Pogeymafia: Red and Green - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in Kanto?

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why would you be so eager to lynch someone without discussion because they accidentally hammered someone?

Quoted For Emphasis

 

[Kirbyoshi]

We wouldn't be 100% guaranteed it was a mistake, would we now?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

The question is why a quick-lynch? That's entirely what we're trying to avoid doing with Xonar.

 

[Omis]

We wouldn't be 100% guaranteed it was a mistake, would we now?

So, to remedy a quicklynch, we do another one? What is your logic here?

 

[Omis]

Gah get ninjaed Omis

 

[Chaco]

Anything is technically debatable if someone makes a huge deal out of it. There was no reason to leave him at L-1. Scum self hammer to leave town with the least information possible. Even where they would have no way of victory, they could do it to spite the town.

You're simply wrong.

Is there anything wrong with a scum self hammer if it's at that point? What and how much information would you really be losing? Honestly, it could give you a better view. By looking at who's not on the wagon.

That point can truly go either way, and gives me an idea as to a game I'm currently in. I'm now going to go look at it. (Offsite)

Chaco, if you had quickhammered with your first vote, I would have called for your quicklynch toMorrow.

Hypocrisy abounds in Chaco.

There would be no reason if it were a mistake.

I can safely say no scum would accidentally hammer as a gambit.

Why would you be so eager to lynch someone without discussion because they accidentally hammered someone?

Honestly, because he lacks the experience to say otherwise. I'm not talking down on him, because I'm no means a mafia god. I tend to be either hit or miss.

 

[Chaco]

The question is why a quick-lynch? That's entirely what we're trying to avoid doing with Xonar.

Ryker, do you or would you support a quicklynch at any time?
How easily are you swayed by claims?
Do you feel that SWF Mafia is to reliant on Power Roles?

 

[Omis]

Why are you answering for Kirbyoshi? Are you trying to make up for his pitiful answer with your "better" one?

 

[Chaco]

Why are you answering for Kirbyoshi? Are you trying to make up for his pitiful answer with your "better" one?

Why have you answered for any person in the past? Less loaded questions please.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

This thread moves too ****in fast.

I'm glad we're debating new things now. Frustrated that I'm so lost lol.

Unvote: Xonar

 

[SwordsRbroken]

@everyone who are your top suspicions and why?

Still waiting for everyone that hasn't replied to my question to reply.

I'm going to take my vote off of xonar for now, but will re-vote later in the day if town thinks he is day's best lynch.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I can safely say no scum would accidentally hammer as a gambit.

I've seen it. Not on SWF, but I've seen it. Scum "accidentally" hammered, pleaded temporary insanity, lived to endgame, and won. Since then, I am determined to not let it happen again.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Whoops, i forgot. unvote

Chibo needs to post.

 

[Chaco]

I've seen it. Not on SWF, but I've seen it. Scum "accidentally" hammered, pleaded temporary insanity, lived to endgame, and won. Since then, I am determined to not let it happen again.

Link the game please.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Here ya go, Chaco:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12229

 

[Chaco]

Kudos to that guy. Lolllll

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ryker, do you or would you support a quicklynch at any time?
How easily are you swayed by claims?
Do you feel that SWF Mafia is to reliant on Power Roles?

Deadline.
Very few things can. Especially on Day 1. Masons who can confirm eachother's innocence and Stump are about it. Maybe Double-Voter.
No. Some players are, but not enough for me to think that SWF as a whole is too reliant.

 

[KevinM]

Chibo can go for being scummy.

Chaco can go for being useless and a problem in Lylo.

 

[Chaco]

Chaco can go for being useless and a problem in Lylo.

Funny you say that as you've done nothing. I love the sense of entitlement.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Chaco / Frozen, I asked both of you a question. What do you think about Meta-Kirby and my post about him?

@Kevin

Is Chaco more useless than Meta-Kirby and Omis? If so why? If not, why do you single him out? Keeping the FFVII spirit alive?

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Chaco / Frozen, I asked both of you a question. What do you think about Meta-Kirby and my post about him?

@Kevin

Is Chaco more useless than Meta-Kirby and Omis? If so why? If not, why do you single him out? Keeping the FFVII spirit alive?

Whilst you have a point, Chibo has been hunting for mewtwo when the trainers are clearly a bigger threat, which inclines me to think that he is a trainer.

But i do agree that meta kirby and omis have been less helpful than chaco.

 

[SummonerAU]

MY MIND IS FULL OF ****

why so many pages ;-;

Comments so far: Everyone is a pokemon except those who aren't pokemon.

 

[Chaco]

Chaco / Frozen, I asked both of you a question. What do you think about Meta-Kirby and my post about him?

