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This is also what I meant! Create new characters out of excisting character using Custom Moves as set movesets for these characters.Custom moves are probably coming back to be incorporated with the amiibo, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of them be used to make more clone characters.
I could see Dragonite over Charizard with at least dragon rush over flare blitz.
Maybe Phantom Ganon over Ganondorf with Warlock Blade and Wizard's Dropkick, etc.
And to get Palutena's customs in even in customs off mode would be awesome
, or Koopalings . They could be fleshed out far more, and I'm starting to become a Alph supporter here reading the ideas for Rock Pikmin Alph! And with the Koopalings, just a few differences in speeds, weights, heights and other statistics would work wonders for these characters. 
/- Dr. Luigi - Daisy (semi-clone) - Dry Bowser (semi-clone, perhaps taking on some moves Bowser no longer has like his old F-Smash and NAIR.) - (Updated to a semi-clone) - Toon Zelda (semi-clone similar to how was handled) - Impa (semi-clone) - (Bring it back cuz wynaut? And I just like Pichu. 
) - Blood Falcon - Ninten (semi-clone with specials based on healing/support PSI) - (Wario Land version as a semi-clone) - (Clone with Rock Pikmin) - Tails (semi-clone)/ - Leif and Alm - Chrom (provided they overhaul Lucina with a decent number of differences from )- Doc Louis (semi-clone) - Roll, Proto Man, or even X (I actually did make a semi-clone moveset for X a while back using weapons from the X series that closely resemble many of MM's moves in function.) - Ms. Pac-Man - Ken - Jeanne - Dixie; I'd actually prefer if Dixie got mostly her own attacks. They could still use Diddy's model as a base and maybe have a few similar attacks, but I'd like to see her use more attacks with her hair, and there are some moves on Diddy that just don't fit Dixie imo. - Dark Samus - Similar to Dixie, using the same model as a base and borrowing some attacks would be fine, but I do think that DS would lend itself better to having more differences for both specials and normals. 
Tom Nook should just take on the Tanooki suit attributes tbh
The tipper differences between Marth, Roy and Lucina make them all so much drastically different in the way you have to approach them. It's why people who are good with one of them is not necessarily good with the others.
Considering you just called Alph a Fire Emblem characters' name, I think you've been discussing a lot of Fire Emblem!
I can't recognize any of them, but this is really neat!Are we still doing palette swaps like we did during Brawl and Smash 4 development?
One of my more 'out there' hopes. Every costume at least somewhat references some other part (though some only very loosely) of the franchise. Can you recognize them all?
All we need to do is wait for FF7HD to release and port the model.If Cloud Strife makes it back, he needs this costume...
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Are any of us even gonna still be alive when that releases?
Adding in crossover outfits like that would have been a goldmine for Ninty. If Robin gets any outfit from FF it should probably be the Red Mage outfit though, Zelda's the resident Black Mage here. Also a White Mage Peach outfit
I completely agree on the crossover outfits being a goldmine opportunity.
makes it back in I'd like to see skin swaps for Liquid Snake, Raiden and Big Boss. With all of them having unique codecs and a special one if you have liquid, snake and Big Boss on the field at the same time.
an alternate skin for . I'd hardly use it but i thought it'd be fun. & until all links are represented. Something similar for too. into protoman into Masahiro Sakurai
I don't think using Raiden as a skin for Solid Snake would work. Thanks to Metal Gear Solid 4 and Metal Gear Rising, Raiden would be better off as a semi clone with a sword or being a unique character. Big Boss during his younger years (MGS3, Portable Ops, and Peace Walker.) could work as a skin.If
Dammit man! You stole pretty much all my ideas before I could even post them!!If we've moved onto clones then I actually have quite a few:
Seemingly obvious choices I didn't use.
Other Fire Emblem characters - You could go on all day listing possible contenders so I'd rather not for now.
Actually that's not true, game was revealed last direct for Japan.
Alts, costumes, and clones huh? I’ve done this before and I will again.As the title says, this thread is all about discussing what potential alternative character slots we might get in Smash Switch. Think the Koopalings, Alm, and even likes of Lucina and Dark Pit. Dr.Mario-like clones can be discussed in here as well but are not the main focus.
I think it was neat about Sm4sh that we had quite a lot of these, but they where not used to their full potential. Sure in some cases there was just a swap of gender, but even that was a nice touch. It still took voice clips and modelling work, so it's still nice that they took that extra time considering it's lukewarm reception.
