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Warchamp7

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>Load up smashboards
>login
>Notice that Roy isn't on the banner at the top anymore
>MFW

Apparently I uploaded the wrong banner when I did that. Roy was in an early version of the banner and never the final one, woops
 

Gamegenie222

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Can we get a record feature in Project M for training mode? I been having this on the brain for a while now and smash training mode always sucked so having a decent record feature can help with practicing DI options and such.
 

Guilu

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A: It's impossible to perfectly balance a game of 41 characters. If you've seen Apex 2014, you would've heard matchups being discussed often.

B: All that is irrelevant anyway. There are characters better than others, and I want to know what those characters are.
I don't get what you're saying. If the PMBR made a tier list, they would be expected to change things so that the characters at the bottom of it came up and those at the top came down. Their role is adjusting the balance, not taking note of it. If they published an "official" tier list, what would we be supposed to take from it ? "These are the characters we're going to nerf next patch" ? "These are the characters we don't want you to be able to win tournaments with" ? There's no gain to be made for them. I'm not saying that there cannot or should not be tier lists, because there's no doubt the game is not perfectly balanced, but that the PMBR are not the people to do it.
Not only that, but you've watched Apex, you play the game, you have access to all those archives of tournament videos and hundreds of pages of people arguing on who is good and who isn't, or even on whether it is relevant to argue about it at all ! Can't you make your own opinion instead of being spoonfed information that may be completely off the mark, since the game is basically two months old ?
 

MechWarriorNY

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i don't think i could handle marvel. my brain would probably explode into a thousand tiny lego pieces
I put mine back together after that, so there's that too.
Valentine's day sucks.
Too many people are with their GF's instead of posting on smashboards.
Not me. Slept 'til 3PM.
I'm not giving up though the transition is a super rocky one.
If this is for Marvel, I can help a lot. Been in the FGC for over 4 years and in Marvel since 2, ask away on anything(I know a LOT)
Play ArcSys fighters EternalYoshi. Join us....
Only Guilty Gear though, BB is kinda wack.
look out guys, we have an UNPOPULAR OPINION HERE, and he's more than ready to tell us about it!
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it." -Voltaire
you say this as if any vegetables are good
They aren't.
real talk tho those rolls are really damn fast or they're not rolls and they're something else
Actually a legit boxer with dem bobs and weaves, doe.
I just realized
Donkey Kong's alternate is a lot funnier in hindsight now
Yeah basically LOL
...... you lucky motherf*cker........ I've always wanted to work there........
+1. Am jelly.
That must hurt. Calcium crystals in your tendons don't sound like a fun time. Before I realized it said under anesthetic I cringed
ANYTHING in your tendons sucks.
I have a case of tendonitis in my left wrist, it's wack.
Hey, let's talk about food some more.
Let's say you're a college student with an insatiable hunger, very little money and macros to meet. What would you whip up as a snack at 2am?
;_;
Assuming #thestruggle didn't screw me over, something filling.
 

MoonlapseOpethian

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I don't get what you're saying. If the PMBR made a tier list, they would be expected to change things so that the characters at the bottom of it came up and those at the top came down. Their role is adjusting the balance, not taking note of it. If they published an "official" tier list, what would we be supposed to take from it ? "These are the characters we're going to nerf next patch" ? "These are the characters we don't want you to be able to win tournaments with" ? There's no gain to be made for them. I'm not saying that there cannot or should not be tier lists, because there's no doubt the game is not perfectly balanced, but that the PMBR are not the people to do it.
Not only that, but you've watched Apex, you play the game, you have access to all those archives of tournament videos and hundreds of pages of people arguing on who is good and who isn't, or even on whether it is relevant to argue about it at all ! Can't you make your own opinion instead of being spoonfed information that may be completely off the mark, since the game is basically two months old ?
I agree with the whole "PMBR being tempted to change" thing, but I disagree with the whole "make up your mind" thing. I actually thought Olimar was mid tier at best in Brawl. I saw the tier list and realized the error of my ways. I'm simply not as good as others are at analyzing the Smash cast. I used to think Ike in Brawl was high tier for god's sake.

