Pokemon Researcher Reformation and Discussion Thread

[UltiMario]

As all of you have noticed, the "Pokemon Researcher" Title is having problems. There are people that have it that have never Posted or really even contributed to the Pokemon Center. There is also the trouble that, due to Smogon, the title means nothing in terms of set researching. The result? Pokemon Researcher means absolutely nothing. It is not a title of any sort. It is just a brown coloring to your name, regardless of what you have done.

Blank Researchers
KageMurhpy
BEHR
outofdashdwz
TheReflexWonder
YagamiLight
Zrky
NJzFinest

Now, I prepose a reform, along the lines of this:

THE IDEA​

Now, first of all, we would need to get rid of any researcher than does not go to the forums, or does not contribute to the community in way to demonstrate extensive Pokemon knowledge. Next, we modify the Pokemon Research Sub-Forum for the time being be modified to serve two roles:
A. SmashCAP discussions/polls/etc stored there.
B. Serious Pokemon Discussions (for example, a very current topic on Smogon is that Deo-D might get tested, and be brought down to OU. Pokemon researchers could discuss this topic in there). These serious discussions can also be expanded upon when the 5th Gen rolls around to its old "Work on movesets" until the metagame stablizes.

It would allow Researchers to bring up topics that require only serious discussion, etc.
I also would like to bring up some old topics as well that need to be finished up through this, like SmashCAP1's sprite and movesets.

Feel free to share ideas you have about this topic in the thread.

There one, and only one rule for posting, though:
No making stupid or joking remarks. This is..... *sigh*.... serious business.

 

[Fuelbi]

I concur.

Since this reform is gonna probably happen, I'll finally get to start posting seriously now :D

I think we should start by taking away the title from people who have never been to the PC before

 

[SilentVerse]

I also agree with this. One thing that bugs me though is the combination of the Smash CAP threads and the serious discussions. I personally feel that the Smash CAP should have a seperate sub-forum (if possible) as it just seems like the Smash CAPs would sort of clutter up the reformed Pokemon Research sub-forum. Other than that, I like the idea.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

As I've stated before, I wonderfully thought up idea.

One thing I wanted to emphasize on was that these "Blank Researchers" need to be removed without warning, and they can re-attain their title when they meet the requirements. I've seen some Researchers suddenly make a post in the PokeCenter just recently, but then they don't post anything else afterwards.

Also, we could be renamed "Pokemon Elites," or "Pokemon League," or "Elite Four." Just starter suggestions.

-Terywj

 

[UltiMario]

As I've stated before, a wonderfully thought up idea.

Fix'd

One thing I wanted to emphasize on was that these "Blank Researchers" need to be removed without warning, and they can re-attain their title when they meet the requirements. I've seen some Researchers suddenly make a post in the PokeCenter just recently, but then they don't post anything else afterwards.

Whilst Spire may not be up for it, we really need to push this along. These Blank Researchers are probably the biggest reason why our name means next-to-nothing as of now.

Also, we could be renamed "Pokemon Elites," or "Pokemon League," or "Elite Four." Just starter suggestions.

Oooh, I actually really like "Pokemon League"

 

[Charmander]

Maybe Pokemon League Member
Otherwise its emphasizing that you are a pokemon league XD

 

[UltiMario]

We were talking about the user group name as a whole, I guess.

 

[Player-4]

I also agree with this. One thing that bugs me though is the combination of the Smash CAP threads and the serious discussions. I personally feel that the Smash CAP should have a seperate sub-forum (if possible) as it just seems like the Smash CAPs would sort of clutter up the reformed Pokemon Research sub-forum. Other than that, I like the idea.

I agree with all of this. I myself just earned the title but I will actually contribute, plus I have a good amount of knowledge in Pokemon. I even posted a new Metagross lead suggestion if anyone cares.

 

[Circa]

Well as a whole we basically would be a Pokemon League. Pokemon League Member just seems like too long of a title anyway. Elite Four is bad because it implies that there are only four of us. I do approve of Pokemon League though.

Ooo...PBR. Pokemon Back Room. That's what this room could be renamed even though others can view it. It will still have a sense of exclusivity, so I think the name is fitting.

Stickying non-CAP topics that are in current discussion will help flesh out the clutter that will inevitably be caused by the mixture of CAP and serious discussion. And when a topic is basically done with, just unsticky it and let it fall to the back with the past SmashCAP topics. I think that's the best we can do with what we currently have, so that is my suggestion.

Past that, all I can say is don't listen to me when it comes to choosing who should keep the title. I'd likely be the most cutthroat and nazi-like on the subject, and I'm assuming that's not what you want.

 

[UltiMario]

I say that we would just make a "SmashCAP Database thread" that has links to all threads and polls for SmashCAP.

 

[Circa]

****, that beats my idea. Let's do what you said. It makes a whole lot more sense anyway.

 

[SpiredMoth]

I like "Pokemon League" as a new name.

making a thread that links to all the SmashCAP threads still doesn't deal with the burying of the pokemon specific threads already in here. A new subforum for SmashCAP would keep all the threads together while keeping this room somewhat neat.

/2¢

 

[Charmander]

We were talking about the user group name as a whole, I guess.

Oh, then I like pokemon league.
Just make sure it says Leaugue member or something under your name instead of pokemon league XD
I am gonna learn a bit more on serious discussion, I am waaaay better at aesthetic things like spriting, smashCAP, etc.
I think I deserve the title right? I post often here.

 

[Mewter]

Ultimario, Terywj, your ideas rock.
I like the separate Smashcap subforum idea (Silent Verses' version), "Pokemon League" title, and crack-down on the Pseudo Researchers.