@Kevin

Is Chaco more useless than Meta-Kirby and Omis? If so why? If not, why do you single him out? Keeping the FFVII spirit alive?

I commented on it already, Gheb.

 

[KevinM]

Funny you say that as you've done nothing. I love the sense of entitlement.

You could have accidently hammered, I don't like people without the proper amount of braincells in checking a vote count or refreshing a page before dropping a vote when the person is close to a lynch.

Simple as that.

I've already explained my suspicions on Chibo

the only thing you've done is play "super aggresive jab Chaco whom thinks that if he fights with everyone maybe he can be good at this game one day"

@Gheb: Not particularly more useless just that what I said above worries me.

 

[Chaco]

Thanks for the compliment! Still, that's around 20x more than you've done.

 

[KevinM]

Gheb do you have a legitimate case on MK you keep bringing him up, or are you just worried about his worthlessness?

Chaco, we're done with our back and forth you keep doing what you're doing.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Both, Kevin. I do have a (in my opinion) legitimate case against him and I want him to elaborate on my points. At the same time I think people are too quick to just label him as plain worthless. Yes, so far he has been worthless - I agree with that. But it's more than just that and I'm a bit worried about it because nobody seems to notice or agree with. Which makes me think that I'm probably wrong but I'm still waiting for Frozen's opinion as well.

 

[Chaco]

I don't entirely think you are wrong Gheb, you spotted a parallel meta from a game that he was scum in. I just don't feel that is enough at this time to pursue MK.

 

[Chaco]

Deadline.
Very few things can. Especially on Day 1. Masons who can confirm eachother's innocence and Stump are about it. Maybe Double-Voter.
No. Some players are, but not enough for me to think that SWF as a whole is too reliant.

Didn't reply back to this, oops.

Why are you against Quick Lyncing?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It cuts off the flow of information. The rare cases that a claim can affect things on Day 1 are reason enough to wait for one, but mostly it stops the town from continuing to investigate. When new evidence is brought to light, a better lynch can sometimes be found.

 

[CT Chia]

Back from my tourney yesterday among other things, catching up and posting later today

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

if i'm still the lynch today i'd like to claim to prevent having to switch wagons at the end of the deadline etc.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Xonar, you're not the lynch toDay. Not sure who the main lynch target is now, tbh.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Xonar, you're not the lynch toDay. Not sure who the main lynch target is now, tbh.

P.sure that you, me, Omis, and Xonar are the only ones who agree on that.

 

[Chaco]

Alright Kirby, who's the play and why are they a better play?

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Swords, for flipflopping.

MK, for lurking.

You, for justifying almost quick-hammering.

Almost anyone is a better lynch than Xonar atm.

 

[Ronike]

Must... Not... Insult... Promised... Chaco... But... So... Hard...

Kirby, you speak the collective town's interest almost as well as George Bush spoke our minds. Insert mean thing here (not for lack of thinking of them, but in the interest of being "nice")

xonar, I'd be interested in a claim if you can prove it. Otherwise, not interested.

Chaco is scummy too for all the reasons I'd be accused of parroting if I told you

 

[CT Chia]

Whilst you have a point, Chibo has been hunting for mewtwo when the trainers are clearly a bigger threat, which inclines me to think that he is a trainer.

But i do agree that meta kirby and omis have been less helpful than chaco.

Do you not read my posts? I never said I was hunting for Mewtwo. I said that Mewtwo was likely a bigger threat, but I was thinking from a different perspective (as trainers don't likely kill people and instead recruits them while Mewtwo removes from from the game). When it was brought up that trainers bring a double whammy to the town in losing a townie and gaining an enemy, I agreed that made perfect sense.

But beyond all that, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HUNT FOR A MEWTWO COMPARED TO A TRAINER?
I've said that at least once, if not multiple times. It's impossible on Day 1. They are all 3 independent anti-townies, none of them are masoned with anyone and all 3 are scumhunting as well. Until day 2 where trainers will have others on their team, there is nothing different between the factions in terms of how they act atm.

Chaco, if you had quickhammered with your first vote, I would have called for your quicklynch toMorrow.

Hypocrisy abounds in Chaco.

I really don't like the comment on the quick lynch. I've always seen quick lynching as a scummy action to get the day done asap with no communication. This early in the game - a quicklynch should never happen.

I've seen it. Not on SWF, but I've seen it. Scum "accidentally" hammered, pleaded temporary insanity, lived to endgame, and won. Since then, I am determined to not let it happen again.

I'm quite weary of this.

 

[KevinM]

Chibo > Chaco still

either one of those lynches I would support.

Xonar as a distant third.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I'm quite weary of this.

I'm sorry, did you mean weary or wary?