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Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

Teczer0

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Like I said, just don't do it for a while and you won't have the problem.

You're far too fixated on using those 2 options.

I honestly, don't really care about your reasoning as to why you did or didn't do things. Just accept that's what you did. I really have no interest in reading your paragraph about it.
 

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Like I said, just don't do it for a while and you won't have the problem.

You're far too fixated on using those 2 options.

I honestly, don't really care about your reasoning as to why you did or didn't do things. Just accept that's what you did. I really have no interest in reading your paragraph about it.

Hm. Well that was a wee bit uh...'blunt' if I do say so. Partly since I thought we had already come to a conclusion and worked stuff out on it, at least somewhat. Oh well, I know what you mean either way. :urg:
 

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I don't really like being like that honestly. But you create too many reasons/excuses for your failures.

Its much better if you just say well, can't keep doing that or need to start keeping that in mind.
 

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Keep telling yourself that it's your luck, Livewire. Luck is something outside of your control. Starting each offense with AoA, wake up AoA, or DP, or all of the above on my oki is a terrible idea. I'm sad that the only thing you got out of watching me play was 2C at the start of the round, which is a ******** gimmick. Never saw one Sweep into 5D as Narukami. Just raw sweep.
Did you block today Livewire

Gonna keep reminding you every time you play :D
No. He lost to dash up DP as oki for like 2k health.
 

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Look, I know it's not luck, so you don't really have to be like that, Minato, and I know you weren't offensive or bad in your intentions, Teczero. What happened tonight was my fault, and whether it was me trying to many things at once, or whatever the hell it wound up being isn't important because those are still things that are under my control. It's up to me to figure out why times like this when I felt that I had been learning and taking things away from the matches that turns out not to be the case (such as tonight), and why the times I feel I'm not taking things from it and that I'm doing awfully are the times that I wind up learning things.

Something out of my control would be somebody else shutting off the PS3, disconnecting my stick, or the power going out mid match. That would be luck, because that would be something I didn't control. What direction I make my stick move and which buttons I press, those are in my control. That stick doesn't move and those buttons don't get pressed until somebody tells them to, and since I was the only one moving and pressing them, that means I was the one responsible and that I have to not do what I was doing.
 

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LWX, remember my random quote about how you'd communicate better by not trying to do so? Here's another example of it - you keep talking paragraphs without really saying much, though managing to dig yourself into a deeper hole most of the time.

Based on my playing with you that one night and what I'm hearing tonight, I really believe you're best off watching some vids, grinding some training mode, and actually getting your INTENTIONS in order before you hit that netplay and start flailing again.

As a player with relatively poor execution I've always stressed the fundamentals. Just because you can air-dash doesn't mean you have to overcomplicate the game with a billion "I thought this" and "I keep telling myself that." Just play it. Less johns, less option selects, more practice.
 

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Sion/Jam/Livewire - GGs it was a lot of fun as always.

Minato - Thanks for playing me as always. I was glad you picked Narukami actually since I wanted to practice against him haha.

I am so free to raging lion omg. I coulda sworn sometimes I blocked it and just nope xD.

Still definitely need to work on a few things though

I also really wanted to play p3 so I sorta left haha.

Need to get those Yukari flags I mean.
 

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ggs guys

just wanted to try a bit of mitsuru today

sorry about some of the lag issues idk what was goin down
 

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GGs, everyone. This was my last day of practice before SCR so I really wanted to get my Narukami back.

And Sion, thanks for the laggy matches you ****ing troll.
Gonna have some bad habits against Mitsuru now. A matchup I actually didn't mind.
 

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If Smash makes it into Evo, I'd be hella tempted to attend. \o/.

Play like all the anime games AND smash. Sign me up!
 

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LWX, remember my random quote about how you'd communicate better by not trying to do so? Here's another example of it - you keep talking paragraphs without really saying much, though managing to dig yourself into a deeper hole most of the time.

Based on my playing with you that one night and what I'm hearing tonight, I really believe you're best off watching some vids, grinding some training mode, and actually getting your INTENTIONS in order before you hit that netplay and start flailing again.