Long story short, the tier list helps noobs like me have a better understanding of the matchup system without having to watch hundreds of hours of videos... and STILL fall short.
 

Gamegenie222

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That's what we should have playing in the background for when you open this thread up for now on lol.
 

SpiderMad

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B-reversals have a four frame window in PM
also wavebounce is the ****ty undescriptive brawl name, call it a reverse b-reversal or just an RBR
Strong Bad told me 3 on Skype, so they were they 3 in Brawl and that changed? RBR sounds fitting with RAR, people don't like the term RAR either though. Wavebounce isn't that bad, brings some fun to the technique.

I originally was thinking I'd make a whole compilation of Brawl mechanics in PM for a video, but quickly realized that'd take forever and do each separately. Even things like RAR and AGT have so much to have to know about how they even work and utilities they imply (which I didn't even cover for the Wavebounce), RAR to JC Up-smash is pry underutilized.

Also how consistent can you get your SH Bair WL's with Ike? What's the frame leniency on perfect early aerial for the WL? Do you use X/Y A/C-stick L/R?
 
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DrinkingFood

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Strong Bad told me 3 on Skype, so they were they 3 in Brawl and that changed? RBR sounds fitting with RAR, people don't like the term RAR either though. Wavebounce isn't that bad, brings some fun to the technique.

Also how consistent can you get your SH Bair WL's with Ike? What's the frame leniency on perfect early aerial for the WL?
How long ago did he say that? I remember hearing like a year back on smashmods that they changed the window to 4 frames, it's also possible that I'm misremembering or that they changed it back though.

Also, I'm not sure about frame data for Ike's SHBAWL. I don't main him anymore either, so the chances of me being consistent are low. If you're having a hard time with it, try working on timing the directional press on the control stick to be in line with when you press the shoulder button to airdodge- it's possible that you are pressing it too early and causing yourself to fast fall, making ike reach the ground before the IASA frames but within the autocancel frames, meaning he won't suffer landing lag but he'll have never had the chance to WL either. Try doing it without pressing a direction on the control stick, so that you just airdodge in place after the bair instead of waveland. That'll give you an idea of the window, then make sure you aren't pressing the stick to early and FFing.
 

SpiderMad

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Really? Well Lucas had an issue where you couldn't B-reverse his Down-b once they made it come out a frame earlier and then reverted it back, that may have been on frame 3.

Yeah I noticed that issue with the accidental FFall with Squirtle's back when he was able to do it before they changed his gravity, so going with getting DJs out before he hits the ground is the first step in practice. A lot of these tight early aerial techniques are really not seen or used when they get too tight of multiple windows. It's been my repeating thoughts of how consistent people can be doing them.
 
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Soft Serve

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Its 4 in the morning and im still at a smashfest. Why did i offer my wii for the pm stream qq
 

#HBC | Joker

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I hate veggies, too; but it's literally five seconds of wet [animal] taste, and most vegetables go down easy. C'mon, guys, eat healthy :(

As a bonus, there's a chance you'll poop green! That's been my sole motivation for eating vegitables since my childhood.
in my experience, it's best to eat veggies that are bad, in combination with things that are good. Like, I'm not a big fan of peppers, but if I have some pepper steak? I'mma eat those peppers, because they are mixed in with delicious steak.
 

Kati

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Ew Pit's back on the banner.

I wonder how fast Falcon will be compared to little mac. I'm guessing he will never be PM fast though, so it's a good thing I'm content being bitter about brawl and devoted to pm.

Also, it's hilarious watching people get caught off guard by Ganon's reverse wiz kick. It's as if they feel safer when his back is turned to them.
 

Nguz95

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Vegetables are incredible. What veggies are you eating? Cauliflower, asparagus, green beans, potatoes, peas, and even brussels sprouts are delicious.
 
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MLGF

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Oh look, the banner now includes Project M in it too.
That's really nice of them actually.
 
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