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Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread
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Minato
穏やかじゃない
It actually makes sense if you think it through. FIrst thing to consider, what can you get off of sweep into 5DD? Nothing much and it's going to going to be difficult to end it into a sweep into 5D again. Second, assume the speed of the attack. Empty jump into sweep is way more telling than empty jump 2A. Third, rule of thumb in fighters is block low, react to highs. No reason they should be losing to a sweep unless it's online. Raging Lion is easily reactable too. 4th, you're limiting your mixups to only one. If you do a j.B, you can jump over them for a left/right mixup with your 5DD. Empty jump 2A gives you a chance to roll if they blocked it to do another mixup. If they're in the corner, you can do raging lion after you 2As and combo off of it. The point is threatening them into blocking for a long period of time. This'll make them scared or reckless. If they turtle too much, you have the option to throw as well.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Thanks. That...actually helped a lot. Though I admit I (mistakenly, it seems) thought 5DD was mostly used in corners, while 5D was used for midscreen. It was kind of confusing to me at first in a sense since I initially thought that due to the animation of 5D (the blade sliding along the ground) that it must hit low instead of middle.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
You should really save my matches, Livewire.
As for what looks low or high, record and play them in training mode. You've played BB and SF4, you should have a grasp that not all moves that look like they hit low do. Not even 2A in BB hits low.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Don't worry, I saved almost all of our matches the last time we played. I don't think you can save replays of other people in a room after they fight, otherwise I would've say...saved a few of you playing Aisight to get some ideas. It's funny you say that about training mode and record, as it's actually how I found out 5D didn't hit low.
Aright guys, I'm gonna setup a lobby in about 5 mins or so.
If anyone else wants in lemme know here/AIM/Skype/MSN w/e
If anyone else wants in lemme know here/AIM/Skype/MSN w/e
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Although honestly, it's better off watching better Narukamis on YT and streams if Narukami's all you're looking for. Watching me play online isn't great since people sometimes mash and break a Persona card off of my 5D which shouldn't happen.
And don't forget to look at the dustloop wiki. Frame data, hitboxes, and how to block it is all there.
And don't forget to look at the dustloop wiki. Frame data, hitboxes, and how to block it is all there.
..... does anyone else get a message that sony is doing maintenance?
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
I know I can watch plenty of videos and matches from SKD and others, for sure. I suppose I just figured that what you were getting at was that watching our matches helps show the benefits of your mixups and oki over the flaws and mistakes I was doing in them so that I could potentially accomplish 2 things at once at a semi-decent rate instead of 1 thing at a good rate.
Can someone confirm with me that Sony is trolling me?
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
I'll go and check on my PS3, give me a couple mins, Tec.
Edit: My PS3 won't log me in and says PSN's performing maintenance too, so it's not just you.
Well... I guess... no lobby then :<
Sion
Island of Horizon
that sucks dude
i was able to sign in and i see lythium on too
i was able to sign in and i see lythium on too
Ah well, couldn't've joined in anyways, since I'll be heading to SoCal tonight.
My defensive game is hilarious and not recommended to follow - when I'm confident and my reads work I get massive rewards, but I also tend to freeze up and just block forever when I'm uncertain which lets people pressure me for free in the corner for like 30 seconds at a time. If you want a player good at blocking watch Japan vids.
My defensive game is hilarious and not recommended to follow - when I'm confident and my reads work I get massive rewards, but I also tend to freeze up and just block forever when I'm uncertain which lets people pressure me for free in the corner for like 30 seconds at a time. If you want a player good at blocking watch Japan vids.
You both should just come over to NJ so we can play here instead.
On a side note, I'm really sad :<. I wanted to lose with Aigis a bit.
Minato/Ankoku - good luck tomorrow! One of you should text me if you are gonna be on stream.
On a side note, I'm really sad :<. I wanted to lose with Aigis a bit.
Minato/Ankoku - good luck tomorrow! One of you should text me if you are gonna be on stream.
Sion
Island of Horizon
oh
either way someone was able to sign in
either way someone was able to sign in
He doesn't seem to be having an issues with PSN that I've noticed.
Though I think he's just in practice mode, at the moment.
Though I think he's just in practice mode, at the moment.
