Zetter is stil jank and kills at 50% if the opponent is on fire, on top of fire doing a ton of burn damage
Forsburn is really underwhelming, clone is too weak and dies because it's stupid 75% of the time, smoke is too easily dissipated so you cant lay down much, and his only reliable kill outside of baits/reads with f/dsmash is his smoke explosion. The angles and hitbox placement on his u and f smashes sux.
If I or any other Squirtle player decides to play Orcane they're gonna nerf the **** out of him lol, he has a ton of 1:1 Hydroplane stuff and it's better cause his smash frame data is great
Edit:
@Binary Clone forgot to mention it with my other impressions, but wavedashing just feels tacked on.