Hi there. My name is Wiseguy and I used to post here quite a bit back in the day. Does anyone remember me?
Moar liek one aerial (forward air), neutral A, and one tilt (up tilt...though they could've just bumped up the time...). And, of course, his taunt and victory poses but all of the clones are given a (mostly) unique set of these. Everything else is identical. <_< Also, and this is just me being bored and rambling on, Dr. Mario (if the purple stuff doesn't count for Ganondorf, the fire for Roy and Young Link's arrows then the pills don't count as uncloned), Young Link, and Roy all have completely cloned movesets, and Falco and Pichu both have one move each. Luigi has eight from what I can see.
But ya...Hopefully this update will end the week on a good note. Diddy looks cool...yet another character I'm interested in. :/
Ganondorf's only unique moves are his Fair and neutral A. His up tilt has an extra pause in it, but that can be done with coding, same as all speed based modifications. Still, this is enough to earn Ganondorf his title as the clone with the most unique moves.
Now, Luigi, he also has a unique Fair and neutral A, but he also has his own up tilt, down A, running A, forward smash, Dair, neutal B, and over B, which edges him safely out of clone territory. Especially his over B, which is entirely unique from Mario and must require all sorts of new code to pull off.
Still, Luigi does share a lot in common with his brother, and I'm sure this did save some time during development, but then Kirby and Jigglypuff also probably saved a bunch of development time since their animators never had to worry about elbows, knees, fingers, wrists, ankles, tails, or necks. The point is that if Luigi was a clone, his design would've been tailored to time-saving measures, and he wouldn't have nearly as many unique moves as he does.
Fine, fine. I wave the white flag of surrender. I admit that Luigi can't really be considered a clone. I will purge all referances to his clone status in my post. I know when I'm beat.
I don't think that MK's FS should involve the Halred because there is a stage that already using the Halbred. Imagine, you're on the Halbred, and another Halbred flies up. Same thing with the Arwings.
Anyone else wondering what happens when you save only Peach/Zelda?
I heard that Metaknight has a team of knight minions in the Kirby games. Perhaps he can summon them, ala Pit?
I think this lowers Ridley's chances of being a PC
Petey is not a non-PC becuase of his size, but becuase of his insignifcance to his series of origin. I will eat my new pair of shoes if Ridley is not playable in Brawl.
For all we know, Petey is under orders of the Ancient Minister to capture Zelda and Peach as the payment to Bowser and Ganondorf to join his army in order to stop heroes like Mario and Link from thwarting his plans of taking the world into subspace for him to rule over. Petey enlisted to re-enact revenge upon the Mushroom Kingdom and became one of the AM's henchmen/peons whereas Bowser/Ganondorf were requested to join and are much higher up the chain of command.
Then that would fit into the order of:
Petey - Minor Villain - Boss encounter only
Ganondorf/Bowser/other archnemesis' of Brawl Heroes - Major Villain - Boss encounter + playable
Ancient Minister - Main Villain - Final boss?
Makes sense, but I theorize that the Minister's minions are actually all the characters who didn't make the cut for the playable roster, hell bent on taking out their jelousy against the playable cast. The Minister's true idenity?
I think you are lost, my friend. The Nsider forums are here:
http://forums.nintendo.com/
From the way I look at it, you doon't play as the same character for the whole game, you take turns with each of the characters. Starting with Kirby.
Shouldn't it be:
Status: CONFIRMED!!!
On Sakurai’s poll: N/A
Fixed. My bad.
Thanks Numa.
Cool Balloon Fighter!! Now, re-edit your post and remove him from the Assist Trophies section XD
Urgh, I suck. Fixed.
I think that it's the unique thing that can make a game interesting. But that's just one idea.
Although not only am I stumped on FS's I am also stuck on this: What will Wario's other moves be? What kind of stage would he have? Why do I keep asking questions without waiting for an answer? Will there be more bosses introduced from the Mario Series? (As I said before there should be side scrollig areas like Mushroom Kingdom in Adventure Mode. Perhaps something from Donkey Kong or Pokemon.) Will Olimar be the next newcomer confirmed on the DOJO?
