Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[Sion]

i still have j.b axe phobia =(

and i should just be blocking those GCs if i know they're coming. no excuse for me to be dping it or getting hit

 

[Minato]

i still have j.b axe phobia =(

and i should just be blocking those GCs if i know they're coming. no excuse for me to be dping it or getting hit

Depends. If you react too late on jumping, you can't block for a certain amount of frames. If you time your DP, you can clash and then go into a normal.

 

[Lythium]

GGs, sorry that I have to leave so soon. I've got work in the morning.

 

[blindhobo]

can i get an invite?

PSN: blindhobo13

please be gentle...

 

[Minato]

After this match, sure.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Massive Godhand multi-fail...urgh, what the crap?

 

[sakuraZaKi]

What was its all those Dragon Kicks, mang?

 

[LivewiresXe]

What was its all those Dragon Kicks, mang?

Yeah, every single one of thoes Dragon Kicks at the end of that match with Blindhobo (save for 1 I think) was me trying to mash out Godhand. But, that was my fault. If I just kept my composure and made sure to spend that extra little bit getting the input right instead of panic mashing, I probably would have been fine instead of jumping around.

 

[Minato]

Yeah, every single one of thoes Dragon Kicks at the end of that match with Blindhobo (save for 1 I think) was me trying to mash out Godhand. But, that was my fault. If I just kept my composure and made sure to spend that extra little bit getting the input right instead of panic mashing, I probably would have been fine instead of jumping around.

You need to respect your opponent more, Livewire. Liz's SB Maragi is +28 on block and you're still trying to mash something out of it each time. Same goes for too much wakeup Blackspot like I said before.

Also work on your combos more. I see too many bicycle kicks or 5C/sweep into power charge. Get all this down to muscle memory and lobbies will start to slowly help you learn.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

Is room still up?

Invite me if it is pls

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Just keep playing so your muscles know the inputs. Eventually it'll calm down.

It's fine to practice combos and hit confirms on CPUs, don't forget that. If its hard to do on even CPUs, you know you have to keep practicing.

 

[LivewiresXe]

You need to respect your opponent more, Livewire. Liz's SB Maragi is +28 on block and you're still trying to mash something out of it each time. Same goes for too much wakeup Blackspot like I said before.

Also work on your combos more. I see too many bicycle kicks or 5C/sweep into power charge. Get all this down to muscle memory and lobbies will start to slowly help you learn.

Embarassingly, the power charge is an accident half the time, and me trying to get way too fancy the other half, so I really should try to simplify it more. That, and I'm used to 5A and 5B as primary starters or j.C as a counter-hit one, so I should probably go through the list and look for some other starters.

Edit: Thanks Sakurazaki, I'm gonna keep at it and try to branch out a little.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

wait what just happened?

 

[Minato]

This lobby is glitching, at least on my end. What's going on? lol

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

somehow i played sakurzaki twice in a row, then everyone left except me you and rutger.

Confirm/deny?

 

[blindhobo]

damn i have to stop for now but it feels like i didn't play at all.

thanks for games everyone. i went on auto pilot at times and just started pressing buttons. ugh.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

No, lobby is fine. It just glitched and allowed us to pay twice. That was supposed to be my last match, so I left. Blindhobo left the same time I did. Leaving Minato, Rutger and you.

GGs though everyone. I'm getting a feel for this now. Kinda. I still need to work on my Yosuke matchup, even if I did win some today. Sukukaja scares the crap out of me.

I'm open to suggestions and giving suggestions if you feel like it.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

GGs.

Losing with chie too heartbreaking

 

[Rutger]

GGs everyone.

I don't even know where to go anymore, I can't react to anything. Maybe there's too much lag, my TV probably adds some too.

Or maybe I'm just bad, who knows. :/

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I noticed that you played really defensive from the get-go when playing me and blindhobo. Like, you never went in too much, even if I knew you could. I dunno if it's because we're zoners, but in that case, you should be the aggressor anyway.

