Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[LivewiresXe]

I dunno, I just mainly play her because she's like, the closest to what I'm comfortable with or used to. Even if I have been considering a pocket Akihiko. But either way, I think from how she plays, I'd probably play her if she was just B+ anyway since I normally pick characters and check tiers later.

 

[Teczer0]

What I have learned reading the last few pages.

Shabrys is about as good as I thought she was and Chie robs you.

Really actually I just confirmed that Chie robs you.

 

[Minato]

I always thought it was Koizumi that robs people.

 

[Sion]

so i've been playing a mid-lower mid character

aight

 

[Crusayer]

And I somehow pick all the top tiers. All I wanted was a char with strong pressure lol

 

[Rutger]

All I want is Yosuke with Chipp's teleports. That would be so fun.

And wait, you play Makoto and Johnny? Clearly Chie will also be nerfed heavily if we ever get a new P4U, so don't worry too much.
Though we may be stuck with this P4U, even if an update would be kind of nice.

 

[Minato]

I don't think their pressure would really be all that strong if they weren't top tier though

@Sion Screw your mid-lower mid character. He's A+ tier to me.

It'd be impossible to catch Yosuke if he had teleports.

 

[Rutger]

Chipp with Sukukaja super would be the best thing in fighting games ever. :3


Nerf Yosuke's health down to Liz's and give him teleports. I'm okay playing "don't get hit", because clearly I don't know what to do whenever Narukami knocks me down anyways.

 

[Crusayer]

P4A 2! Chie's 5a is now -5! God hand has no invinc! Only one meteor comes out from meteors~

 

[Minato]

P4A 2! Chie's 5a is now -5! God hand has no invinc! Only one meteor comes out from meteors~

Aigis's 5A is already -6. Besides the no invul, you make her sound like a normal character.

Chipp with Sukukaja super would be the best thing in fighting games ever. :3

I don't think I'd play GG if that was the case lol. That sounds so scary.

 

[Sion]

I always thought it was Koizumi that robs people.

no one is gonna get this minato

i also don't think akihiko is that bad, but it seems that most characters can do well anyways

bout to give shabrys players the beef though

 

[LivewiresXe]

P4A 2! Chie's 5a is now -5! God hand has no invinc! Only one meteor comes out from meteors~

Lol, now you're sounding like those weird whiny people who complained about Tron Bonne in MvC3 vanilla then complained more when she was useless in UMvC3, which I hope is the intention. The thing developers have to realize is that some characters (or weapons in other games, for instance) or whatever will always be ones that people are clamoring for nerfs for. They could nerf them in every iteration of the game, at every update, and people would still complain regardless. I'm not saying some things in this game could use a bit of balancing, but I think people will ALWAYS complain about Chie regardless of what they do.

 

[Zankoku]

Chipp with Sukukaja super would be the best thing in fighting games ever. :3


Nerf Yosuke's health down to Liz's and give him teleports. I'm okay playing "don't get hit", because clearly I don't know what to do whenever Narukami knocks me down anyways.

Yes, in exchange for turning Yosuke's already ridiculous runaway game into Marvel quality, he should lose roughly 2/3 of a Yukiko bnb in life.

Wait.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

teehee~

 

[Jam Stunna]

Just start Labrys at red axe at the beginning of the round, like how they made Hakan oiled up at the beginning of a round in AE 2012, and I'll be all set.

I'm just kidding, of course.
















No I'm not

 

[Crusayer]

Just give labby hazama's chains~

 

[Minato]

no one is gonna get this minato

At least you got it though.

bout to give shabrys players the beef though

Like yourself for switching? I don't blame you though, that damage.

Just give labby hazama's chains~

I'm trying to find uses for that move outside of combos. Unfortunately it kind of sucks lol.
Also trying to find uses for j.D period. 5D has good uses, j.D I have no idea besides hoping they jump into it.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Yeah, if it was able to be angled, it'd be super good to have.

 

[Lythium]

I'm trying to find uses for that move outside of combos. Unfortunately it kind of sucks lol.
Also trying to find uses for j.D period. 5D has good uses, j.D I have no idea besides hoping they jump into it.

SB chain goes through every projectile (that I've found anyway), so that's useful at least. And the A follow-up is plus on block. I still think it sucks though, yay!

Sometimes I use j.D midscreen against jerks like Yosuke or in the corner after a knockdown against people who like to jump out. Unfortunately, it is still not as good as using 5D or oki, so...

 

[Rutger]

Yes, in exchange for turning Yosuke's already ridiculous runaway game into Marvel quality, he should lose roughly 2/3 of a Yukiko bnb in life.

Wait.

Yep, sounds perfectly reasonable to me. :3


Honestly though, I'd just like to see Arcsys buff Yosuke's SB j.2CD to have no landing recovery. That has always bugged me.

 

[Minato]

SB chain goes through every projectile (that I've found anyway), so that's useful at least. And the A follow-up is plus on block. I still think it sucks though, yay!

