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Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

LivewiresXe

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You know, this is going to sound odd coming from me Minato, but...if you know Liz you should bring her out a couple of times when we play. I know I HATE the matchup and it'll likely at least initially infuriate me like the vs Yosuke matches did but....I NEED to learn that matchup at some point if I ever expect to improve as a player, so it may as well be sooner rather than later.
 

Minato

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I feel pretty confident about maintaining lead with Kanji. :V
The only grapplers I could ever use were Zangief and King. So yeah, not sure if I can do well with Kanji.
My luck is pretty bad too which is why I don't use grapplers often lol.
You know, this is going to sound odd coming from me Minato, but...if you know Liz you should bring her out a couple of times when we play. I know I HATE the matchup and it'll likely at least initially infuriate me like the vs Yosuke matches did but....I NEED to learn that matchup at some point if I ever expect to improve as a player, so it may as well be sooner rather than later.
Yu (and basically anyone) can easily disrespect Liz. When she's fighting characters like Yu or even Labrys, stuff like Ziodyne or Maragidyne are near useless if they have meter. Next time we play, I'll use her. Then I'll post what to do unless you want me to post tips right now.
 

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You could always post a couple of tips before the next lobby I can hop in or whatever, and then maybe comment on some stuff after? I've been trying to work on properly blocking and what I can get a counter-hit off of more than actual combos when it comes to Narukami (since I figure once you have down what you can punish off of, then you can focus on better punishing) so it might be useful.

Edit: And you tried King, huh? If you mean Tekken King, then yeah he's fun to use in TTT2, but...I can see why Armor King is more functional.
 

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GGs Minato and Teczero.

It was a good night, I think I learned a little.

I needed the Shabrys exp, I still need more but she's getting less confusing to fight.

The command grab still gets me every time though. :urg:
 

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GGs, guys. It's really weird learning Shabrys. I'll put more time next weekend and hopefully it sees some improvements.

@Rutger If the Shabrys does the command grab and j.A, you can backdash and escape. If she does run up 5A instead, that basically beats all reversal options so you'll have to late tech to screw up her timing (until the player catches on).
 

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wakeup DP if Shabrys is being silly and just auto-selecting 50/50's on you, but don't become reliant on it because otherwise she'll just sit there and Fatal Counter you.
 

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@Rutger If the Shabrys does the command grab and j.A, you can backdash and escape. If she does run up 5A instead, that basically beats all reversal options so you'll have to late tech to screw up her timing (until the player catches on).
You know, I had always just assumed I needed to jump out of it, now I realize Shabrys should be able to just hit me out of the jump start up. :/

A big issue is that I never see it coming, I'll have to save some replays next time and see if I can learn anything from them.

Thanks for the advice, I'll start using it.
 

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Well folks, just thought I'd put it here since it partly has to do with P4A at times, but as part of our efforts to try and improve the Ottawa FGC (or at least the not-Capcom side of it), we now officially have an Ottawa FGC stream! :bee:

I'm legitimately excited for this and I hope that it's the start of things looking up over here. I know some of you guys might now care, but hey, I'm hyped over the concept and looking forward to the future. If anybody wants to check it out, the channel is:

http://www.twitch.tv/krackatoa
 

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I thought you played labby

Why don't you guys just put all the characters next to your names :awesome:
 

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I thought you played labby

Why don't you guys just put all the characters next to your names :awesome:
I usually only play one or two characters per game. Labby will still be around for casuals, but Aigis is going to be my main (waifu) from now on.

Gotta get dat fight money.

Haha, I've been playing Aigis lately too, not sure if I'm switching mains yet though.

Okay, done.
Thanks! She's pretty cool~ :3

Oh shiza. Well, I wanted dat Aigis practice.
Aigis army comin' for you.
 

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I'll probably prefer Yukiko for vs Yosuke and very likely vs Elizabeth.
 

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So going through on a couple of Narukami combos, and checking of combo videos and stuff and all that, and it leaves me kinda wondering. Is it just me or....does just about every combo he does that gets over 2.3k seem to need 50SP or more?
 

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Well, if it uses 50SP, then it uses 50SP, lmao.

It goes either way. A lot of combos are like that. One of the exceptions of 2.5k+ for Yu without meter are CH/FCs. I also think there are some 214D enders where meter isn't needed and also the 5D oki stuff. Where are you looking for combos? DL?

Then you have Yosuke.
 

Minato

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So going through on a couple of Narukami combos, and checking of combo videos and stuff and all that, and it leaves me kinda wondering. Is it just me or....does just about every combo he does that gets over 2.3k seem to need 50SP or more?
His damage is on the low side if it's meterless. That's why it's important to get that knockdown into 5D.
His combos involving burst or meter deal quite a lot though.

Also, lobby tonight. Maybe.

Edit: Yosuke does more damage than Narukami meterless on average, imo.
 
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