhat "older" so to speak than the Kanto region. The eerie atmosphere plus with the new generation of Pokemon made it cool to explore.

Hoenn was awesome because it was the first generation to have more of a diverse landscape despite a healthy amount of it being just water. There were different looking caves as opposed to the brown muddy ones you saw in Gen 1 and Gen 2 and the volcanic area had more detail in landscape than having a few shades of whatever color.

Sinnoh was awesome because that was the generation that Game Freak started to put more detail in the region. In terms of different landscapes and buildings, Gen IV outclassed previous regions substantially. Towns actually looked different (to its credit, Gen III did this to, but I think Gen IV did this better), and different sceneries like the snowy mountain sides to the marsh lands, Sinnoh was a blast to explore and you could get side-tracked a lot. Not only that, but there were a lot of place specific Pokemon (ex. the legendaries like Rotom, the honey trees, the regional stones for Leafeon and Glaceon, and more) making exploration around this scenery even more expansive and enjoyable.

Unova was dope because cities actually looked like cities and there's a ridiculous amount of detail put into routes, ghost houses, cities (and even gyms, since gyms were infamously repetitive in previous generations). The Pokemon league looked awesome, and alternating between inside and outside Victory Road and sliding down whenever you felt like bailing was a nice touch.

Kalos was also cool not because it necessarily had scenery that previous generations lacked, but because it took the best parts of every region and mashed them into one in 3D. This was probably why people didn't feel it was as special since it didn't have anything new per se, but being able to explore new areas in such a different art style made exploring different caves and areas much more different than every other generation and I loved that.
 
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Not many mega evolutions are game breaking, though. There's six, and two are Mewtwo and one is Speed Boost Blaziken, which were already overpowered. I imagine it shouldn't be hard to get a solid counter for Mega Lucario eventually.

Kalos was also cool not because it necessarily had scenery that previous generations lacked, but because it took the best parts of every region and mashed them into one in 3D. This was probably why people didn't feel it was as special since it didn't have anything new per se, but being able to explore new areas in such a different art style made exploring different caves and areas much more different than every other generation and I loved that.
There's still plenty of new stuff in Kalos. Everything is so stylish, including the bad guys.
 
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the honey trees, the regional stones for Lefean and Glaceon, and more) making exploration around this scenery even more expansive and enjoyable.


Not many mega evolutions are game breaking, though. There's six, and two are Mewtwo and one is Speed Boost Blaziken, which were already overpowered. I imagine it shouldn't be hard to get a solid counter for Mega Lucario eventually.
Not really the real problem.

It's more like having a mega evolution at level 30s is like having a legendary right there. It's not good since a lot of the trainers already weren't that strong or challenging. Gym leaders were a breeze too.

As far as the meta-game goes though it's more like a lot of Pokemon that didn't need one got one, or they went overboard with how strong it got afterwards. (Looking at you Khangaskhan)

As for lucario, he has counters. It depends on how he is ran. That's the only reason why he is considered a problem. If you have a solid counter for Physical Lucario, it probably won't work on special lucario and vice versa. Add in the fact that you might have to keep those pokemon on your team Just to stop MLucario makes him problematic.
 
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You and 9bit lol.
And me, kinda.

I love the franchise to pieces(Skyla is unfairly cute, GAH), but it's not a game series I'd get competitive
in, not if I didn't have extra EXTRA loads of free time, backlogs ahoy.

That's not to say I don't think the younger characters are moe(lol two words: disgustingly adorable),
but priorities shift, somewhat.
 

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Just wanted to pop in and say a few things.

1. Naruto, come on now. You saw what happened to Bleach when Aizen was like, "Yeah guys that was all part of my plan I totally foresaw that you're all pawns in my impossibly complex plan lololol."

2. Naruto, stop it, you're not Jesus.

3. Noragami dabes.
 

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Since I can't go to UFGT I'm thinking about going to SKTAR. Man it's been awhile since I've travelled though :/.
 

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Just wanted to pop in and say a few things.

1. Naruto, come on now. You saw what happened to Bleach when Aizen was like, "Yeah guys that was all part of my plan I totally foresaw that you're all pawns in my impossibly complex plan lololol."

2. Naruto, stop it, you're not Jesus.

3. Noragami dabes.
This is why I stopped reading them.
One Piece doe, love reading that to death.
 

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Since I can't go to UFGT I'm thinking about going to SKTAR. Man it's been awhile since I've travelled though :/.
SKTAR is hella stacked and is looking to be the biggest tournament this year before EVO and MLG.

Translation: Pls come and beat everyone who has every doubted you.
 
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SKTAR is hella stacked and is looking to be the biggest tournament this year before EVO and MLG.

Translation: Pls come and beat everyone who has every doubted you.
Need to figure out housing, how to get to tournament from newark airport, and how to get back to airport x.x.
 

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I hate some of nerfs that came with 6th gen
How is my ferrothorn getting hurt by some stupid dark moves???
I can understand the nerf to weather, my weather team was illin around the top of smogon ou.
I hate that nerf.
 
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No more Youtube uploads 'til we pay his taxes and rent.
PMDepot would have some amazing stuff if I got some money, but I'm fine as long as people care about Light Press Air Dodge. I'm glad Gimr wants to make some more Metagame minutes again though




Since I can't go to UFGT I'm thinking about going to SKTAR. Man it's been awhile since I've travelled though :/.
Nooo, our money match! What happened? I'm not entering though, I'm just gonna spectate or pay $20 to get the ability to play friendlies (so I can try to MM my $20 back). If I could go back in time I think I would have registered but I wasn't certain on my schedule to make it.
 
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Just gonna leave this here for any generation 1 fanboys... (btw, not hating on Gen 1, but anybody who says its flawless is clearly wrong)
 
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Just gonna leave this here for any generation 1 fanboys... (btw, not hating on Gen 1, but anybody who says its flawless is clearly wrong)
Why you gotta post all my secrets up like that?
 
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