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PP is the best Falco

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prog

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kid is a monster. ggs.

DON'T YOU EVER SCARE ME LIKE THAT AGAIN.

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ol at being down 3 stocks to 1 in the second game vs wobbles and bringing it all the way back to win the set
 

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PP is probably the most consistent Falco after Mango. Good tech skill and definitely 1 of the smartest Falcos.

Mango is the best overall.

Shiz has the most potential. He has the most control/talent/pure potential than anyone and ***** like no other when he's on point. Just less consistent than PP and Mango probably due to his insanely aggressive playstyle which sometimes works against him (but obviously makes him most fun to watch).
 

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i wouldn't say shiz has any more potential just because he's more technical, they all can increase in their style and make themselves better without being more technical (ie mango)

but he def is dope.
 

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Well being more technical is pretty much the definition of having more potential. It doesn't necessarily mean he is or is going to play better, he just has a higher ceiling.

I'm not sold PP is better than Shiz either. Depends on the tourney and matchups as to which one places better. For example Shiz, IMO, has a much better chance at beating players like Mango/Jman while PP definitely does better vs Hbox.

Too many variables to say whos better.
 

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i wouldn't say shiz has any more potential just because he's more technical, they all can increase in their style and make themselves better without being more technical (ie mango)

but he def is dope.
I dont understand this post

Mango's tech skill with falco is basically unmatched by anyone.

people confuse "tech skill" with "flashy playstyle" too much.
 

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people confuse "tech skill" with "good." theres more to this game than just tech skill.
 

SheerMadness

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Mango's tech skill with falco is basically unmatched by anyone.

people confuse "tech skill" with "flashy playstyle" too much.
Don't agree with that. Mango has very good tech skill + he adapts and plays extremely smart. That's why he's the best Falco not because his tech skill is unmatched. Zhu and Shiz very easily match his tech skill in my opinion.

Because a lot of flashy playstyles involve techy stuff. I mean go watch DARK (fox) matches.

Yes there is more to this game than flashy tech skill. But those playstyles can be efficient too. Shiz is one of the flashiest Falco players out there yet he is still one of the top players in the world. Just because you're flashy doesn't mean you can't play smart...
 

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Don't agree with that. Mango has very good tech skill + he adapts and plays extremely smart. That's why he's the best Falco not because his tech skill is unmatched. Zhu and Shiz very easily match his tech skill in my opinion.

Because a lot of flashy playstyles involve techy stuff. I mean go watch DARK (fox) matches.

Yes there is more to this game than flashy tech skill. But those playstyles can be efficient too. Shiz is one of the flashiest Falco players out there yet he is still one of the top players in the world. Just because you're flashy doesn't mean you can't play smart...
there are other aspects to tech skill other than pressing the most buttons the fastest. people forget that it seems.
 

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I always underestimated PP for some reason, I was 10ft away from him PP vs Armada, I now beleive Falco/Peach is 50/50 good playing PP so **** consistant and smart.
 

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I dont understand this post

Mango's tech skill with falco is basically unmatched by anyone.

people confuse "tech skill" with "flashy playstyle" too much.
when he said most technical i had assumed he meant more of a BPM kinda thing, cause shiz plays insanely fast, does technical things, etc.

mango is the most technical because he's precise right? I mean it's not like mango does anything extra fast/technical, he just does everything right/leaves out things he finds unnecessary.

i don't confuse the terms, I just go by what people would describe 'techskill' as in their discussion.

Some people see techskill as speed, others as playing precise, amirite?
 

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however, PP sucks at driving and eating white castle.

but seriously, the dude is like catfish adrenaline. i don't think i've ever been so hyped playing someone, and the advice is phenomenal. the physician of prostates, the practicioner of pacemakers, the pastor of papsmears...

dr. pp is the reason why obama gave us health care.

[scientology]
 

Nihonjin

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From what I've seen at Pound & Apex..

