Possible Oversights of 2nd Brawl Trailer!!!

[Creo]

...that was stupid...

 

[Caael]

After looking at the trailer, am I the only thinks every character is becoming too powerful? I mean pretty soon there will be no balance,and even the tiniest hit will send characters flying.

1. All of the attacks that send people flying look to be Smash Attacks
2. We didnt see a damage meter so we couldnt tell what damage they were on.

 

[Creo]

...heh...he's right.

 

[Fawriel]

And Sakurai said something about attacks becoming weaker... well, he did mean SOME attacks, but I guess nobody will be exaggeratedly powerful this time.

 

[squaminator]

also, an oversight. you may not think so, but the rising game is really important.

so... in the link part, link gets up without invincibility, or without the blinking, slowly, like being over 100%.

also, there are a few more falls in the GDC trailer, but they all appeared to be normal missed techs into rolls.

 

[Creo]

(Fawriel)Yes, like Ganondorfs 26% A attack or Peach's uber powerful down A that does 75%.

 

[Banks]

it only does alot if you cc it, which would be your own fault.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Which move is the 26% move with Ganondorf?

 

[Banks]

must be his jab

 

[Chi's Finest]

LOL at how people thought that was Marth in the ending of the trialer. The sword being in the left hand, the shield in the right, and most imprtantly the character is wearing GREEN.

 

[squaminator]

so, nobody cares that link gets up without invincibility during the snake part? maybe its a different animation for being spiked at low %age? (the former animation was just flailing for a moment.)

 

[Banks]

thats an amazing observation squam, no invicibility when getting up. we have just been pwned.

 

[squaminator]

when i go back and look at it again, it seems like he fell to the ground without techig, and thats how you get up nowadays. teching might still have invincability.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

It looks more like he just bounced. You can do that in SSB64 and Melee.

 

[squaminator]

i meant when snake was fighting PIT, not link. pit actually tries to get up, but snake gets him in the middle of it.

sorry for the mixup.

alos, in the last scene, it looks like link, not marth. you may have mixed up the cape for the flowing cap and the slash for link's up+b in the air.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Yea I did mix up Link and Marth. Someone said it looked like Marth, and I wanted to believe it bad so I got excited and put it up. But I was hasty and should have double checked. It's not Marth, it's Link. Once again my bad.

And I'll look at the Pit thing. Is that the part with the rocket launcher?

 

[squaminator]

yeah, its the part with the rocket launcher.

 

[Banks]

i wonder though if thats just an unfinished glitch that they forgot about

 

[Milos]

it should also be noted tat Link's dAir doesn't pogo anymore....

EDIT FOR TIME: 20 seconds into the first trailer

 

[Banks]

i wonder if link will still be as bad as he is in melee =p

 

[Fawriel]

No pogo? That would suuuuck.

And Link is AWESOME. *growls*

 

[Zodiac]

2> Link's B (Bow and Arrow) seems to shoot possibly at full strength almost immediately. During Snake's portion of the video, while Snake jumps up on the platform where Link is, Link *begins* to charge his bow and releases the arrow which flies quickly and at a very minimal arc before being kicked from behind by Snake. It appears to have gone much farther and faster than would have been launched, if charged for the same amount of time, in Melee. *Also, Link's Smash Up A is significantly faster than it was in SSBM as well. (Thanks go to Ecstatic)ed it is difficult to tell what is happening, but this gives us clue on what Snake's moves may be. (Thanks go again to Ecstatic)

full power you say. Hello short hop fast fall arrow spam.

 

[Banks]

SHA, too good. I can picture the top tier link right now. thatd be the day, since he was nowhere near the best in both games.

 

[Milos]

It could be that they pulled a paper mario with link and made so that you have to hit A at a certain point while you're hitting them with DAir in order for it to pogo, if this is the case, it could turn into an infinite O.o

 

[Banks]

well even if they did that itd only be done if they hit th4e person and if they go flying you wouldnt be able to pogo them infinitely.

 

[Milos]

true but if you got good at timing the A and good at continuously hitting them, you could get them 4 or 5 times if they had low health....

 

[Banks]

yea thatd be cool test of reflex

 

[Caael]

*bump*

I was watching the second trailer just now, and although many people must have notices, you see metaknight dodge kirby's up B abt 56 seconds in. I didnt see a shield though, but thats definate confirmation of dodging.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Yes, dodge rolling all around seems to have been made much quicker. Maybe not for everyone (like Samus, who is infamous for her slow dodge-rolling) but for most characters it seems to move faster.

 

[StarshipGroove]

Well, I have noticed a few things:

-when Pit splits the bow into daggers, it makes the ka-ching sound heard in the first trailer when he did the same thing.
-the exact instant before Wario is hit by the racing car, he does a weird rotation move that could be his downward aerial attack.
-Pikachu's down smash has a immense hitbox now (in fact Pikachu himself looks quite big in that part)
-the hit-sparks that appear when you hit someone give off a brief ring of light that points in the direction in which the opponent is knocked back. It is most noticeable when Kirby does an up-smash on Mario and Link, on the last hit of Mario's tornado and when Zamus kicks Link with her moves.
-Mario's forward smash has doubled its range.
-When Mario hits Kirby with the meteor smash, Kirby lands immediately on his feet. This is interesting, it could be the end of techniques like Falco's pillaring.

 

[IM_A_HUSTLA]

im pretty sure this has been discussed but doesnt Snake WD like right b4 he does the rocket launcher, I mean it could be a rol, but it looks something like a WD cus he still had to turn around and i thought when u roll behind someone they face ur opponent automatically???

sorry if this has been asked

 

[Creo]

Your being HUSTLED kid. Tsk Tsk. No one can say that answer.

 

[IM_A_HUSTLA]

ha, I'm being hustled but u bought a wii about a year too early!!

i was just asking a question that probably can be answered but not by u!

so dont answer if u dont know what ur talking about!

and im not a kid, youngster!

 

[WR3K]

TP made the first day a fine day to buy a wii.... kid

 

[AxemRed]

All three of those were pointless.

Hustla, I'd say it's like Mewtwo's roll from Melee, but that's just my guess.

 

[Creo]

TP and SPM and RS...shall I go on.
I know what I am talking about and no one can actually confirm if it is a WD kid.

 

[Devastlian]

Alright...Snake up-tilts, rolls around Pit, dashes forward, and dash-cancels into a down-smash. A star appears before the roll and he turns around so that can't be a wavedash and the little white, triangular dash clouds appear when he dashes so that can't be a wavedash either.

 

[smash~bomber]

People are using the fact the the swordsman is lright-handd as proof that it's not link. Keep in mind that this is TP Link so he is right-handed.

keep in mind that TP was released on both the Wii and GCN, (was originally for GCN) also, the Wii version is mirrored ffrom the GCN version, because a majority of players are right handed, that's why tp on wii has a right handed link. get your facts straight next time.

 

[VA]

Something about the first video...probably not suitable to be posting it here but I am not botthered with searching for a thread about the first video.

0:33 - 0:34: The trail on Marios fireball causes Pikachu to flash as if he has taken some fire damage, no knockback or stun inflicted but possible damage.

Probably been noticed before buuuut I thought it was worth mention.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

That's interesting VA, I'll take a look into that...