Pokémon Black and White (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[rockem7]

Hey I just remembered something I've always said. Rapidash should evolve into a Pegasus. Fire/Flying. What do you guys think? I mean it makes sense; pony>unicorn>pegasus.

They'd have to make Rapidash evolve at like 45-55 though, which would be weird because he isn't a pseudo-legendary. Idk. It'd just be weird to me.

 

[MikeKirby]

Not necessarily by LV, rockem7. Look at Piloswine>Mamoswine and Dusklops>Dusknoir

 

[rockem7]

Yeah, I thought about that after I posted it. A Rapidash Evo would be cool, but I think there are some other things that should be done first, like give evolutions/pre-evolutions to the ones that don't evolve already.

 

[E123-omega]

How come we haven't had a pure flying type yet?

 

[AzureWing]

That is a very good question. Well, Arceus CAN be with the right plate... but that doesn't count in my book.

 

[victra♥]

a pegasus would be really cool. Surprised there isn't one already yet.

also yeah. i never noticed how theres no pure flying type =p

 

[UltiMario]

From what I see Flying is nothing but a secondary type under the true attribute of the Pokemon.

See for example, Normal/Flying not being just flying. They're NORMAL (aka nothing special about them) Pokemon that can FLY.
But you go to say Zapdos and it's an ELECTRICAL Pokemon that can FLY.

etc

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Well, what would happen if a pure Flying type used Roost? It becomes ??? type?

That reminds me that I never really checked those idle animations in the trailer...

 

[Kofu]

Well, what would happen if a pure Flying type used Roost? It becomes ??? type?

That reminds me that I never really checked those idle animations in the trailer...

It does indeed become ??? for the remainder of the turn.

 

[RuNNing Riot]

It does indeed become ??? for the remainder of the turn.

And that's exactly what Nintendo dun't want. Having something become ??? type would just overcomplicate things.

 

[Javon89]

I kinda don't understand

Explain please?

 

[RuNNing Riot]

I kinda don't understand

Explain please?

Because ??? is not a type that's meant to be used at all in the games except for the move Curse (of which the type doesn't really have a big impact anyway). If we had this theoretical pure Flying type, and it used Roost, it'd be too confusing for people who'd have no idea about what the type is. And considering that it isn't even mentioned by the game that it's a ??? type now, that's be even more muddling.

The only exception to this would probably be something like the Zook CAP we're making right now. That doesn't form a ??? type in battle, it removes it for whatever the opponent has instead.

tl;dr - too difficult for little kids who are the age demographic to grasp.

 

[victra♥]

From what I see Flying is nothing but a secondary type under the true attribute of the Pokemon.

See for example, Normal/Flying not being just flying. They're NORMAL (aka nothing special about them) Pokemon that can FLY.
But you go to say Zapdos and it's an ELECTRICAL Pokemon that can FLY.

etc

but what about scyther? Its a BUG pokemon that can't FLY but is also a flying type?

related:

 

[UltiMario]

Arcues was almost given a ??? type, it's graphics are in the game so it was planned at one time.

This gen MIGHT be the time where it goes beyond idea though. :3

 

[Metal~Mario]

GF thought he would look cooler if he had wings.

Wings=Flying back in Gen 1.

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Arcues was almost given a ??? type, it's graphics are in the game so it was planned at one time.

You don't know that. Nintendo might have put it in so that it doesn't crash the game if some hacker hacked it to be a ??? type (if it didn't, the game would try to load a file that didn't exist and would subsequently freeze). That's the leading theory, if I recall.

 

[UltiMario]

Why would they make entirely new graphics for it when they could have just made it point to Normal Arceus' graphics when ??? type?

They wouldn't make new graphics if they only did it for the sake of hackers, they would only make new graphics if they were actually going to be seen.

 

[Metal~Mario]

^that.

Nintendo, like all companies, doesn't do things for no reason.

 

[Mewter]

Maybe just for something to look at when testing in development?
Ocarina of Time has arwing graphics in its code programmed as a flying enemy just for the testing.
No one saw it until they hacked.

Also, the remixed RSE music was found in HGSS (or was that Platinum?) Anyways, it was leftover stuff that was newly made.

 

[UltiMario]

But Game Freak doesn't make Zelda.

:/

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Perhaps making a new sprite would have simply been less time-consuming than reprogramming it to make ??? type an exception to the image change rule or something? Dunno. You'd have to ask somebody who knows more about programming than me.

 

[UltiMario]

They would have had it change to image XXX, where XXX is Arceus' normal image, rather than make a new one.

They programmed it in to use it, but didn't.

 

[Mewter]

Found the unused music in case anyone is interested in listening to it.
It's Lilycove's theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPLUJ-gk07I&NR=1

 

[UltiMario]

It's used for your Resort House.

Not unused.

 

[Mewter]

Whoops. My bad.
Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxDQmBZQ-ak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8YS9XOLlKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loqppQyHyRo @ 0:54 compared to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJXpRnzxIZI

Actual unused songs (?)

Editedit: Yeah, the last one is almost certainly legit.

 

[SolarChimecho]

The internet is a weird place sometimes

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2202/pokegirls.png

 

[Bowser_Gangsta]

OMG victra dodged. Im soo tellin...

 

[Greenstreet]

The internet is a weird place sometimes

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2202/pokegirls.png

Can't say I'm surprised.

 

[UltiMario]

I notice that one thing all those unused songs is
a. they're from the previous gen, not a gen before that.
b. they're relatively poor in quality (like, actual composition/instrument usage) as compared to other pieces of music in the same game.

It's relatively safe to say they tested songs by porting them because of a new sound engine, and simply never removed the tracks. If they had planned on using these tracks, they would sound more similar to the tracks in the games.

 

[CRASHiC]

How come we haven't had a pure flying type yet?

because, as I sated earlier, everything exist within relation to Normal. Something can not be pure flying because of this.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

because, as I sated earlier, everything exist within relation to Normal. Something can not be pure flying because of this.

*Cough* Air Plate Arceus *Cough*

 

[Mewter]

Alright Ultimario, you win.

So if you hack Arceus with Roost, it becomes the ??? type after using it?

 

[CRASHiC]

by that standard, there is a true ??? type too since a ??? plate is programed in the game

 

[Firus]

Alright Ultimario, you win.

So if you hack Arceus with Roost, it becomes the ??? type after using it?

Actually, I'm not sure what would happen. Wouldn't Arceus lose its type altogether, therefore not have a type, and crash the game when an attack is used that would calculate its type.

Or maybe it would crash when it tries to get rid of Arceus' type.

 

[JOE!]

my prediction of Dragonfite

 

[IsmaR]

Dragonite does need Close Combat.

 

[Greenstreet]

I like the boxing gloves, but I don't like the sprite of dragonite. Too... errr.. serious?

 

[Spire]

my prediction of Dragonfite

This is seriously my favorite Dragonite sprite, even with the gloves.

 

[Greenstreet]

mah fave.

 

[Pete278]

That reminds me, I hope Wobbuffet's sprite style goes back to pre-HGSS. I just don't feel the current Wobbuffet sprite. To compare:

It looks like he's laughing maniacally in the current sprite.