As a player with relatively poor execution I've always stressed the fundamentals. Just because you can air-dash doesn't mean you have to overcomplicate the game with a billion "I thought this" and "I keep telling myself that." Just play it. Less johns, less option selects, more practice.


Aisight, after our talk, I feel we sorted things out, so I won't go into a long bit on it and will just say thanks and that I understand where you're coming from. Oh, and also, just call me Livewire. I only used L-W-X as my PSN since "Livewire" was already taken.

Also, GGs to everyone else. Even though I still have a long ways to go, netplay matches are always fun with you guys and I'll pretty much usually be down for them. This EVO talk makes me think odd things because I almost feel like saying "I'd work at an A&W if it'd get me down for EVO", lol.
 

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All of what Aisight said was relevant, but I'm mostly gonna squish it down to this:

Based on my playing with you that one night and what I'm hearing tonight, I really believe you're best off watching some vids, grinding some training mode, and actually getting your INTENTIONS in order before you hit that netplay and start flailing again.
Go to training mode. Take a week off from netplay.
 

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I had no money when P4A came out, and I had to trade in tons of games to get it. I couldn't pay for my internet, so it got cut off. I spent about a month offline in training mode, and there's no doubt in my mind that it was the best thing that happened to help me understand and improve in this game.
 

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Greetings! I am a Smash player but I didn’t know there was an animu thread here. I play Persona too! I main MetaKnight and sub Yukiko. I also play Good Game XX Amazing Combos Plus. I wanted to play Narukami, but everyone and their mothers play him and if I want to play boring, I could just simply go back to Ky.
 

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I know I should take a break from netplay and hibernate to the lab for a bit, but it's, I dunno...like if you guys get a lobby going and I get all "oh sorry, in training mode, can't play", that's kind of a rude thing of me to say and do, y'know?
 

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i've also been instant killed by 2 people in this thread

stop iking me =(
Now I know what to do when we play.

And we're not that concerned, Livewire. As long as you seek to improve yourself, a simple "I'll be in the lab today" in this thread would suffice if you're THAT concerned. We'll know what you're up to.
 

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I almost never log in unless I want to play online since I switched to a wired connection, because I don't want to just leave the cable laying on the floor in the hallway.

So of course I miss out whenever a room just starts up. I want to try and play some more games with everyone this month, because with Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, and maybe Metal Gear, I will probably not be playing fighting games often in February/early March.

I need to go into training mode though because I can't play this game anymore. :/


Oh yeah, I think I missed some PSN/XBL names in the past month or so. I kind of don't feel like looking for those so if you want your info added or updated on the first post just tell me now, and I will get it when I can.
 

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I know I should take a break from netplay and hibernate to the lab for a bit, but it's, I dunno...like if you guys get a lobby going and I get all "oh sorry, in training mode, can't play", that's kind of a rude thing of me to say and do, y'know?
Uh, I do it? A lot?

Sometimes, I just want to practice. As far as I know, no one here has been offended that I was like, "No sorry, training. Maybe next time?" I'm pretty sure no one here will mind that you want to spend your time trying to improve.
 

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I got offended that one time I was never on PSN.

Lythi, you bish. :troll:



Thanks to my roommate, I have access to a PS3 again! I may pick up Persona whenever I have free monies.

Smooth Criminal
 

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Haha, well, you guys made your point. You smart-alecks you. In that case then, I'll probably take the next 2-3 days that I'm playing Persona doing that. And uh, my PS3 will auto-sign in when I turn it on and usually stay signed in unless I force it to sign me out.
 

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Wait....Gizoo-what now?

Edit: Oh, and also I've been thinking about re-watching the Atlus Fighting Championships P4A tourney stuff. Though...from the footage I've found of it on Youtube, I haven't really seen much/any Narukami play (in fact, I think there was only 1 Narukami and he went 0-2). As opposed to say, characters like Aigis, Kanji, Chie, and Teddie of which there seemed to be plenty of footage of there. Of course...I could probably just Youtube stuff by SKD.
 

