Pikachu isn't that bad on Luigi's Mansion

[[FBC] ESAM]

Hey, Me and Seibrik were just playing friendlies (we don't sandbag though) and we got Luigi's mansion, and then again. So, we decided to make it a set. After that, we went there for 3 matches and this was the result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEcH6mbo1ys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON6xeYHW0-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk10xy3n4Ws

Enjoy, and maybe your thoughts will change about this being Pikachu's worst stage.

Last 2 are up...i was ********, but now its fixed.

 

[J4pu]

i didnt see tornado once...
(only watched 1st match)

 

[Stealth Raptor]

um yeah. if i saw some actual tornado i would believe that. honestly luigis mansion isnt that bad for pika, but its still his worst stage.

 

[Pikabunz]

3 out of 4 of those matches were the same.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Yeah...I'm ********...don't ask.

BTW, he didn't use tornado becuase i have a thing called a shield...the 2 friendlies before we recorded the set i was shielding every one or just running away. They weren't very effective.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

if you can prevent the tornado then pika has the advantadge on this stage vs mk anyways, he cant kill you at all. and i would like to see these other matches that you sheilded before judging.

 

[Master Raven]

Tornado isn't very good vs. good Pikas.

 

[Pikabunz]

Um...prime..there are only 3 matches up there.

BTW, he didn't use tornado becuase i have a thing called a shield...the 2 friendlies before we recorded the set i was shielding every one or just running away. They weren't very effective.

The last vid is 2 matches.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Actually, according to the stage discussions, I believe that Brinstar is rated lower then Luigi's Mansion! Wouldn't that make Brinstar Pikachu's worst stage?

 

[neji32]

Nado will hit you if he baits your shield alot and ***** the top of it with nado. The mk needed work

 

[K 2]

Actually, according to the stage discussions, I believe that Brinstar is rated lower then Luigi's Mansion! Wouldn't that make Brinstar Pikachu's worst stage?

Those numbers are meant to be taken loosely. A large variety of factors (stage familiarity, character matchups, etc.) can affect how good pikachu is on the stage. The numbers offer a general idea of how good/bad a stage is for pikachu.

I haven't watched the videos yet, but Nado will be able to shield poke if the shield isn't 100% fully charged. If an MK knows how to pressure your shield, his nado will wreck you on luigi's mansion.

 

[supermario27mx]

I actually like Luigi's Mansion for doubles.
@Nick: Pretty much what K2 said. On paper Luigi's Mansion is Pikachu's worst level but no level is really that bad for Pikachu when you think about it. At least in my opinion.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Also remember, he isn't playing as gay as he possible could, and i was punishing his pressuring of my shield, which is why he grabbed more than anything. I'll put up some more matches of not luigi's mansion the next time he comes over so you guys can judge, k?

Nado will hit you if he baits your shield alot and ***** the top of it with nado. The mk needed work

You can move your shield and follow where the MK nados and it is a lot easier...it rarely hits me unless they get me in an airdodge...which didn't happen on this level.

 

[gallax]

dont forget to tilt your shield upwards when being hit by the tornado people.

truthfully, LM doesnt bother me that much. but brinstar does. man i cant stand that stage

lol. and i love how neji says seibrik needs work on his MK. hahaha. you're a funny guy man. he is only ranked number one in the state of FL and wins every tourney he goes to.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

just because you are the best in a single state doesnt mean you dont have stuff to improve on.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

just because you are the best in a single state doesnt mean you dont have stuff to improve on.

That's true, but i still can't find many things he can work on.

 

[Pika_Cam]

I guess it just depends who you're playing if LM is a good stage. I played a Donkey Kong there in tournament last month and got dominated. I should have banned it.

 

[Anther]

Late, but you always have the option to run away from tornado as pika, and if they only want to spam it, start breaking the house down. I'm standing by brinstar as one of pika's worst stages atm. It's not bad, but you just can't utilize most of your advantages except for your mobility.

 

[iRjOn]

ESAM i dont think you can make rulings off of ones persons experience.

But I agree that LM doesn't seem like the worse I'm a troll so what i say may be ignored but still
I think Anther is right Brinstar seems kinda bad to me but I can manage.

Another consideration is Norfair.

