Pikachu vs Mk: a 6/4 matchup?

[[FBC] ESAM]

Was playing Seibrik's mk in a looong manly mm earlier this week.

Figured out something.... BIG

Making pikachu have a solid advantage over mk.


Vids will come up AFTER apex, and if I don't win it (and peaches don't get in my way), you can quote this and claim that I suck.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

this **** gayed me out of 5 bucks


only using wario, or ddd, in this matchup from now on.

****ING GAY

 

[Cassio]

Goddang it ESAM. You better not lose to a peach.

As for OP + title Im skeptical, although Pikas pretty gay so I wouldnt be too surprised if you found something. Guess we'll see.

 

[Ussi]

Here comes the unban MK brigade....

 

[Stealth Raptor]

cant wait to see

 

[Pikabunz]

Can you tell me at least? Is it MK specific?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

its very mk specific for some reason, but im not revealing it to anyone till after apex.

you'll see why!

oh, and please don't bother me about it at all, be patient and i promise it'll be worth it.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

It's funny because it won't matter much after Apex.

 

[zmx]

I'm going to go ahead and assume this is a large troll attempt. You'd think after 3 years if there was something drastically MU changing it would've have been found out by at least one other person by now.

The fact that Seibrik immediately responded also seems pretty fishy.

That being said I would love to see a pikachu (or pretty much anything but MK) win Apex.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

its not a troll, to be fair im still with him (we hung out for new years) and just figured it out tonight during the manly mm, we're both kinda excited about it, me cuz yay pika, him cause he thinks it might help mk get unbanned after apex (at least he hopes)

 

[Pikabunz]

MK shouldn't have been banned in the first place.

 

[zmx]

Lol well I'm not getting my hopes up too much. I would love for this to be true because it would make the URC seriously consider unbanning him and force people to admit MK isn't so broken after all.

But all the same it just seems SO unlikely, especially that it's discovered now when he's about to be banned. You must admit it's extremely hard to believe.

But playing Devil's Advocate, can you at least tell us if you've test this out thoroughly enough to conclude there's no way to break out of the tactic in question when executed properly? Meaning there's no way it could possibly fail against any MK?

 

[Djent]

6:4 ?!? This has got to be some form of infinite...if it's true.

Also, goddamnit, why do you always find new tech before nationals? Pulling D-Throw UAir out a week before DC, now this! Your timing is impeccable.

 

[Volt_Storm_7]

Esam, why do you have to tease us with valuable information?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

It isn't quite something you can "get out of" because it isn't something they can "be in"

 

[Strong Badam]

My penis got hard for a sec
and now it's flaccid

 

[Stealth Raptor]

agreed with prime. and its too late, even this wont unban mk no matter how good it is

 

[infiniteV115]

I bet it's not even something that Pikachu can do to MK
It's just something that ESAM can do to MK

 

[Nicholas1024]

Just quit losing to those blasted IC's , ESAM. Looking forwards to this new technique, whatever it may be.

Any chance it's applicable to other characters, or just MK?

(And on a completely unrelated note, I'm kind of amused that the guy above me has exactly 1,024 posts as of this typing.)

 

[Jimmyfosho]

April fools day is the first of April, not the first of January.

 

[Ussi]

ESAM you should be working on making that Olimar MU better

 

[~automatic]

Is this a frame trap, a glitch or something of the sort? Can you describe (or at least hint) why you believe it only works on MK?

My penis got hard for a sec
and now it's flaccid

[COLLAPSE="Pikapika for teh lulz"]

[/COLLAPSE]

I miss the old Xat.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

It's funny because it won't matter much after Apex.

agreed with prime. and its too late, even this wont unban mk no matter how good it is

Fortunately, the USA is the only place in the world where people play smash
And, really, I don't understand that attitude - how the **** is it "too late" to advance the metagame? This is as good a time as any other ... in case this isn't just trolling.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

Fortunately, the USA is the only place in the world where people play smash

Fortunately, the USA is the only place in the world where I play smash

 

[~automatic]

I've smashed in three countries.

 

[Faruko]

I've know about this for months. It's amazing how much bad you've gotten esam.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

Fortunately, the USA is the only place in the world where people play smash
And, really, I don't understand that attitude - how the **** is it "too late" to advance the metagame? This is as good a time as any other ... in case this isn't just trolling.

You just don't know the context of my statement. First off MK SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BANNED IN THE FIRST PLACE! Second off the people in "charge", the horribly corrupted URC won't ever unban. They catered to the mid level ie themselves and banned a not broken char so they might do better. Third off banning mk means the metagame will advance sans mk which will only make his dominance more pronounced if he is unbanned and then he's banned again.


Hopefully didn't come off too mad, I don't think you understood where my statement came from. I'm all for metagame advancement and even more for not hiding things, it could easily be argued that esam is holding it back so only he knows before the mk ban but I won't go there. Either way this tech won't matter mk is now permabanned

 

[~ Gheb ~]

It will matter everywhere except america, which is still the majority of the world. And I don't mind the "coming off as mad" part, I actually agree with your post.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

^ a point as an arrogant american i tend to forget loooooool. still wont unban mk

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

I bet it's not even something that Pikachu can do to MK
It's just something that ESAM can do to MK

This. Odds are that it isn't easy to do as Pikachu and people can't just pick up chu to do well against metaknight. Metaknight loses no matchups period, he is broken. A tech that could possibly give pikachu the advantage also will not unban him because there were multiple factors into mk getting banned. Anyone pro mk shut up, anyone pro ban you get a lolipop.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

+one pro mk, the only thing true about mk is he is overused which isnt the same thing as broken. if other fighting games banned chars as fast as bad smash players did every fighting game ever would have at least one banned char looool

 

[~automatic]

MK is overused; but he's undeniably the best character in the game.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

not saying he isnt, but best char =/= broken. i think pikachu is more broken in smash sixty four then mk is in brawl and pikachu was never banned

 

[AtneyB]

+one pro mk, the only thing true about mk is he is overused which isnt the same thing as broken. if other fighting games banned chars as fast as bad smash players did every fighting game ever would have at least one banned char looool

so this...

 

[Ussi]

ESAM, wouldn't this help other pikas do better vs MK at Apex? Any way you can just let the pikas know? (I'm still not confident in the Ike vs MK MU so I use Pikachu still for that)

 

[Captain L]

is it something that has to be practiced a lot? Or can it be implemented into play quite easily?

 

[Kaffei]

This. Odds are that it isn't easy to do as Pikachu and people can't just pick up chu to do well against metaknight. Metaknight loses no matchups period, he is broken. A tech that could possibly give pikachu the advantage also will not unban him because there were multiple factors into mk getting banned. Anyone pro mk shut up, anyone pro ban you get a lolipop.

Well that's obvious.. That's why you practice.

 

[Cassio]

That would require work and effort. People who cry about MK being too hard just want **** handed to them so you can see why theyd be opposed to that.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

WTF

Seibrik hacked my Smashboards for like the past 2 days, I didn't say any of this ****.

Sorry guys

Also, shame on you guys for thinking I wouldn't tell you. The ****, I tell you guys EVERYTHING when I figure it out.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Or they just have a grip on reality because the people who dilute themselves into thinking metaknight isn't broken are just arrogant because they thrive on the fact that it's still possible to beat him.