1st Mango - The best Falco

2nd PP - The calm & collected Falco

3rd/4th Shiz - The fearless Falco
3rd/4th Zhu - The metrosexual Falco

5th Lambchops - The gunslinging Falco

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25th Mango - The drunk/hungover Falco

Though I'm just guessing, it seems about right..:embarrass
 

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shiz was beating PP in falco ditto's on friday pretty often (like pp won 2 out of 10)

that said, i think shiz is **** in falco dittos, zhu is **** on erryone else

PP is most conistently better than both

mango's just mango..... like m2k, not a main of any character
 

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when he said most technical i had assumed he meant more of a BPM kinda thing, cause shiz plays insanely fast, does technical things, etc.

mango is the most technical because he's precise right? I mean it's not like mango does anything extra fast/technical, he just does everything right/leaves out things he finds unnecessary.

i don't confuse the terms, I just go by what people would describe 'techskill' as in their discussion.

Some people see techskill as speed, others as playing precise, amirite?
yea, thats what i mean.
 

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however, PP sucks at driving and eating white castle.

but seriously, the dude is like catfish adrenaline. i don't think i've ever been so hyped playing someone, and the advice is phenomenal. the physician of prostates, the practicioner of pacemakers, the pastor of papsmears...

dr. pp is the reason why obama gave us health care.

[scientology]
this post was immaculate
 

Aldwyn McCloud

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From what I've seen at Pound & Apex..

1st Mango - The best Falco

2nd PP - The calm & collected Falco

3rd/4th Shiz - The fearless Falco
3rd/4th Zhu - The metrosexual Falco

5th Lambchops - The gunslinging Falco

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25th Mango - The drunk/hungover Falco

Though I'm just guessing, it seems about right..:embarrass
I really should go to some big event and confront me with those some day ;)

Anyway, apart from his drunken master syndrome, Mango's still the best I think.

PP however is indeed the best candidate for 2nd place after him. His careful attitude, well rounded knowledge of match ups and success rate speak clear. Also, he probably exploits his character better. Mango's better just because it's Mango lol.

Hungrybox might be coming to Italy next summer so MOVE YOUR A$$ PP, THE BETTER U GET THE MORE I WANNA PLAY U. I'll promise after playing me in dittos you'll whoop the **** out of every other Falco in the world ;)
 

FoxLisk

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mango has the best tech skill. he's more consistent, less sloppy, and faster. he also has better DI and SDI and edge-teching and reactions. those things count too.
 

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From what I've seen at Pound & Apex..

1st Mango - The best Falco

2nd PP - The calm & collected Falco

3rd/4th Shiz - The fearless Falco
3rd/4th Zhu - The metrosexual Falco

5th Lambchops - The gunslinging Falco

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25th Mango - The drunk/hungover Falco

Though I'm just guessing, it seems about right..:embarrass
I agree on this.

Actually, I think axe's might be better than chops'.
 

TheZhuKeeper

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From what I've seen at Pound & Apex..

1st Mango - The best Falco

2nd PP - The calm & collected Falco

3rd/4th Shiz - The fearless Falco
3rd/4th Zhu - The metrosexual Falco

5th Lambchops - The gunslinging Falco

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25th Mango - The drunk/hungover Falco

Though I'm just guessing, it seems about right..:embarrass
Why am I metrosexual, is it cause my Falco is awkward? =(
 

Aldwyn McCloud

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From what I've seen at Pound & Apex..

1st Mango - The best Falco

2nd PP - The calm & collected Falco

3rd/4th Shiz - The fearless Falco
3rd/4th Zhu - The metrosexual Falco

5th Lambchops - The gunslinging Falco

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25th Mango - The drunk/hungover Falco

Though I'm just guessing, it seems about right..:embarrass
What's my description supposed to be? :laugh:
 

Wenbobular

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Why doesn't Shiz ever shorten the illusion when sometimes it is clearly better than doing the full one ;_;
 

Doomblaze

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He doesnt need to, the fear of facing dashizwiz the other player has negates the poor quality decisions he never makes.

When people try to attack the shine, they usually use a non-laggy move like marth/ganon jab, so even if he shortens the illusion he can still get punished

I've seen him shorten it before, so idk
 
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