Pika Q&A/FAQ Thread: Ask a Quick Question, Get a Quick Answer!

[Ussi]

I've been wondering when it was gonna get locked. Its like the most active clan thread on SWF too looool

BTW you need to edit all the links in the group. Put the XAT link back on there D:

 

[Stealth Raptor]

yes i know. give me time lol. bookmark it like me ;o

ANYONE WHO READS THIS! click my name and join the high voltage clan social group. the thread getting closed doesnt bug me too much, but the social groups lack bbc code, and hence pictures and built in links. so yeah go join! there are TOO MANY PEOPLE for me to invite. this will also tell me who is interested in the clan. spread the word where you can. after a month, ANYONE not in the social group gets deleted from the clan. no matter who they are, minus mods.

 

[Ussi]

what no fair, just replace the mods if they don't join.

 

[gallax]

hey stealth i wouldnt mind be a mod or testing people. having more mods and needing more plus's might be a good thing.

what would everyone think about a weekly tourney?

how about a tourney every two weeks?

another question. how many pikas in this community use the ff fair and land behind the oponent?

 

[KayLo!]

Needing more pluses?! Four is just fine imo, lol. It took me long enough to get those -- granted, I didn't try extra hard to track people down, but it's not easy making time to play four separate people, some of whom are rarely in the chat or on the boards or just plain available to play at "normal" hours.

A tourney every two weeks sounds good to me, but I don't how many participants you'd get that frequently.

I answered this in the chat, but just in case.... I try to use crossover FF fairs to land behind my opponents as much as I can, because smart players will shieldgrab your regular fairs nearly every time if you don't space them perfectly.

Landing behind them limits your options a little (you can't grab or dtilt out of it), especially at higher percentages when utilt combos aren't effective anymore; however, if you have fun annoying your opponent and tech chasing (two things I'm enjoying more and more), fair > dsmash is hella great. Fair > utilt > thunder harassment/kills is another good option. I've caught someone with fair > shield > nair OOS from behind before, but it was unplanned, and I doubt it would work consistently.

I probably wrote more than you wanted, but oh wellz, hehe. The key word is that I try, though.... I tend to mess up my spacing a lot when I attempt to land behind people..... i.e., landing in front of them by mistake or going too far behind them so I can't follow up with anything....

 

[Stealth Raptor]

the problem with tourneys, is that other then our first tourney which was pwntastic, all the others have failed MISERABLY! people enter then forget. if you want ill start another one up next week. i will probably need to make a social group for it as i am sure a tourney thread will not be allowed.

 

[Ussi]

I always try to land behind with a FF fair. I then utilt afterwards. Other times I RAR fair that way I can grab.

 

[iRjOn]

FF fair behind is good for utilt strings i do it to a reverse grab sometimes. Even do it to dsmash.

 

[Zylar]

You can't to throw the item a little after you begin the roll. If you are dash tossing the item, then you can using c-stick too early. If you are rolling without throwing the item, you are using c-stick too late.

Thanks K 2.
This wasn't very hard to understand. (Except "You can't to throw" XD)
I've been rolling around like a maniac n00b when I play Diddys lately, trying to do this. Also, I was trying to throw using Z. Imma gonna try the C-stick now. Most likely that will kill two birds with one stone.
^^'

Although, I can't blame the mod for doing his job, nor complain about it being closed, I do agree with E. (I mean, all the spam in one place seems "efficient?" lol)

On topic? :

@Kaylo: More mods doesn't necessarily mean more +'s reqruied. (>.> <.< *crosses fingers*)

@Gallax: I think it will get low turnout. (And the date is crucial, not all ppl can attend in the same day.)

Also, I "forget" to FFF behind them, so I get grabbed often. Which causes me to rely on RARs. But yeah, I do remember to FFF behind them after I realized I got grabbed from a fair 5 times. >.<

 

[KayLo!]

@Kaylo: More mods doesn't necessarily mean more +'s reqruied. (>.> <.< *crosses fingers*)

Well, I responding to what Gallax said about needing more +'s, that's all. I don't really care how many mods there are, lol.