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Gamechariot and a-cho usually have really good vids up.

Ugh, practicing green-to-red axe combos is a pain in the butt. Why can't you reset the axe level?

/grumble grumble
 

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Edit: Oh, and also I've been thinking about re-watching the Atlus Fighting Championships P4A tourney stuff. Though...from the footage I've found of it on Youtube, I haven't really seen much/any Narukami play (in fact, I think there was only 1 Narukami and he went 0-2). As opposed to say, characters like Aigis, Kanji, Chie, and Teddie of which there seemed to be plenty of footage of there. Of course...I could probably just Youtube stuff by SKD.
I was the highest ranked Narukami at that tourney which is pretty sad lol.
Just watch videos of SKD for Narukami, but his style is rather aggressive. If you want good matches of anything, go watch the Japanese NEC Quals. Yuu-sama's Yu is even in there. Other than that, there isn't much footage on Yu gameplay.
Ugh, practicing green-to-red axe combos is a pain in the butt. Why can't you reset the axe level?

/grumble grumble
It's annoying. Luckily her combos are easy so I rarely practice them in training mode.
I mostly spend time on 22x oki, mixups, and blockstrings.
 

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Hey Minato, do you play at all with UBW? I was wondering how you compare to Arthur/Nerdchill, since he's the only other tournament Narukami I see over in SoCal these days.
 

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It's annoying. Luckily her combos are easy so I rarely practice them in training mode.
I mostly spend time on 22x oki, mixups, and blockstrings.
Yeah, I already had one, but it didn't really set up good oki opportunities, so I was trying to figure out one that would let me do that.
 

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I was the highest ranked Narukami at that tourney which is pretty sad lol.
Just watch videos of SKD for Narukami, but his style is rather aggressive. If you want good matches of anything, go watch the Japanese NEC Quals. Yuu-sama's Yu is even in there. Other than that, there isn't much footage on Yu gameplay.
All right, that's fair enough, though don't sell yourself short. Luckily, for SKD gameplay I can just re-watch some stuff from Apex...well, the Top 8 at least. And Lythi, if you're still thinking of getting a pocket Chie, I think DSMoove's might be an alright one to watch some stuff of for a bit.


I was looking around on Youtube Minato, and I found that Narukami Oki video I think you linked me to a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIwQPRTzY3c

On top of that, I found a "Basic BnB" video for Narukami too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7-y4Bw_4X0&list=LLrtSuS0UnyhR-7X7djwl_xQ

And, one for Chie that people using her/trying to use her might appreciate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41IGwXRmwf8&list=LLrtSuS0UnyhR-7X7djwl_xQ


There's also a OMC and OMB application video that SKD put out, but I feel that right now, the important thing is to focus on Narukami's oki before I get way ahead of myself and think on trying to find 4 different combos for each different situation (such as normal, counter, anti-air, fatal counter, corner, throw, OMC, etc) because I think that would just show regression and would result in me expecting far too much too fast. Also, Aisight linked me to some frame data, so I've been looking over that a bit to see a bit on how slow some things actually start up.
 

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Thanks Livewire, although I was disappointed with how I played in that tourney (but not how I placed). I got knocked into losers so early that I basically 2-0'ed everyone to make up for it except for my last two opponents. I'm hoping to do better at SCR, but we'll see. The idea of pools scare me though. I haven't used Narukami seriously since then, even in lobbies. So I hope it goes well.
Hey Minato, do you play at all with UBW? I was wondering how you compare to Arthur/Nerdchill, since he's the only other tournament Narukami I see over in SoCal these days.
I actually don't. I could be wrong, but I think Arthur was the Narukami player I talked to at the Atlus tourney. He told me that my Narukami was way better after seeing me play casuals.

As for SoCal footage, it doesn't really help that Xie stopped streaming because of the 4G cost or whatever.
TRB's current season just ended, but I'm not sure if P4U will be back (it might be back because of Evo).
 

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So, it seems like my bf may have ragequit this game, haha.

Looks like I'll be playing with you guys more often, if the timezones don't screw me over. :3c
 
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