 

[Crusayer]

Same goes for too much wakeup Blackspot like I said before.

Wut. How is this a thing. I'll just believe that livewire has the same problem as me doing the meteors input `-`.

 

[Minato]

GGs, everyone. I wanted to do like a 2 hour lobby but everyone kept inviting more people lol. Been playing Persona in general since 11 AM, so I'm exhausted. I'm starting to remember Yosuke, and my Narukami reactions could be better. I didn't punish some opponent's habits as I should have.

GGs everyone.

I don't even know where to go anymore, I can't react to anything. Maybe there's too much lag, my TV probably adds some too.

Or maybe I'm just bad, who knows. :/

I seriously don't mind giving in-depth tips to you or anyone over PMs or something. What I've noticed is probably a few main things. You get too surprised when you're able to land an easy hit confirm liked from a whiffed DP, and you'll sit there and not take advantage of landing an easy 2C. Another is your wakeup game. I think it'll be best if you try to not mash 5A/throw/DP after some knockdowns so you can get confident at blocking more. Also remember that his DP can still be safe jumped, it's just hard to get the timing. Last is maybe getting some of that movement down a bit more. I'd like to see more gliding on offense instead of just neutral game.

Wut. How is this a thing. I'll just believe that livewire has the same problem as me doing the meteors input `-`.

That's what I'm guessing. I honestly feel that Chie doesn't need to resort to wake up God Hand though.

 

[Crusayer]

Wake up godhand is pretty satisfying though~

 

[Rutger]

I noticed that you played really defensive from the get-go when playing me and blindhobo. Like, you never went in too much, even if I knew you could. I dunno if it's because we're zoners, but in that case, you should be the aggressor anyway.

Against you, I get hit by random fans if I'm not careful, sometimes I can't block in time after you throw one and I've started to dash, which should be no problem full screen.

Same with Liz's shenanigans.

Maybe I'm too cautious, but it feels like I get hit out of everything if I'm not very careful. Well, of course I get hit if I'm not careful, that's a stupid statement, but I feel some of my actions should be much safer than they end up being. Because maybe lag. :/

I seriously don't mind giving in-depth tips to you or anyone over PMs or something. What I've noticed is probably a few main things. You get too surprised when you're able to land an easy hit confirm liked from a whiffed DP, and you'll sit there and not take advantage of landing an easy 2C. Another is your wakeup game. I think it'll be best if you try to not mash 5A/throw/DP after some knockdowns so you can get confident at blocking more. Also remember that his DP can still be safe jumped, it's just hard to get the timing. Last is maybe getting some of that movement down a bit more. I'd like to see more gliding on offense instead of just neutral game.

I think I'll take you up on that offer. I'm going to bed though, so I will not be able to respond until tomorrow.

Unfortunately, with the easy hit confirms I think I'm just not reacting fast enough, maybe some of it is the lag but more often than not I'm just not expecting it. It's something I've really wanted to work on too, I have that decent FC combo and I never get to use it.

I never thought I mashed too badly on wake up, I guess I picked up a bad habit since I played BB, wake up throws in GG certainly didn't help. I'll work on cutting down on that next time I play.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

If it helps, I'll tell you that my fans aren't really random, XD

At least, I don't intend them to be. Otherwise, I just screwed up the input or trying to mess with you. I use them to cover my Persona as part of the blockstring and to stop incoming aggression. Also, I actually try to aim at you or aim ahead of your movement in the case of j.fan. If you were moving a lot more (e.g. stuff like Dashing and Mirage to evade my projectiles, etc.), I think you'd be better off against me. Yosuke's a fast dude. If I whiff a fan (which I do a lot) you probably can close in. It's why I hate the matchup a lot, lol.

If anyone is interested in P4U stuff, http://www.youtube.com/user/BanchouJP is a good channel

 

[LivewiresXe]

Wake up godhand is pretty satisfying though~

I'll agree with you on that. Though...when you keep doing Dragon Kick instead it's like "oops".

