Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[sakuraZaKi]

I'm fine with my C/C+ range.

C fo' lyfe.

 

[Teczer0]

Y'all don't know about my F- rank I think I have.

 

[Sion]

F- to D-: press buttons all the time
D to C+: pressing buttons, dping/rolling all day
B to A: knows how to combo, still dping/rolling
A+ to SS: has some matchup exp, smarter

most common letter grade experiences

i find that rank/PSR mean almost nothing. i have only played against 2 notable S ranks. one aigis player that i ran into on netplay, and minato. aisight too. i don't know if he's S rank tho

 

[sakuraZaKi]

aisight is S, yeshum.

Tbh, I should be in the B's, I can imagine.

General ranked netplay is just too laggy, though. It's hard for me to want to even touch it. Not a lot of people are available when I Custom Match it.

 

[Sion]

i'm not trying to compare you guys to that letter grade chart i just made lol

also i feel like your net is really good, sakurazaki. my connection to you was a 3 at one point, and i never get 3s with anyone in cali. i'm surprised that you're not connecting with anyone, though. i feel like cali would be the best place to find people on netplay. that or possibly east coast/tristate area

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I might be picking bad times to play, too, heh.

Yeah, my internet is pretty good, so it's good to see people from far places getting a relatively good connection. I can get games on during the weekend, but I generally get on pretty late at night on weekdays (after homework and whatnot). I'm sure everyone is tired or something by then, but I dunno.

It's a bit early, like mid-week, lol, but anyone up for rounds this weekend? Or planning on playing this weekend? :>

 

[Minato]

i find that rank/PSR mean almost nothing. i have only played against 2 notable S ranks. one aigis player that i ran into on netplay, and minato. aisight too. i don't know if he's S rank tho

Yeah. I'm actually a pretty bad S rank player compared to the others I've met lol. But that's because my playstyle is too focused on waiting for an opening or for the opponent to make a mistake.

Also, this game seems to be teaching fundamentals pretty well since some people I've played are improving things like spacing, pressure, oki, and etc instead of just combos. Only bad thing, imo, is DP being two buttons for lower level players. At the same time, DP being two buttons are really good for the smarter players lol.

 

[Crusayer]

I need to practice my combos so I can actually do damage.

Me not knowing how to confirm into damage combos at midscreen (without omb) makes my game be like "please guess wrong 10 times".

 

[Zankoku]

I'm only S rank because my friend who played BlazBlue got there in like two days on my account. I have an alt at B rank.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Ack. Heading out to T13 tomorrow night. So hype. Gonna be a blast and getting back Monday night despite only having a place to crash secured for Friday and Saturday nights, lol.

 

[Umby]

I was playing a lot more horrid than usual tonight and realize that my approach and spacing are terrible. I feel like I can't really threaten anyone to *not* press a button and I get hit by things I shouldn't be getting hit by so often. Either with Naruakami or Aigis I keep hearing "press 5B" or "press j.C" respectively, but I'm having trouble picking spots when doing so. I especially feel like I force the approach with Narukami. When I'm outside of 5B/2B range but close enough that that most opponents can air dash and touch me with the furthest part of their aerial, I feel stuck because pressing a button likely gets me counter hit. If I don't press a button, though, it's like giving the opponent a chance at a free jump in when I don't react.

That said, I'd like some intel on approaching with Yu and Aigis. I obviously have trouble with the neutral game as well, but I feel like that's been gone over in this or another thread before.

 

[Lythium]

Have you tried watching any match videos? Find some good Aigis and Yu players, and watch to see how they approach, and how they play their neutral game. If there's any particular match-up that you play more often than others, check those out first.

Dustloop has a pretty good selection of videos. Also, jourdal and pktazn upload a lot of Japanese match videos on their channels, check them out as well.

Edit: also, if you have a capture device or some way of recording your matches, I'm sure some people here could give you a critique as to what you need to work on. At least in the Narukami sense, we've got a couple of those, right?

