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Potential Roster/Stage Leak Thread

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I may have missed this part. Who are the characters in question here?
Well there's Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Mewtwo. There are some others that have been tacked on, Chorus Men or Impa and Mach Rider.

I'm not sure where the discrepancy formed, but the first three, which are consistent are the most important, so I'm holding out for them.
 

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While I usually keep all of my opinions glued to the Bandana Dee thread, I guess I'll post this here:

Onto the leak, I have a few things I like, don't like, and things I hope happen.

Characters:

Bowser Jr. -
When the leak has initially risen, I wasn't excited for Bowser Jr. at all. I didn't want him in the game, and I truly expected him to be a character I would never play. Now, today, after seeing actual footage of him, he makes me very excited. Bowser Jr. fits into the Mario franchise very well, and actually makes me happy to see him on the roster now. While I may be liking the Koopa Clown Car more than Bowser Jr. himself, I love the character. I love the expressions that the Koopa Clown Car shows, and really like the unique attacks he has. If I saw correctly, the car actually has an attack to lick people, haha. Also, it seems that the rumor about Bowser Jr. having no alternate palettes, and instead having alternate costumes of the different Koopalings is true, as we have seen a trophy of Larry riding in the Koopa Clown Car. I'd honestly prefer just Bowser Jr. with different colors, but the Koopalings are sure to please fans.

Shulk - While I haven't gone through XenoBlade yet, it seems like Shulk is a very requested fighter. From what I've seen so far, Shulk has a more "nerdy" personality compared to other sword wielders in the game, so that'll be fun to watch. So far, Shulk seems to be a more unique wielder with his Monado, and the different modes that it includes. I feel like he will be one of the most unique weapon wielders in the game, as he seems that he'll have more gimmicks than others.

Duck Hunt - When I saw the "Duck Hunt Dog" requests, I immediately discarded them. I didn't like the dog's design, and had thought he would be more of an annoying, obnoxious character than anything. After seeing his render in the first leaks, my opinion on him changed. He looked more like a casual, happy dog that, for some odd reason, had befriended a duck. His design had changed for the best, as he had a lighter, more cartoon-y style, and lost most of the obnoxious feel from him. While we haven't actually seen him in-game, I'm very interested in how he fights. If he grabs the ducks by the neck and swings them around, I don't really know how much I'd like him, but from what I've heard, the dog will be fighting along side the duck, with the ducks assisting him with certain attacks. I'm not sure how much I'd like an actual dog fighting, as I'm not sure really what he'd do, unless he's one of the more... creepy dogs, that likes to stand on it's hind legs all the time. In terms of his expressiveness and attacks, I hope he takes notes from Kirby, similar to his Animal Copy Ability.

Clones (Lucina, Doctor Mario, Dark Pit) - I have a few problems with the clones this time around. First of all, Lucina and Dark Pit aren't grouped with their respective franchises. While I don't care much if Doctor Mario is grouped with his franchise, as having two versions of Mario next to each other would look odd, I'm not that happy that Lucina and Dark Pit aren't grouped with their franchises, as it makes them feel like they're not supposed to be part of those games. Another one of my problems is Doctor Mario being included as a stand alone character. While it isn't taking any development time, Doctor Mario could easily go over as an alternate costume. Doctor Mario may possibly not work as an alternate due to the fact that he doesn't use F.L.U.D.D, but I'd prefer Doctor Mario to not be in the game at all if not an alternate costume, as I feel like having two variations that are still the same character on the roster is a bit dumb. Dark Pit is better about this as he's still a completely different character, as he isn't just Pit in a different pair of clothes. Dark Pit actually has his own personality, so I feel like he fits in better. Lucina follows this the same way, as she isn't Marth wearing a wig in different clothes, and instead is a completely different character with a different personality. Both Lucina and Dark Pit are staying true to their series, as they technically are clones of their respective characters in their actual games, too.

Veterans (Ganondorf, Ness, Wario, Mr. Game & Watch) - While I'm not going to go over them much, there's one thing they all have in common that I don't like. I really feel like their renders does a poor job of showing them off, and is poorly designed. After seeing Ganondorf's renders, I'd say they did a nice job on him, and fits in well with both Link and Zelda. In terms of Ness, I don't really like his render, as it poorly expresses him and feels too plain. I actually much more prefer the fake render that was made of Ness, as it generally looks better, and expresses Ness more. I hope that both Wario and Mr. Game & Watch's renders are place holders, as they both look horrible. Wario's render looks like garbage, and doesn't even express him that well, while Mr. Game & Watch looks like they took the model from his shield pose and put it in. I hope that they both change, as I really don't like them.

Stages (Kirby's Dream Land) - This is actually very exciting, at least for me. The amazing, classic GameBoy stage that we are receiving is none other than a stage dedicated to Kirby's Dream Land! As much as I'd love Bubbly Clouds, having a true classic Kirby stage still wins. I'll probably be playing on this stage a lot, and using it's music in Smash Run. I actually hope that the stage is a scrolling stage, only because I'd like to see more areas than just one part of the level. Also, it basically is confirmed to be a Kirby stage rather than a general GameBoy stage that switches cartridge, as that is the only Kirby stage on the 3DS.

General - Overall, the design of the game is beautiful. The menu design fits throughout the game well, although I'm not a big fan of the plain, black background on the character select screen. I feel like it would look a lot better if it was white instead, similar to the other menus. The menu icons and renders are very well done, and makes the game feel nice throughout. Also, new features that have been revealed such as online features and Multi-Man Smash seems as if it'd be fun. I'm really liking the Replay Channel, as it seems that it'll works similarly to Mario Kart TV. I'm happy to see that you can send "Mii Fighters, snapshots, and more via the Internet!" to your friends, as I can add some of you guys and send you some snapshots, haha. Hopefully some of you are into that, because anybody who adds me is sure to receive some snapshots. Training Mode seems to have gotten significant upgrades, so it'll be a lot more helpful this time around. Touch Screen capabilities in Training Mode is surely going to make switching between items and modes a lot easier. Also, it seems that Smash Run has Team Battles at the end match, too, so that'll be fun.
 

