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@the Wikipedia skepticism - the info on Wikipedia has footnotes you know. And links for them. To Bungie's website. Where they confirm what I just said - Microsoft still partially owns Bungie. Ergo it is a second party.
Not to mention that regardless of that, Microsoft owns the rights to Halo anyway and Bungie couldn't give the ok for Master Chief to be in the next SSB even if they wanted to.
Guys, guys! Perhaps you haven't realized, but it actually pays to watch the stock market! (I know, surprising for me too!) and reading Gaming Mags like EGM, Game Informer and the like. In fact, it's a pretty big deal, now Bungie, one of Microsoft's biggest assets have gone into open water.
D:.Machspeed and thethirdkoopa, I post in the Geno thread every once in awhile and have debated with Fatmanonice a few times. I must not be very rememberable.
I Advise you to do that.OMG JIMMY DIDN'T SAY NUFF SAID!!!!!!!!
Sigh, yes, of course. Geno, listen, I've already stated my case that Geno has little to no chance and you've stated the little bits that give him a chance. Obviously you won't see the full picture, so I'm not going to keep debating with a brick wall. I've stated all of the facts and drawn the most logical conclusion, and you ignore it, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to give you the pleasure of debating with you if all your going to do is see it only from one limited perspective. I've learned to stop trying to get you to see reason, so stop antagonizing and let me move on to other topics.
This is where someone like me who enjoys reading this thread comes in and says:
Overkill much?
Perhaps, but I want to lay this whole thing to rest. I honestly don't want to be known as "The Anti-Geno Guy" all I want to be known as is a simple guy who can debate, I don't want to be hounded by this one gy an this one topic, I want to be able to be a part of multiple debates.
uh yeah.....anyways it would be epically awsome if there was a way to splice characters together. Just the thought of combining bowser and ridley to make the ultimate evil is giving me chills.
Woah. Do we have absolutely nothing better to do than come up with combo names?
When does the next argument start? Or more importantly, how does the next argument start, I mean, if we're all doing this name thing, none of us are arguing.
Ok let's start an arguement.
You know you love him
Why not?
He's pretty cool, but I don't think he's very likely.What about Chrono, from Chrono Trigger?
C'mon, Wiseguy :D
StarFox's popularity has been in serious decline since StarFox 64, and it wasn't terribly popular to begin with.
QFT. 4 reps!!!
Too bad about Goroh (despite being 5 month old news! XD). >_<
You know about Maskman? And Sakurai seems to be interested in another Mother char. On Sakurai's poll 3 of 20 characters who had more than 2 voices are Mother chars.
2002 - There are much more characters in Brawl, who haven't appeared a longer time.
Takamaru is highly popular in Japan and was highly ranked on Sakurai's poll. Sakurai is asking what the Japanese players want and not what we want.
I cannot express how much I do not care. No insult to people who do care, but I honestly do not care if Marth gets back in, in fact I think that his chances are around fifty-fifty, he has as much stuf againt him as for him, and personally, I don't care for the diferecne between Marth or Machiah. It wouldn't even cause me to blink if Marth was confirmed or deconfirmed tomorrow. I cannot say anything about my stance on this, because I honestly do not have one, but I can really see the logic in this.
Yeah, the Goroh thing got me, as I was an advocate for at least having two characters for every rep spot (except third party). It really bummed me out.Ike using a two-handed moveset more similar to Link's power based moveset in Melee, in which Link is now more balanced, like in smash 64 (minus sucking). Ike is all power, okay speed, while Marth is all speed attacks, and is quite agile. They are bipolar opposites, and honestly Mario is closer to Ike then Marth! Another thing I can mark as "I was right!"
Woah! I didn't notice that on the new list, but now that you mention it, I'm at a deep conflict with that decision. Falco was a popular character, he was like Fox's right hand man, but I really don't want to have another saxrifice in roster... Oh, wait! Wisey, if you remove the rediculously improbable characters like Geno you can make more room for Falco! I mean, if on your list Sheik is returning, you might as well have the more likely canidates return too.
Amen to that! If anyone's getting in with Lucas, it's going to be Ness. Why? Because Ness was in the Original Twelve and has been there ever since, replacing him with Lucas and then replacing the second spot with Claus is like pouring lemon juice soaked salt onto an open wound. And I think your right, even if Sakurai's getting more into the Japan only MOTHER that doesn't mean that that's the only thing that he's going to be drawing from. Pulling from all games in the franchise just makes more sense than focusing on one, particularly if Ness had become a fairly popular character since then.
Man, you're right on the ball here! Iv'e been calling for this for a long long time. Wisey, I have no idea what made you put Takkey on the list, but you seriously need to take him/her out!
You make a fine point here, when I heard about this third party thing images of powerful icons sprung to mind, like Bomberman, Megaman, or Cloud duking it out. These third party slots are too costly to use trying to ressurect old characters. This goes for Geno too. Now, some people will say that there have been retro characters like the Ice Climbers who have gotten in, but Nintendo was able to do that because Nintendo owned those characters, and thusly, didn't spend any money trying to get them, with third party characters however, you need to finagle with another company and dice up the profit of the game with them, then give them commitment to the character,and in the end, it's just a waste of money and time because half of the people don't even recognize the character. Heck, I didn't even recognize the character when you put him up, and I play a pretty good sum of video games.
Yep, dem's the rules.
Well, with Wario's bike moves it seems that Nintendo isn't really looking much into Mach Rider being original, as they gave the only move he could have to Wario, however, with the new idea of humans getting multiple jumps, gliding, and the fact that he was nearly in Melee raises his chances a crapload I say. However, there is the matter of the Baloon Fighter fish on an Ice Climber stage. Why would they put that there unless they weren't planning on a Balloon Fighter stage? Personally, I'm affled at the dicisions right now, so currently I'm at standstill.
Actually, here is where I need to intervene, as Nintendo already has a Kingdom Hearts lined up for the Wii, in my book that skyrockets Sora's chances amazingly as Nintendo would definitely want to publicize Sora then. And, believe it or not, you can have a character in the game without needing the whole cast. It doesn't quite stretch the mind to imagine Sora alone, fighting, and not mentioning any Disney character. He isn't Disney, in fact, he's a fish ou of water with Disney, actually more of a FF like character than anything.8. Sora has no chance. Two out of Five of his games are on Nintendo systems, only. Plus Sora is like Disney based, and I'm not sure if we want Mickey Mouse in Brawl. Let alone Donald Duck, and Goofey!
I can only see Belmont getting in if Nintendo has failed at getting a character from an outside source, then, and only then, would they go back to Konami and say "Gimme another one.", which I find pretty unlikely.9. Belmont has no chance for the reason no Final Fantasy character has no chance....LACK OF MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER! Still, I guess being on the secondary 3rd party character lists suits him, though if it's in order, Bomberman is above him. About time the Bomberman series sells 10 million units, after more games then Megaman!
I don't find Pac-Man random, if Nintendo wants iconic, definitely go with Pac-Man. But I agree, Rayman is just such a good, underrated character, and I would love to see him Brawl.10. Pacman is too random. Try Rayman as a potential 3rd party character. Also, don't be afraid to try other random ones. Put Master Chief as #5 and say how much you want him, and how awsome he'd be. Followed by "jk, guys" just to rile people up!
In my opinion, if anyone is getting in after Megaman, it's going to be Bomberman, then Sora, then perhaps Rayman, then Pac-Man.