 

[Umby]

I recorded/posted a couple of Aigis vids here a while back. I haven't really worked much on her since then, so not much has changed, save that I occasionally just JUMP FORWARD instead of boosting across the screen the moment I get into Orgia Mode. I'll post them again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWggMqnt5E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr0PvnUR8jU

Admittedly, I don't watch as many vids of other players as I should, but when I do, I can't quite see what it is that they're doing. I come back and watch that Koichi vs FAB vid that Minato linked me to earlier, but I couldn't really understand what Koichi's approach methods were. Not to mention, Kanji was often grounded when Aigis went in, and my opponents usually take to the sky. Apparently my j.A and j.C are good air-to-air options (and it seems so, watching other players), but I keep getting beaten out by everything.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, I'm off to catch my TO bound bus for T13. Hopefully you guys will check it out if you've got time. Hell, you can watch me get bodied on the AE2012 stream AND the P4A stream!

Main stream: www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers
2nd Stream: www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers2

With the whole schedule here: http://torontotoptiers.com/other/t13-what-you-need-to-know/

Though yeah, I did say I'd hype it a bit, lol.

 

[Minato]

Admittedly, I don't watch as many vids of other players as I should, but when I do, I can't quite see what it is that they're doing. I come back and watch that Koichi vs FAB vid that Minato linked me to earlier, but I couldn't really understand what Koichi's approach methods were.

I think that could be a problem. I don't know a lot about Aigis, so I can't say for sure, but I'd try looking at other Aigis players and see if they do things differently. Koichi's a great GG player (and plays other games iirc), but I'm not sure how much he puts into P4A. For all I know, he could be one of those players that just have great fundamentals but are unaware of the small things about the character or game. If you want to analyze match videos, it's best to watch it at least twice at a minimum. Focus on the character you're maining, and then focus on the opponent and how they react.

Also, I might be up for some P4A today. I dunno if anyone has a lobby planned or anything like that.

 

[Umby]

Around what time? I might try an get some games in.

 

[Jam Stunna]

If I'm home tonight, I'm down for a lobby.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I might make a room around 6-7 PM PST since I get back from school at 5.

Room is up guys, come online and I'll start inviting if I see 2+ of you.

 

[Minato]

I'll be on shortly. Probably in 10 mins or so.

 

[Umby]

Let me wake up from nappppzzzzzzzzz~

edit: I'm awake and would like to play.

 

[Minato]

I think Sakurazaki is away. I have to take care of some stuff, so I'll set up a lobby in a bit if he still doesnt.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Umbyyyyyy

This lag is so bad xD

 

[Umby]

Hey guys, stop reminding me why my DP is bad. D:

 

[sakuraZaKi]

How can we make it seem better? lol.

I SHOULD NOT BE LAGGING WITH THIS D:

At least with Minato.

 

[Minato]

Gonna reset my router. This lag is weird.

 

[Crusayer]

Someone add me. I dunno who the host here is lol

 

[Umby]

It seems I still suffer from the inability to stand block after a crouch.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Matches today are so laggy, lol. I wonder if it's on ATLUS or PSN.

 

[Crusayer]

MAN WHAT.

Did your dp clash through my godhand and then dp'd through the clash Minato?

 

[Umby]

It did, but it also hit Tomoe and does that weird thing that happens when you hit the Persona and the character.

 

[Minato]

MAN WHAT.

Did your dp clash through my godhand and then dp'd through the clash Minato?

Chie's like my most played matchup. I know stuff. lol

Also, completely forgot how to use Elizabeth.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Argh, I still need to learn stick control.

I try dashing/air-dashing when I have the chance but I end up going straight up, LOL.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Okay, so blue health does NOT count towards your life total when matches time out.

 

[Crusayer]

^Nope. Lol @ dat timeout. Was waiting for minato to ziodyne me to chip me down but guess not.

That was the 2nd time I have played against an Aigis in my life.

What was even going on

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'm just having an off day today :[ Nothing felt like it worked.

Can't even react to my own hit confirms that I usually do pretty well with.

Ending the room at 10, everyone, ggs :]

 

[Umby]

Okay, when I'm derping with Mode Change B too hard, I think I may be done. GGs guys. Harsh criticism is welcome and encouraged.

 

[Crusayer]

What happened to Jam? He leveled up so much since like 2 weeks ago.

Dat hyperbolic time chamber \o/

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I'm probably going to hit the lab again and practice my hit confirms for a while after this.

I'm so free and rusty, *sigh*

 

[Crusayer]

Oh fantastic last bit there with me failing meteor input 5 times in a row.

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GGs to everyone.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Good games everyone, it was fun as always.