 

[Zylar]

Ah, well, still. I think one more mod but the same amount of +'s needed is good. If there are two more mods, then up the amount of +'s up one. I dunno, but I have a specific time frame of when I can get tested and play at all so it's very hard for me. >.>

 

[stormwarning]

..........

 

[K 2]

Stick with C-stick. Pikachu doesn't have too much application with wavebouncing, other than wavebounce thunder edgeguard, which can easily be accomplished with C-stick.

If you read the FAQ section in the OP, I answered your tap jump question. Its totally a matter of personal preference.

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

I use A-stick (tilts) because i never used it in melee, and i like not fast-falling my dairs. Also, it makes the pika-slide easier.

 

[Ussi]

c-stick gives SDI. I don't ever want to give that up.

 

[~Kyte]

so i just picked up pikachu, and admittedly this happened to me on all of my other characters... (diddy, bowser, sonic, toon link, falco), but i cannot for the life of me approach a pit.. and i cant camp him either... its frustrating to say the least.

/rant on

Essentially what happens to me is this, i use jolts to try to distract him/bait a reflector and wait for a punish, this sometimes works but usually i dont have time for all that jazz simply because im working hard to avoid the arrows, to avoid these i try to get mid-distance and attack with QAC but alas his tilts come out too fast and i get punished, whether i approach with QAC, mind games, fast fall aerials, everything, and i mix them up, same story, i get blasted.

I just feel like the character is a fortress... i cant keep range because of the arrows, i can camp because of reflectors, and i cant approach because... i dont know! >.< maybe im just to predictable, but gah, just gah

/rant off

 

[RjPunch]

Hello I just picked up pikachu as my secondary wondered if their are any tips for an up and coming pikachu player?

 

[Stealth Raptor]

read the stickies, watch vids, if you play online come to our chatroom and play us, http://xat.com/chat/room/37180170/ , and your avi is win.

 

[RjPunch]

Thanks i'll play online when i get a better wifi connection.Sweet Avi by the way.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

if i could get a riochu or picario drawn like your avi i would die of excitment.

 

[RjPunch]

Who wouldn't?

 

[KayLo!]

so i just picked up pikachu, and admittedly this happened to me on all of my other characters... (diddy, bowser, sonic, toon link, falco), but i cannot for the life of me approach a pit.. and i cant camp him either... its frustrating to say the least.

/rant on

Essentially what happens to me is this, i use jolts to try to distract him/bait a reflector and wait for a punish, this sometimes works but usually i dont have time for all that jazz simply because im working hard to avoid the arrows, to avoid these i try to get mid-distance and attack with QAC but alas his tilts come out too fast and i get punished, whether i approach with QAC, mind games, fast fall aerials, everything, and i mix them up, same story, i get blasted.

I just feel like the character is a fortress... i cant keep range because of the arrows, i can camp because of reflectors, and i cant approach because... i dont know! >.< maybe im just to predictable, but gah, just gah

/rant off

Pit is annoying, but the one piece of advice I can give you is this: learn to powershield. Approaching him will be a LOT easier when you can run/walk, powershield, run, powershield, then start comboing when you're up close.

Pit has slightly better range than Pikachu, and it can be a pain to fight him up close, but if you get better at predicting his moves and baiting/punishing, you'll come out on top. I don't know much about this matchup in particular, but from my limited experience, it seems to be 50/50ish. You just have to learn his moveset and patterns and work around them.

Sorry I can't be more helpful. Maybe someone else will have a better answer for you.

Good luck!

 

[Ussi]

Pit's not that hard once you play him a bit. His bair will have a hard time hitting you while you're grounded but its still possible if they can aim that low. But you can easily avoid it since its a strict timing so you can always block since Pit has to use it at the last moment he can use it making it obvious to see. I'm not sure if Pika's fair will eat Pit's Glide attack like MK's but give it a shot for now lol.

mirror shield and angel ring shouldn't bother you unless you're using skull bash lol. Just be smart with your projectile. Make it that if he reflects it he's wide open to you now. If he does choose to reflect it, jump over him and fair his behind (literally) that way you hit through the shield/ring.

learn to DI his dthrow otherwise he'll always follow up with uair. Pit's not really a pain up close since you can out range his fsmash. His ftilt, slow, but has quite some good range to watch for, but easy to react to but don't let yourself get spaced into it.