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The damage has been done. We know what we know and everything has been documented and saved somewhere. There is no turning back now and it would actually be counterproductive for Nintendo to do damage control.
 

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Now i thought MK Deadly Alliance and Soul Calibur 5 had awful rosters but this one takes the number one spot for me! :urg:
 

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How was taking down the videos a bad move on Nintendo's part? They're just protecting their assets on a game that's yet to be released. It's like other companies taking down video game footage on a game with spoilers to them almost immediately upon release of the game.

We know, so why keep them up? It's all been archived by this point too.
Because it pretty much confirms it as real. They have already been up for too long, everyone saw them, so its pointless to take them down, and if they were left alone there would be still a tiny room for ,,maybe its fake'' for Nintendo to still be able to use some hype for.
 

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Because it pretty much confirms it as real. They have already been up for too long, everyone saw them, so its pointless to take them down, and if they were left alone there would be still a tiny room for ,,maybe its fake'' for Nintendo to still be able to use some hype for.
Let's be frank here. There was no room for "its fake" anymore. The shulk gameplay is kinda sloppy, I give you that.

But THREE gameplay videos of Bowser Jr., with the new Bowser, is too much to not accept it.
 

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For those who missed it, here's the gameplay video and a bunch of pictures that came out alongside it.

In all honesty, I wish this leak wasn't real now. I feel really bad for Sakurai.
 

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YouTube is now swamped in all the leaked videos and photos. I wonder how everything else is going to go down...
 

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I wish some of the people complaining about the roster would at least hold on until we get the full picture.

There's still more we haven't seen.
 

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Let's be frank here. There was no room for "its fake" anymore. The shulk gameplay is kinda sloppy, I give you that.

But THREE gameplay videos of Bowser Jr., with the new Bowser, is too much to not accept it.
Thats why I said ,,tiny'', but I guess you got a point there :p
 

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I wish some of the people complaining about the roster would at least hold on until we get the full picture.

There's still more we haven't seen.
But is that confirmed 100%?

I really want to believe Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Mewtwo. I think there's a fair shot at it being true, but I can't help but be scared.
 

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HOLY BANANA SLAMMA!
219+ USERS AND 315+ GUESTS VIEWING THIS THREAD!
MOTHER OF GOD!
 

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You know, I would've been convinced of this a few years ago. But today? Almost anything can be faked in this day and age, even stuff like that. And with the extent that Brawl has been hacked, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't been building this over the course of the two years since the first footage was released at E3.
For one, it isn't being displayed on actual 3DS hardware.
Secondly, the AI is dumber than a sack of bricks. Is anyone taking a look at those things? The AI in previous Smash games was a lot better than that. Combined with the fact that the "leaked" characters were only controlled by the computers, it's entirely possible that the "leaked" characters were operating on AI not their own (I'm pretty convinced Bowser Jr. is using Mega Man's AI and body frame, myself).
 

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But is that confirmed 100%?

I really want to believe Ridley, Dixie Kong, and Mewtwo. I think there's a fair shot at it being true, but I can't help but be scared.
Considering the insider claimed that there is more on the horizon I don't see why not, unless if they're intentionally being jack asses for w/e reason.

Regardless there's nothing to for now but to sit tight and wait on Nintendo.

Save the complaining for when we finally get the full, official roster (not directed at you btw).
 

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Did anyone save those newcomer videos? anyone! Damn it school.
 

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Now i thought MK Deadly Alliance and Soul Calibur 5 had awful rosters but this one takes the number one spot for me! :urg:
You serious? This is undeniably the best roster we've ever had, even more if we count the DLC characters + ridley + dixie + mewtwo

At this point not liking the roster is just your problem.
 

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I'm still skeptical of any more newcomers, if the leak is from an ESRB video why would they have a roster pic minus a 3-4 more characters? That doesn't even make sense. The speculation that there are more characters seems to be based around the fact that All Star mode is locked...but what does that have to do with anything if all this is coming from an ESRB video? Maybe in that particular screen shot the characters weren't unlocked yet.

The only way it makes sense is if this isn't from the ESRB, nothing else explains the shot of an incomplete roster to me.
 

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You know, I would've been convinced of this a few years ago. But today? Almost anything can be faked in this day and age, even stuff like that. And with the extent that Brawl has been hacked, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't been building this over the course of the two years since the first footage was released at E3.
For one, it isn't being displayed on actual 3DS hardware.
Secondly, the AI is dumber than a sack of bricks. Is anyone taking a look at those things? The AI in previous Smash games was a lot better than that. Combined with the fact that the "leaked" characters were only controlled by the computers, it's entirely possible that the "leaked" characters were operating on AI not their own (I'm pretty convinced Bowser Jr. is using Mega Man's AI and body frame, myself).
I'm sure by the time this replies I'll be ninja'd but

have you ever played brawl or melee with cpu's on level 1? they're about that good. Also, Someone hacking Bowser before seeing his smash 4 model/pose would be mighty impressive indeed.
 

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People still think this is fake? Seriously?

Was this discussed already:

Will there be more characters?
Yes supposedly. 5 to be exact.

Ridley and Dixie Kong are very likely since they were in a previous true Ninka leak, while we don't know the final three. Some people claim the final 3 to be MewTwo, Mach Rider, and Impa. However there is no proof of that.
 
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