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Politics Thread No. 2
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Toby.
Smash Master
I get first vote. Excellent.
xXArrowXx
Smash Champion
i think when it happened in england a party pulled out and they revoted..
as usual cbf getting a source.
as usual cbf getting a source.
Toby.
Smash Master
Yes indeed Mic. I think that it's unlikely, though.
abhishekh
Smash Journeyman
I don't think a revote will happen.
- The Liberals apparently screwed over independents a while back, so I don't think they'd be very willing to side with them
- There's already a few confirmed to go with Julia Gillard
I think there's a good chance she's got this.
- The Liberals apparently screwed over independents a while back, so I don't think they'd be very willing to side with them
- There's already a few confirmed to go with Julia Gillard
I think there's a good chance she's got this.
Abbott doesn't want to reveal Treasury costings at the risk of the savings hole being an error on his own party's admission.
Abbott casts 'doom' on himself.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/they-asked--and-received-20100825-13s7b.html
"The scrapping today, however, will be over what Abbott would not agree to - the independents want his promises officially costed.
It's not surprising he is resisting this. If Treasury/Finance found holes in them - as is very likely - this would undermine not just Abbott's credibility but his pitch to the independents.
Abbott's line that the public service can't explain opposition policies as well as Coalition spokesmen (or its accountancy firm) is spurious.
The Treasury would be costing the policies, not explaining them. And it was the Coalition that set up the process of having official costing of policies in campaigns. It is impossible to avoid the conclusion that Abbott didn't want to make himself hostage to someone else's arithmetic."
Abbott casts 'doom' on himself.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/they-asked--and-received-20100825-13s7b.html
"The scrapping today, however, will be over what Abbott would not agree to - the independents want his promises officially costed.
It's not surprising he is resisting this. If Treasury/Finance found holes in them - as is very likely - this would undermine not just Abbott's credibility but his pitch to the independents.
Abbott's line that the public service can't explain opposition policies as well as Coalition spokesmen (or its accountancy firm) is spurious.
The Treasury would be costing the policies, not explaining them. And it was the Coalition that set up the process of having official costing of policies in campaigns. It is impossible to avoid the conclusion that Abbott didn't want to make himself hostage to someone else's arithmetic."
Sirias
Smash Champion
Sex Party only. =]
EverAlert
Smash Master
Me too! :D
... mainly cause I cbf ordering all 84 seats or w/e it was on the senate paper tho. Still, I'd have put Liberal above Labor and they won the election so it all worked out in the end. xD
Not voting on this poll because I really don't know how it works or understand the implications (aside from that pesky 3rd one).
... mainly cause I cbf ordering all 84 seats or w/e it was on the senate paper tho. Still, I'd have put Liberal above Labor and they won the election so it all worked out in the end. xD
Not voting on this poll because I really don't know how it works or understand the implications (aside from that pesky 3rd one).
Leisha
Top Tier Pillow
I don't understand this whole election thing. I thought its supposed to be based on who gets the most votes from the community? =/
But now they've just got these 3 independents in power, and i got a bad feeling they're going to make a very bad choice..
But now they've just got these 3 independents in power, and i got a bad feeling they're going to make a very bad choice..
undead_moose
Smash Lord
Abbot is ********. Gillard says negosciate. There needs to be a gay sex party. The country would then become fabulous.
Basically they had to have a certain number of seats to 'win' the election, but because some independants got those seats, they have to bargin with those independants to get them to join their team so they can win.
But it's not bad. those three are doing this slow, making the smart decisions, getting things that the people they represent want, which is a lot better than generic labor/liberal guy who'll just be voting yes on everything their team makes. The independants will be holding a lot of power and be able to stop the government bringing in a lot of ******** stuff.
Sirias
Smash Champion
Sex party has homo crud in it, basically. The heck are you on?
dainbramage
Smash Journeyman
Also if they put labor in power they'll be voted out of their own electorates next federal election.
xXArrowXx
Smash Champion
ASP has some good policies.
abortion is the worst one.
euthinasia is tolerable.
gay marriage is good for equal rights....
abortion is the worst one.
euthinasia is tolerable.
gay marriage is good for equal rights....
Because the coalition's so much better. [/sarcasm]
dainbramage
Smash Journeyman
I'm not of that opinion; but their electorates all have exceedingly low labor primary vote.
undead_moose
Smash Lord
Do we have a goverment yet? Jesus. I was listning to one inderpendent on the radio at work. Sounded like a total ****uuuur
Melancholy
Smash Ace
Scrubs
Smash Lord
Both Gillard and Abbot have shown terrible leadership skills and both are just pandering to focus groups.
AND
Both parties have terrible policies
Labor - Mining Tax, Citizens Assembly
Liberal - Removal of Marine Protection Laws, NBN Alternative
What a fail election!
Bob Brown for PM
Also No Government = Time to Loot
AND
Both parties have terrible policies
Labor - Mining Tax, Citizens Assembly
Liberal - Removal of Marine Protection Laws, NBN Alternative
What a fail election!