 

[Anther]

<3 iRjOn
I feel like norfair is one of pika's worst stages too. lol. o.o, I don't see what type of advantages he gains except it makes recovery easier for everyone, which is a minus to pika since he can edgeguard so well, and not be edgeguarded very well against in the first place...

 

[Deadweight]

<3 iRjOn
I feel like norfair is one of pika's worst stages too. lol. o.o, I don't see what type of advantages he gains except it makes recovery easier for everyone, which is a minus to pika since he can edgeguard so well, and not be edgeguarded very well against in the first place...

Really? I thought all the ledges made your ledgegame amazing....

 

[gallax]

i dont mind norfair at all. its bristar i hate.

 

[KayLo!]

Norfair is <3. Brinstar sucks, so does LM..... I still hate Mansion the most.

 

[iRjOn]

Yea Anther It seems to me that the opponent has extra ways to recover so it makes guarding the edge harder to me
It seems to lessen your edgeguarding game and up your recovery which is kinda pointless considering that your recovery is fine w/o it lol

 

[AranOcean]

Let's see, Thunder gets blocked by the Mansion, breakable walls intercept Thunder Jolt, Skull Bash, and many other moves, gay ledges, etc.

Spoiler

And Norfair is gay. D:<

 

[Stealth Raptor]

yet most of us love that stage lol

 

[AranOcean]

yet most of us love that stage lol

Intersting....

*hides in the "We hate Norfair" corner...alone*

 

[Stealth Raptor]

dont worry there are a few pikas that dont like that stage lol. you arent alone

 

[TLMSheikant]

I <3 norfair since It is pretty much my counterpick as Toon Link and pika is so good there too. <3

 

[ElPared]

I actually like LM a lot for pikachu. It's a great place to practice QAC because of all the solid surfaces, if you're good at QAC you can control most of the house with Tjolt, and when they house goes down it's a Giant FD. Awesome. Against MK it kinda sucks, but there you go. everything sucks against MK

oh yeah, if I sound like a n00b it's because I am

 

[Muhznit]

I hate LM because of one little slip up that happened once. I attempted to ledgedrop->Thunder, but guess what? THAT STUPID LITTLE GHOST-PLATFORM THAT APPEARS WHEN IT WANTS TO COMES IN TO INTERCEPT IT!

I was then distracted by the confusion of such an occurance and fell to my death.

 

[ElPared]

I hate LM because of one little slip up that happened once. I attempted to ledgedrop->Thunder, but guess what? THAT STUPID LITTLE GHOST-PLATFORM THAT APPEARS WHEN IT WANTS TO COMES IN TO INTERCEPT IT!

I was then distracted by the confusion of such an occurance and fell to my death.

oh yeah that **** thing... OK I take it back LM sucks. I hate Battlefield more tho since thunder's practically useless there. At least on LM you can tech off the solid ceilings and hopefully live longer, and there's always the option of smashing the house.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Pikachu doesn't HAVE to revolve around thunder...at least the blue part hitting you...The most practical use for Thunder is after a U-smash or U-tilt, and it doesn't matter if the blue parts hit you or not because they are gonna be high enough up so they can't punish you either way >_>

 

[Muhznit]

Pikachu doesn't HAVE to revolve around thunder...at least the blue part hitting you...The most practical use for Thunder is after a U-smash or U-tilt, and it doesn't matter if the blue parts hit you or not because they are gonna be high enough up so they can't punish you either way >_>

This is true, but not always is your opponent going to be high. Some will try recovering from down low, only to get 20,000 volts of rapetricity in their face.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

nvm i get it. Yeah, you are right, but then you can still normal edgeguard, you don't need thunder to edgeguard...pikachu has other moves people

 

[Stealth Raptor]

indeed you dont need to use thunder to be good with pika. i just find it my favorite move and would rather not let it get limited :s though jab locks are smexy, i dont think i am going to ban LM anymore.

 

[SilverSpark]

Late, but you always have the option to run away from tornado as pika, and if they only want to spam it, start breaking the house down. I'm standing by brinstar as one of pika's worst stages atm. It's not bad, but you just can't utilize most of your advantages except for your mobility.

I CPed brinstar against a campy Pit and Sonic. Pika's mobility combined with the acid rising and clearing away the main platform really helped :]