Sometimes I use j.D midscreen against jerks like Yosuke or in the corner after a knockdown against people who like to jump out. Unfortunately, it is still not as good as using 5D or oki, so...

Yeah . I think 236A/B would be more practical if it had faster startup. IIRC, none of her moves can special cancel safely into it on block besides 5C which unfortunately can't be used during Tsurugi oki.

I might try to use that SB version more to try to beat projectiles likd you said, and see how useful that can be. I swear her tools are just a tad short of being really useful.

 

[Lythium]

It's true.

The problem even with doing the follow-ups is that people can DP them on reaction, so then you have to try to start adding brake baits in there as well. I think the SB version is legit good, but Labrys really starts to need a lot of meter, and then you kind of have to be choosier about what you want with her. Damage, axe meter, or just getting an approach, it is a sucky trade-off.

 

[Minato]

If P4U ever gets an update, I'd like faster 236A startup, SB version be changed to A's old startup, no increased hit stop on DP super armor, ability to charge Tsurugi longer, j.D being able to OMC and suck people in on block for corner shenanigans, and ability to feint cancel charged B normals at a certain point in the charge.

I think I'd completely switch over to Labrys if she even had some of that. Her DP and maintaining advantage after knockdown without risks/meter are her only problems for me, but buffing up Tsurugi or 5D would be too good for her. The rest are things to make her more interesting, haha.

 

[Zankoku]

If P4U gets updated I want Score Attack characters to be playable so during off time we can do hilarious stupidity like canceling DP into sword dive/ziocar mixup, or leaping across the entire screen with Kanji sweep, or never dying with Elizabeth. Or dealing lethal damage with Labrys/Shadow Labrys AoA.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'd want an actual beatable Score Attack.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'd want an actual beatable Score Attack.

Blasphemy! Who would go for such a thing?

 

[Lythium]

If P4U ever gets an update, I'd like faster 236A startup, SB version be changed to A's old startup, no increased hit stop on DP super armor, ability to charge Tsurugi longer, j.D being able to OMC and suck people in on block for corner shenanigans, and ability to feint cancel charged B normals at a certain point in the charge.

I think I'd completely switch over to Labrys if she even had some of that. Her DP and maintaining advantage after knockdown without risks/meter are her only problems for me, but buffing up Tsurugi or 5D would be too good for her. The rest are things to make her more interesting, haha.

All of that stuff would be great. I think I'd like to have better defensive options (her DP and CA are both terrible), or something to mash out with, haha. Having a 7 frame 5A, 2A, and throw makes me sad.

I also kind of wish her axe meter wouldn't deplete so fast when she's getting hit, but that's another story~

 

[Rutger]

Give Labrys Baiken's guard cancels!


Would be interesting really scary.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'm up for P4A tomorrow.

Maybe tonight, but I'm tired.

 

[blindhobo]

hey livewire (do i call you this or storm?) i'm here to show you that i do indeed have a smashboards account lol.

also i never knew this thread existed.

 

[LivewiresXe]

hey livewire (do i call you this or storm?) i'm here to show you that i do indeed have a smashboards account lol.

also i never knew this thread existed.

You can call me whichever you want (or base it off of what board we're at?), it's cool either way. Nice to know you have a Smashboards account since I don't go to the P4A section of the boards over on GFAQs as much as I should.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I haven't been on GameFAQs forums actively since I was 13, lol.

Anyway, I'm going to try this again. Around 5-7PM PDT I'll make a room.

 

[Zankoku]

I guess I'll bring my PS3 and gear with me to KoC in case the hotel has usable Internet. If it does, I'll be up for some late night games over the weekend.

 

[Teczer0]

Im going to a p4 tourney to get bodied so I won't make it :<

 

[LivewiresXe]

I haven't been on GameFAQs forums actively since I was 13, lol.

Anyway, I'm going to try this again. Around 5-7PM PDT I'll make a room.

Cool, I might be on if the freezing rain stops. If I'm on earlier, I'll have a room made and just invite whoever's on. And I actually go there since well, it's actually got an active Survivor/TAR/BB discussion, that ISN'T flooded with trolls and spoilers, lol.

Also, good luck Teczero!

 

[Minato]

I'm on now.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Alright will join. Gonna eat dinner first.

EDIT: I'm in, lets go guys.

 

[Rutger]

I've been having such a hard time with P4U for quite a while, but I think I may finally understand this game a little better.

These matches ended up being more fun than I have had with this game lately, even if I felt I should have blocked more things than I did.

GGs. I think it may be time for me to actually go learn some new things.

 

[Minato]

GGs, Sakurazaki and Rutger.

If anyone has any specific questions on neutral game and fundamentals, just ask. I do these lobbies for anyone who wants to put in the effort to get better at the game. I'd help people in BB, but I don't know if CP will have better netcode, and Extend makes me lose to wakeup mashers all day.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Sorry I was busy and missed the room, and all that. If anybody's up for one tomorrow, I can probably make one.