 

[Lythium]

GGs, guys.

Minato, stop playing my waifu and using all my setups. ;-;

S4kurazaki, I don't think I've played you before (maybe once or twice?), so GGs! I'm sorry I didn't respect any of Yukiko's shenanigans, but I don't know that match-up at all, lol.

Sion, you dodgin'.

Rutger, try not to throw me on my wake-up so much. Also, Yosuke is annoying.

 

[Rutger]

If it helps, I'll tell you that my fans aren't really random, XD

At least, I don't intend them to be. Otherwise, I just screwed up the input or trying to mess with you. I use them to cover my Persona as part of the blockstring and to stop incoming aggression. Also, I actually try to aim at you or aim ahead of your movement in the case of j.fan. If you were moving a lot more (e.g. stuff like Dashing and Mirage to evade my projectiles, etc.), I think you'd be better off against me. Yosuke's a fast dude. If I whiff a fan (which I do a lot) you probably can close in. It's why I hate the matchup a lot, lol.

If anyone is interested in P4U stuff, http://www.youtube.com/user/BanchouJP is a good channel

I didn't mean random as in you throwing out fans without any reason, but that I sometimes get hit out of my dash even though I am already holding back to block it.

I'm pretty sure there is no recovery on running, so I should be blocking them a little more often than I do. It happens with a lot of projectiles, it's just a lag thing I have to deal with. :/

Rutger, try not to throw me on my wake-up so much. Also, Yosuke is annoying.

Okay. :3

 

[Minato]

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I didn't mean random as in you throwing out fans without any reason, but that I sometimes get hit out of my dash even though I am already holding back to block it.

I'm pretty sure there is no recovery on running, so I should be blocking them a little more often than I do. It happens with a lot of projectiles, it's just a lag thing I have to deal with. :/

Oh, okay. I actually have that same problem. That one time Minato did wakeup Cross Slash after my Maragidyne unb. setup, all I did was just run at him. He said I could block it, and I intended to, but it didn't work.

Made me question if there really is recovery on running startup or if it was lag.

 

[Zankoku]

There is recovery from running, but I'm pretty sure it's less than Cross Slash's post-flash startup.

 

[Minato]

There is recovery from running, but I'm pretty sure it's less than Cross Slash's post-flash startup.

There's no recovery from running. There's a brake animation, but you're still considered in a neutral state since all your options are still available to you. This is only because there's no substitute for FD or BB.

 

[Zankoku]

Are you able to crouch when in brake animation?

 

[Minato]

Are you able to crouch when in brake animation?

Actually, iirc, crouch is the one thing the game doesn't allow you to do during a breaking animation, but you're still allowed to crouch block.

I guess that only hinders trying to duck under high profile moves to avoid block stun, but that's about it.

 

[Zankoku]

I always attempted to catch committed dashes with air-dive, I'm wondering now if that's legit or just people reacting hella late because they were running.

 

[Minato]

I always attempted to catch committed dashes with air-dive, I'm wondering now if that's legit or just people reacting hella late because they were running.

Not a good idea. Offline, I just cancel into 2A to leave myself with a crouching hitbox.

 

[LivewiresXe]

If you can crouch-block out of run-stop, does that count as part of the input for moves, or does it not since you're technically not allowed to crouch?

 

[Minato]

Yes, it will include the inputs. I'm pretty sure in every fighter, it will never ignore inputs because of situations.

 

[Lythium]

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You are da bess. <3

Also, I'm just kidding, haha.

 

[Sailor Princess Twenty-Two.]

I have a question about TV's. I wanna play rpgs, but on my crv tv the text is too small. But whenever i play games on my friends hdtv's there's noticeable delay that i cant deal with if i want to play fighting games. Is there a happy medium? or do i just have to switch off between TVs?

either way can anyone suggest a TV i should buy?