Bob Brown for PM
Also No Government = Time to Loot
I'm not very smart
But i quickly skimmed a paper on the train
And it was about Abott and Bishop talking bout how they got 'dis
Kept talking about shadow ministers I was confused
But i'm under the impression we have minority abbott government now... from the paper
uh, whats a shadow minister?
But i quickly skimmed a paper on the train
And it was about Abott and Bishop talking bout how they got 'dis
Kept talking about shadow ministers I was confused
But i'm under the impression we have minority abbott government now... from the paper
uh, whats a shadow minister?
abhishekh
Smash Journeyman
Don't ever trust the Mx
It might be true, but just sayin'
Also the article was just about how Tony Abbott was like, "We got this in the bag, there is no way Labor can win. We're just waiting, really."
So where are all you 'economic rationalists?'
Tony Abbott's budget costings have been confirmed by Treasury to have somewhere between a $7 - $11 billion defecit. He did have something to hide and he lied to everyone before by trying to shift the blame -- that was a huge tactical error in respect to trust. he should have just 'fessed to the error. At least the current Labor tells you they plan to spend lots of money and knows how to count. Nothing beats a transparent government.
Tony Abbott's budget costings have been confirmed by Treasury to have somewhere between a $7 - $11 billion defecit. He did have something to hide and he lied to everyone before by trying to shift the blame -- that was a huge tactical error in respect to trust. he should have just 'fessed to the error. At least the current Labor tells you they plan to spend lots of money and knows how to count. Nothing beats a transparent government.
undead_moose
Smash Lord
Gay adoption bill passed through the lower house in nsw by 44 to 42. Possible step in the right direction?
S.D
Smash Master
So much for Libs claims about saving 13 billion or so as compared to Labor's surplus - I think this was most telling.
Reporter: Do you endorse Tony Abbott as Lib leader
Peter Costello: Well not on economic matters.
Abbott hides behind spokespeople and has no real understanding of his own policies, that being said I think people are under the impression he knows whats up...
Reporter: Do you endorse Tony Abbott as Lib leader
Peter Costello: Well not on economic matters.
Abbott hides behind spokespeople and has no real understanding of his own policies, that being said I think people are under the impression he knows whats up...
Bsrk_
Smash Ace
Wait people actually trust their government_? It's all BS either way since there is no real right or left wing parties anymore and it all just comes across as **** stroking to me_ Say one thing and do another i mean at least Howard did what he said he would do even if it pissed people off_
Gillard is too busy trying to butter people up and trash talking Liberal and Abbott is too busy trying to make himself look like the cool cat and coming out the dooshbag when he messes up_ Australia needs a shake up cause politics are getting boring fast and it feels like people are losing faith in the politcal options available to them_
Gillard is too busy trying to butter people up and trash talking Liberal and Abbott is too busy trying to make himself look like the cool cat and coming out the dooshbag when he messes up_ Australia needs a shake up cause politics are getting boring fast and it feels like people are losing faith in the politcal options available to them_
SummonerAU
Smash Lord
*puts on tin foil hat*
abhishekh
Smash Journeyman
Rofl, did anyone see the Liberal Party's financial spokesperson (or whatever) get interviewed on Q&A?
It was hilarious. The liberal party have no idea what they're doing.
It was hilarious. The liberal party have no idea what they're doing.
C~Dog
Smash Champion
Vote Facism!
GST was good for us.
Howard was in for 11 years. Only one person stayed in longer than him and that was Menzies. So I think Howard did a pretty good job according to the people.
Plus those amazing eyebrows.
xXArrowXx
Smash Champion
so labour has got that good alliance with the inderpedant...
ive seen 2 reports on the matter. a very bias liberal one and a very bias labour one :/
i wish the news told me the **** what is going on... without me having to research -,-
ive seen 2 reports on the matter. a very bias liberal one and a very bias labour one :/
i wish the news told me the **** what is going on... without me having to research -,-
Politics coverage from ABC News is one of the most mainstream, least politically biased source of news and opinions. Antony Green is one of the best political analysts as well.
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/
Fairfax coverage (The Age, SMH, Brisbane Times) have a left-leaning agenda and News Corp (Herald-Sun, Sun-Herald) tend to adjust their political views to whatever is more popular and readable. The Australian makes left-leaning supporters want to gouge their eyes out.
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/
Fairfax coverage (The Age, SMH, Brisbane Times) have a left-leaning agenda and News Corp (Herald-Sun, Sun-Herald) tend to adjust their political views to whatever is more popular and readable. The Australian makes left-leaning supporters want to gouge their eyes out.
abhishekh
Smash Journeyman
The financial review is supposed to be pretty unbiased, but that's fairfax as well so w/e
Bsrk_
Smash Ace
Yeah i did see that although people don't realise that The Greens are semi allied with Labour and also have some fairly questionable political views_ I still couldn't bring myself to vote Greens_