Maybe the Researcher list should just be cleared so that the group can start with a blank slate. Anyone who even cares about joining will rejoin anyway, and knowing whether or not they are frequent posters in the Pokemon Center should be easy enough.


What should the qualifications be in order to join the group?

 

[Player-4]

Why is everyone going on about changing our title so much?

I think we should focus on cleaning up the board/threads and the members. The whole title changing isn't even important.

 

[Charmander]

What should the qualifications be in order to join the group?

To post often in the pc
Own or have owned a pokemon game
to have posted in either the competitive battling or smashcap section more than once

Spoiler

Join the spire fanclub

 

[WouW]

To post often in the pc
Own or have owned a pokemon game
to have posted in either the competitive battling or smashcap section more than once

Spoiler

Join the spire fanclub

What exactly do you mean by the 'competitive battling' section?

 

[Fuelbi]

What exactly do you mean by the 'competitive battling' section?

I think he means either the rating room or the researcher room...

 

[UltiMario]

Heres my golden standard for requirements:

"The user shows that he or she has in-depth knowledge in Pokemon as demonstrated in discussions in regular Pokemon Center threads, the RMT Forum, and SmashCAP threads"

Anyone that disagrees, please say so.

 

[Mewter]

That sounds good to me. Sounds strict enough to work, but it's not that difficult to achieve.

I guess that means I lose my Researcher title though, since I (almost) never post in the RMT threads.

 

[Circa]

I'd assume strong regulars would keep the titles as well. I would consider that an alternative method of achieving the role, considering that a regular would at least know the goings-on of the Poke Center rather well, and I'd personally consider that good enough.

But maybe that's just me. I agree with UltiMario's criteria though.

 

[Fuelbi]

I agree with Writer.

That would be a good alternative. Got a question though. Lets say you know competitive battling, but suck at it, like I do, would that constitute a taking away of your title?

 

[supermarth64]

I wouldn't necessarily say and because I don't participate in CAP discussions.

Maybe 2/3 or just "or"?

 

[UltiMario]

2/3 seems fair to me.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I say that we would just make a "SmashCAP Database thread" that has links to all threads and polls for SmashCAP.

Agreed. At the completion of SmashCAP 2 I will be making a SmashCAP Archive Thread, which will house the "final product" posts in one single thread. I'll have to reserve a good amount of posts, however. I'll talk to Spire about that when time comes.

Why is everyone going on about changing our title so much?

I think we should focus on cleaning up the board/threads and the members. The whole title changing isn't even important.

As UltiMario has stated before, we aren't really "Researcherss" since Smogon exists. I'd go more in-depth on this but I don't want to.

I'd assume strong regulars would keep the titles as well. I would consider that an alternative method of achieving the role, considering that a regular would at least know the goings-on of the Poke Center rather well, and I'd personally consider that good enough.

But maybe that's just me. I agree with UltiMario's criteria though.

Also agreed. People like IC3R (although he's been away lately) should still be able to maintain the title, etc.

-Terywj

 

[SilentVerse]

Heres my golden standard for requirements:

"The user shows that he or she has in-depth knowledge in Pokemon as demonstrated in discussions in regular Pokemon Center threads, the RMT Forum, and SmashCAP threads"

Anyone that disagrees, please say so.

I agree with this, but where do we draw the line for in-depth knowledge? Do you mean like actually doing something that would require such knowledge, or just simply showing that you know what IV's, EV's, and such are? In-depth knowledge isn't exactly specific, so we'd have to figure out what the requirements of in-depth knowledge is.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

In all honesty, if they were able to keep up (not literally) with everything that goes on in the PokeCenter with contributing posts, I'd assume that they know what they're doing.

Also, we have an AIM chatroom on this right now, although Chibo just went away, and Writer is playing Halo. Lol.

-Terywj

 

[SilentVerse]

That sounds fair, it seems like something that wouldn't be hard to do, but would require at least some knowledge.

And sadly, I don't have AIM.

 

[Player-4]

Heres my golden standard for requirements:

"The user shows that he or she has in-depth knowledge in Pokemon as demonstrated in discussions in regular Pokemon Center threads, the RMT Forum, and SmashCAP threads"

Anyone that disagrees, please say so.

AND SmashCAP? I don't know **** about SmashCAP, but I know a butt load about Standard play.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

SmashCAP. We create new Pokemon just like how Smogon does. Only we're cooler.

Join in on the discussions! I'll be posting up the next segments soon, actually.

-Terywj

 

[Player-4]

Lol I still don't know anything about it even if Smogon does it. I mean I'll help out with move pools ideas, stats, types, and so on if that's what you guys mostly do.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Basically we're creating unique Pokemon which a unique niche to fit into the OU Metagame.

Right now we're working on spriting, but movepool threads will be up very soon.

-Terywj

 

[Player-4]

Sounds fun

 

[UltiMario]

Mkay. Post so this thread doesn't die off into oblivion.

Now, Spire, whats your stance on this thus far? Have you been talking in your little back room or whatever and getting a reform like this going?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Is there a way to view all the Researchers?

That way we can filter out the blanks from the rest of us.

-Terywj

 

[WouW]

I think only Spire and Umbreon can see a full list of Pokémon Researchers.

 

[Mewter]

Maybe the list can be posted here so that we can all see it.
Or we could just go around and manually pick people out that have been parading brown names but haven't really done anything.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I think only Spire and Umbreon can see a full list of Pokémon Researchers.

Yeah I was thinking that. I'll talk to Spire about it.

Maybe the list can be posted here so that we can all see it.
Or we could just go around and manually pick people out that have been parading brown names but haven't really done anything.

That is the alternative option.

-Terywj

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Sounds good to me.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I sent Spire and IM about it just in case.

-Terywj