I have quite a lot of ideas for these alternative character slots, and potential clones. Combined with Custom Moves, it can make a character who's old and establised get a total new playstyle, almost a semi-clone. Which I think is awesome potential and could give us about 10 characters more to the roster, or at least the satisfaction of having 10~ new (clone) characters.
And there's quite a lot of popular characters to work with as well. And it really helps to add in a lot of new characters from franchises who are not very likely to get an all togheter new addition. So it really kills even more than 2 birds in one stone I feel.
Now for the actual characters... I'll post my ideas first, and then use this OP to measure the most popular of ideas as this thread grows.
Star Fox Zero is again, another Star Fox 64 remake and I guess that's what this franchise is gonna be all remembered about for eternity. So Peppy Hare and Slippy Toad thus become more likely. James McCloud can also be mentoined but he's far less important. If Fox and Falco are of similar builds, I could see Slippy as a Falco alternative swap easily, especially since frogs are also well known of jumping high. Peppy Hare in just younger years could be somewhat more like Fox. I think this is a far more likely scenario than StarFox getting a new character. (R.I.P. Krystal
Let's start this of by saying that this isn't the only way Impa can be included, and it's definitely not the number one idea for her inclusion for me. She has a lot of potential, but seeing Impa isn't really present in all Zelda games and isn't always a young warrior but also an old woman she isn't a safe pick.
Impa as a Sheik alternative could work with both her Ocarina of Time and Skyward Sword designs and both would make sense as such a character swap. OOT Impa due to the very fact that she's the one who trained Zelda to be Sheik. And Skyward Sword Impa due to her importance in the timeline, and the fact we MIGHT just one day get Skyward Sword HD.
There's also the possibilty of Impa getting her own slot as a Hyrule Warriors character, cause that Impa would be far more unique than the others. But unfortunately, I don't think it's alltogheter likely. Hyrule Warriors was a hit though, and a fighting game, and Impa was quite important in it. I'll just mentoin it here to show how flexible of a character Impa actually is.
Also, outside of maybe Midna, I don't see any other Zelda character to be a likely candidate same with StarFox's roster. So these are a good way to compensate for the lack of a true newcomer.
I'll admit, I know next to nothing about this character. I do know however, that outside of Bandana Dee there isn't really anything from the Kirby series that's likely to be included. Which is a shame, but Galacta Knight could be an alternative choice. His sword / lance thing should be a little tweaked cause it looks longer than Meta Knight's sword, and they might have to ditch the shield, but otherwise I think it's a good idea.
If nothing else, make him a Boss type character based on Meta Knight's basic moveset.
Yes Alm might also have distinct abilities from Marth, but he's the very first Fire Emblem Lord to really be based of Marth's basic design so that's a nice throwback. FE2 gets it's remake, and since Chrom wasn't considered "special enough", why would Alm?
Not only Alm could get included in this way, other Lords also could be an alternative character to Marth, like Seliph, Leif or even the likes of Eliwood.
Moving on:
I suppose Chrom can get his chance this time? Getting knocked out by Captain Falcon before the events of Smash 4 was laughable, and actually a good choice made by Sakurai. However, if Lucina gets a few tweaks from Marth to differenciate her a little, that could open a way for Chrom to I guess. They fight exactly the same in Awakening after all.
Also, it seems he's became more popular since Awakening, and he's a playable character in Fire Emblem Warriors. If Smash Switch is a direct port, he becomes even more likely cause of that because he's got a near damn perfect model going on.
I also think he could work as a palette swap for Ike due to their builds...
I don't want to waste too many words on this, but I guess Daisy is very popular. She even got a Mii costume, and has been Peach's first palette swap ever since Melee. She's hugely popular for some reason, and would work well with Peach's basic moveset.
Just replace anything with heart effects to a flowerly sort of effect and boom, there's Daisy.
I don't support her on any other way, but this is a good idea as far as alternative characters go. Far less exicted about her than just about any other potential alternative character however, but it works for her so she should be listed.
Face it, there's literally no chance for another F-Zero character ever. So we might as well use this, as it was handed to us and forced on us much like Peach's Daisy costume.
So that's just to give you a fair share of ideas what I had personally. I'll record the total number of characters suggested under this post if this thread becomes lively. As a general rule however, only use characters from the same series as alternative characters.