1) I suspect most will be simple punches and the like, but his Final will definitely be Super Wario!
2) Becasue of your indominable spirit of optimism. KEEP THE FAITH JIMMY! KEEP THE FAITH!
3) Yes. Bet the farm on it. Koopa Kids anyone? or (dare I say it...) COUNT BLECK?!
4) Please oh please be right! I care more about Olimar's presense than online play (and that's pretty dang important to me.)
Hate to double post but... WILL ANY OF MY BLOODY QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED!?!?
I've been waiting like, five hours!
But, on topic: I do think that Petey Pirahna (Pirnah? Piranah? Pirinah? Pirana?) is a good choice for a boss. I think that the Zelda bosses (I don't mean like, Ganon) should get in (Perhaps this breaths new life into Vaati or Skull Kid!)
Patience my friend. Petey may have been the first revealed boss, but you can bet he won't be the last.
What's this? 3rd page? Madness! Too many spam topics get created for sure
. Been a bit lazy on creating the Lloyd moveset 'cause friends and Guitar Hero seem to be taking a bit of priority but oh well. Gotta refamilarise myself with some of the better moves before I start ya see and that might involve finding my Disc 1 of ToS which I think may still be in my GC. >.>
Wiseguy, I'd like to see the cutting of Mii off your predictions and the addition of Paper Mario! Post haste! Our flat friend is in need of support. Plus I noticed that the version of my Olimar moveset that you link to isn't the most updated one in the Olimar thread, so a little update there would be good please <3.
Thankd for bumping my thread Vali.
Miis will be removed from my list over my dead body (expect me to keep the faith until the bitter end, after Sakurai himself has an update to specifically deconfirm them) but it wouldn't take much to convince me to include PM for sure. The first tiniest hint of paintbrush boy's demise will be all I need.
As for the Olimar moveset, I'll gladly oblige. Could you provide me with a link? I'd do it, but I suffer from cronic laziness...
Yeah, Miis just seem to have more probability.
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Wiseguy!?
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WISEGUY!?!
WHERE ARE YOU!?! THIS THREAD IS DYING!!!
Sorry man, but sometimes the internets really start to get to me. I re-posted my "Smasher Unite" thread in the Nsider forums and... let's say the responce evaporated whatever faith I had in the human race. I had to take a weekend off for my own sanity.
His name was originally the Wise Messiah, but he had to modernize it into Wiseguy.
Wise Messiah, save this thread, like you saved the platypuses all those years ago, when they faced certain destruction at the hands of the kangaroos. Or when you invented light. Not the light bulb, light.
Wow, sometimes I amaze even myself.
I don't think a moveset can sway me. I just don't like the idea of having two Marios in Brawl. Sorry .
But I just loved that game completely. Every character (even Collette) was amazingly awesome, except Genus the.. well you know.
FOOL! Vali's movesets are so awesome, they could stop a herd of speeding buffalo in their tracks. Click on this link. You know, if your MAN enough.
http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=2775294&postcount=2981
i think this list i really well thought out and has been pretty much on the money besides retro characters, and pokemon trainer. I was wondering if wiseguy is gonna make a list of the possible bosses that could appear in the story mode as they are kinda characters.
Cool idea. Off hand, I want to see Count Bleck from SPM, Andross and Dark Samus. Of course, with my new job taking up so much time, classes coming in the fall and Prime 3's realease I don't know if I'll find the time.
Wiseguy, I must respectfully say that I disagree with the addition of Wind Waker link. I believe with 40+ characters, they won't need clones.
CLones may or may not make it - but WW Link definitely will. His games have plenty of uniqe items that could set him apart from TP Link and, as a representative of all the "Young Links" in the Zelda series, you'd be hard pressed to find a character more worthy.
*cough*
I don't know if anyone has brought this up yet but..
Wiseguy, I totally disagree on your opinion that Wolf will be a clone of Fox. He has tons of potential to not be a clone, and there are so many good movesets out there for him.
Oh, you're not the first. Most people agree with you.