Try not to stay under you're own thunder. Bait his reflector too to punish with uair depending on where he is.

Oh, make sure you read his arrow patterns. If you dash you got a 50% chance of avoiding it if he shoots straight. Otherwise it depends if he aims at you or not. Just PS the arrows, its not hard.

When Pit uses his Up B, chase him and try to hit him with either jolt, uair, or QA. Just don't get yourself killed without taking him with you at least. (not worth it if you are losing by a stock)

Thats basics of Pit vs Pikachu.

 

[kend0g1]

i kno this sounds nooby..but how do you shff (short hop fast fall)

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Well you short hop (press the jump button and release it quickly) then after the apex (height) of your jump, press down on your analog stick to fastfall.

 

[Veng]

i kno this sounds nooby..but how do you shff (short hop fast fall)

Do you know how to Short Hop? Basically just press the x or y button real quick and let go, it becomes a second nature after a while, just practice. Then at the top of your jump press down on the joy stick and you will fall fast.

So if you short hop, then forward air, then tap down you can set yourself up for a grab out of the short hop fast falled fair.

 

[Vanst]

How often should I Qac? I have been using it frequently, but should I use it more in my game or less?

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Depends. If you are getting punished for it, use it less. If you are ****** them with it, do it more.

 

[Vanst]

Depends. If you are getting punished for it, use it less. If you are ****** them with it, do it more.

I will keep that in mind thanks

 

[M15t3R E]

Depends. If you are getting punished for it, use it less. If you are ****** them with it, do it more.

Good point. I always spam QAC at my opponent to see if they know how to react to it. If they can't punish me easily for it (which is usually the case) it tends to greatly improve my odds for winning any match.

 

[stealth3654]

On the topic of QAC, any advice on how to use it effectively during a match? Whenever I try to do QAC into an arial, I seem to get hit out of it most of the time even though I don't use it a lot.

 

[Ussi]

I used skull bash today in a match purposely and it worked LOL. I think I'm starting to like it.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Greetings, fellow pokemanz! Nice to meet you all. I thought I'd try out Pikachu because he counters some characters my current mains/secondaries do not, QAC and Pikachu in general look like they have a lot of potential, and because of his general happy yellowness/yellow happiness. What are the important things I should keep in mind while trying to learn pika?

 

[Veng]

learn to QAC in training mode ( offline ), Aerials out of QAC, thunderguard, thunair.

Tjolts are your friend watch anther and read the guide/watch 5ives video.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

such a broad question. you should keep in mind pikas combo ability, learn how to space and kill efectively, and be prepared to study matchups. i also recomend coming to our chatroom http://xat.com/chat/room/37180170/ and playing us. you can get a feel for the many varied styles pika offers.

 

[gallax]

i laugh everytime i see vengs sig. lol.

pika has such a broad range of playstyles though. personally, i am tuning my pika to use the fair and bair the most. the uair is freaking good but to me i like the bair a tad better. plus i LOVE to qac. im a maniac at it.

 

[LordoftheMorning]

Wow, this sounds better than I thought...

I'll be around guys. Mostly lurking, prolly. Thanks!

What's a thunair? Sounds like thunder + nair...

 

[Stealth Raptor]

you are indeed right. my favorite combo and one i found. search it on youtube to get a sneak peak. its VERY situational though.

 

[Veng]

Basically you thunder guard then nair right afterwards, if you land it = epic.

And pikas uair is my favorite attack, I actually never used it till stealth told me ;o

 

[KayLo!]

And pikas uair is my favorite attack, I actually never used it till stealth told me ;o

I remember when I first started using uair more..... it's pretty f'in great. My Pika's combo skills went up +10.