Nah, man.
You don't play Kanji, you play chair. Chair doesn't even care about anything. :V
You don't play Kanji, you play chair. Chair doesn't even care about anything. :V
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Yeah, I know it doesn't start till tomorrow and you might not get this tonight or until after, but good luck to Minato and Aisight at SCR on the weekend. Hope you guys have a blast and kick some a--.
God I finally landed one double megido combo.
/sometimes happy for the small things
/sometimes happy for the small things
This is my first grappler, I'm used to a decently fast character with stupid hitboxes and big damage but Kanji's only 2/3's of that so I feel lost a lot of the time.
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LOL I'm in a pool with Minato, ZomB, T-Loc, and Sanoshi. AWESOME.
LOL I'm in a pool with Minato, ZomB, T-Loc, and Sanoshi. AWESOME.
Sion
Island of Horizon
ooh i remember zomB
gl aisight and minato
gl aisight and minato
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Chat I had with Tec just yesterday
1:55:48 PM Minato: I had a dream where pools were posted and Aisight was in my pool a few days ago
1:55:52 PM Minato: I... hope that isn't true lol
Changed status to Online (1:56:11 PM)
1:56:16 PM Teczero: That...
1:56:24 PM Teczero: Is an interesting dream xD
Well this pool is gonna be tough with ZomB and T-Loc. lol
Edit: I guess my yomi is still activated when I sleep
How many people advance from pools, anyway? If it's 2 or 3 I'm potentially ****ed.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
I believe it's top 2. Best of luck to both of us. The other brackets look pretty stacked too.
Also, not really sure who my first opponent is.
Also, not really sure who my first opponent is.
Good luck, guys! :3c
Remember, there can only be one.
Remember, there can only be one.
Minato
穏やかじゃない
Looks like the schedule is finally up for the other games and my pool starts on Saturday instead of Friday.
Wish they had this up sooner but at least I get an extra day to improve and get better from this sickness.
Wish they had this up sooner but at least I get an extra day to improve and get better from this sickness.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
Good luck to you guys in the pool and tourney post-pool. You guys don't have to fight each other right out of the gate, do you? And that's actually kinda funny you called it beforehand...sort of.
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That's hilarious 
Glhf, you two. I'll be watching at home. Hopefully you guys get on stream.
Glhf, you two. I'll be watching at home. Hopefully you guys get on stream.
LivewiresXe
Smash Hero
That's hilarious
Glhf, you two. I'll be watching at home. Hopefully you guys get on stream.
Level Up Live is only doing Top 8 for P4A I think and Top 16 for KOFXIII. James Xie's apparently going to have a stream dedicated to running as much of the P4A tournament on it as possible, for what it's worth.
http://www.twitch.tv/xiei
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Xie's stream is up now with casuals.
LivewiresXe
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Yeah, I'm stream monstering off and on between occasionally switching channels. My bandwidth's gonna take a hit this weekend, I suspect.
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Here's the bracket for our fellow men.
Just wait till tomorrow.
Here's the bracket for our fellow men.
Just wait till tomorrow.
Good games Minato, I always enjoy playing with you. What would you suggest that I work on?
Minato
穏やかじゃない
GGs, that was fun.
Stuff to work on, I'd say probably try to jump less if you can. Also try to figure out other oki or longer blockstrings.
As for punishing me, remember to run behind me if you blocked my DP. If I do a cross slash, just roll past me and punish if you're in neutral. If I do Ziodyne, I'm pretty sure you can do your super to go right through mine so I don't have the chance to OMC it.
Other than that, you do rather well considering the matchup. Just practice teching throws more and OMCing blocked GCs.
Yeah, trying to neutral jump out of blockstrings is the bane of my existence. And I like j.B way too much lol.
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Someone tell me when I should be running/jumping. I think have a bad habit of always trying to airdash to move, so I always end up trying to jump after a blockstring. Or just use it to move overall.
Just watched one of my replays and I tried jumping like 4x in a row after blocking and the opponent whiffed. Then again my input sucks and I probably was trying to AD back 4x, lol.
Just watched one of my replays and I tried jumping like 4x in a row after blocking and the opponent whiffed. Then again my input sucks and I probably was trying to AD back 4x, lol.