Wolf could indeed be made unique from Fox, but for my purposes I needed 3 clones. Personally, I think it could either way.
Wtf? You took Bonk off your list? I guess that's your way of saying I was right. Apology accepted.
Now if you'd just take "Midna & Wolf Link" off of your list, cut down on the 3rd party characters, and put Falco as a returning character your list wouldn't look so stupid anymore.
They're not going to add a character called "Midna & Wolf Link". Not only is that name dumb, but so is that idea. It's as stupid as the people who thought Diddy & Dixie would be a team. It's almost as stupid as when you thought they would add Midna in her twili form instead of her imp form, which is how she appears through out the entire game.
They aren't going to remove Falco. He's probably more popular than Fox in the Star Fox games. Falco is basically Fox's Luigi. I don't know why so many people think they'd take him out. If they wanted to use Wolf over Falco, they'd have done so in Melee. Wolf sucks. There's nothing interesting about him at all. He has no personality, he has no significant back story, and nobody gives a crap about him. The other members of his team are 1,000 more interesting then he is.
Oh look. Freeman123 posted on my thread.
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Moving on.
Bump!
Apparently, because Metroid Prime 3 is being released this week, all the Ridley fans are CERTAIN that Ridley will be confirmed this week. One fan said it would be the "week of Metroid". Fools. They're being mindgamed by Sakurai, and he's not even doing anything.
Bet he confirms Ness or Captain Falcon. Even funnier would be an item, stage, and gameplay week.
I love how crazy the updates have gotten. Remember, folks, predicting Sakurai is as easy as filling out a perfect March Madness sheet. Possible, but mind-blowingly improbable.
Not that I have anything against Ridley, just people that still think there might be some sort of logic to Sakurai's posts.
I was CERTIAN today was the day, but I guess Sakurai had other plans. I guess Sakurai knew we would predict it, and purposely chose NOT to include him today.
On the plus side, I have high hopes that Olimar's time may have finally come.
Wind Waker Link isn't "very likely", he's "probable" at best.
I don't care if a lot of people want him. A lot of people wanted Samurai Goro, look what happened there.
He's probable at best.
AH, but Goroh did not star in the fastest selling Zelda in the history of Japan, did he? WW Link did, in Phantom Hourglass.
You made a mistake on Diddy Wiseguy...
It says Stats: Very Likely
On Sakurai's Poll: CONFIRMED!!!!!!!
Yeah, you should fix that.
Yeah, it's finally fixed.
Gief The skull kid from majoras mask :<
Awesome idea, but his best chance was in Melee - right after MM's release. Now SK's best shot in the TP-centric Brawl is as an Assist Trophy.
i would just like you to know. i think you are a moron.
Thanks for the heads up. I'll make a note of it.
By the way, even morons know that "I"s are supposed to uppercased. Just sayin.
I think Ness, Jiggz, Ness, Mewtwo, ICs, and Falco shall/should return.
Ness, Jiggz, and Ness because they were in the original. Mewtwo...because he is essentially the primary villain of pre-Deoxys Pokemon. ICs have a unique moveset and concept. And Falco...is frickin' Falco.
Sakurai stated that Brawl is based off of the code of Melee and that many characters will be transfered and modified. I think he shall drop very few old characters, seeing as how they only have to be transfered and slightly remodeled at the least. I think ICs took a lot of work in the creation of Melee and I bet Sakurai is proud of them. Same goes for Mewtwo.
The only characters I really feel should be dropped are Clones: Doc, Roy, Pichu, and Y. Link make my list. Sheik is logically gone. G&W might also be slated to go, although I would love for him to stay.
Your list is not very good Wiseguy. You make no bold predictions.
You make a fair argument, but I really suspect that quite a few characters will be cut for Brawl. The fewer time spent updating old character models and movesets, the more time that can be spent on new characters, stages, items, etc.
For the record, I think my precistions were more bold before Sakurai's update forced me to remove ROB and the Pokemon Trainer's 3 movesets required that I sqeeze out Bonk and Black Mage.
That's all for now, gents. Wiseguy out.