Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[Flame Hyenard]

My controls are basically the default ones for Wiichuck without tap jump on, so yes I do use C to jump. One thing I found funny, is that if I had tap jump on I find it impossible to DACUS with Snake no matter what, but with tap jump off I can do it just fine.

In Melee, you couldn't configure your controls I believe... I can't imagine Brawl without the customizing controls option O_O

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I would like to report that Dammitom got ***** by my in bracket last weekend.

I ran like a ***** and spammed tire gayness.

Next time, we're gonna do the ditto. Prepare to eat my 9.

And then lose to my

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

So what ratios are being argued for or against us in the MU Chart?

 

[Shadow the Past]

I just don't understand how people play with tap jump off. Like yeah, utilt all of a sudden becomes a lot easier to execute, but it seems like rising aerials becomes incredibly hard.

I always have my thumb on the A button, and I can just roll it from right to left to hit the X button then the A button to do an aerial.

I don't use C stick for aerials except when I'm DIing or something like that.

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

Yeah, you can literally press X and A at the same time with your thumb. I have Y mapped to grab to make boost pivot grabbing super easy, just roll my thumb over the A and Y buttons.

 

[Sar]

I always have my thumb on the A button, and I can just roll it from right to left to hit the X button then the A button to do an aerial.

I don't use C stick for aerials except when I'm DIing or something like that.

Weird, I'm the exact opposite. I use c-stick exclusively for aerials (aside from nair, of course). Having to move the control stick in the direction of the aerial you want to do, and therefore changing the movement of the character itself, seems too limiting. Retreating fairs, bairs, and falling uairs all are next to impossible.

I guess it's just whatever works.

 

[Shadow the Past]

I mean I can still do aerials with the c stick if I can't sacrafice the momentum to move the control stick.

I also have L set to jump if I ever need to do stuff with other characters, like Gdorf SH dair.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I play default controls. I'd like to think I'm special.

 

[SFA Smiley]

I roll my thumb for rising aerials and use the cstick for shorthopped aerials

 

[Damittom]

I would like to report that Dammitom got ***** by my in bracket last weekend.

I ran like a ***** and spammed tire gayness.

Next time, we're gonna do the ditto. Prepare to eat my 9.

And then lose to my

Yo Im not scared of your gws imma do so much gay stuff to you in the ditto you're gonna turn straight.

Imma tech Chase you so hard your gonna have to change your name back, V.H.

 

[Sar]

I'm going to have a small tournament with some of my friends in the near future, somewhere between 10-15 people. Should I do double emilination brackets or pools/round robin?

 

[-LzR-]

Always have pools.

 

[Flame Hyenard]

I've done many small Wi-Fi tourneys on DeviantArt (held in the SSBBrawlers group, who's host is one of the admins of Smash Wiki), and my preferred way of doing a tourney is via Round Robin, because one gets to fight everybody, to confront our own skills against every other (as opposed to just a select few via Elimination Brackets). That's my opinion.

 

[Sar]

Always have pools.

How do the tournaments you usually go to work? I was reading this thread Overswarm made and it seemed like his method might be pretty effective. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=324691&page=9

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Yo Im not scared of your gws imma do so much gay stuff to you in the ditto you're gonna turn straight.

Imma tech Chase you so hard your gonna have to change your name back, V.H.

Lmao.


I'm going to destroy you.


Money Match at Lordy's v6.

$20 Minimum.

Come and get educated by a real son.

 

[Rizen]

*Pops in*
Good luck at the tourney Sar.

I use C for most directional attacks.

Still using G&W with several other characters.

Good luck everyone

*pops out*

 

[-LzR-]

How do the tournaments you usually go to work? I was reading this thread Overswarm made and it seemed like his method might be pretty effective. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=324691&page=9

I ran that method twice. It was amazing. Things were done fast, everyone got to play a lot more and so on. People didn't like it though so I was forced to change back to pools/bracket method.

 

[Sar]

Ok, ill probably give that a shot. Rizen, sick picture btw.

And i have another question about usb loading. I got it to work and everything, and i turned on the setting for ocarina, but still no music/textures. I have the files in the right destination folder, wii/apps/rsbe/fighter or whatever ( i cant remember exactly right now, but it worked before w/ gecko, so I know it's right). What am I doing wrong?

 

[SFA Smiley]

Only match I have from yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5-Av-qjSY4

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

I have the one where Ness beat you, I'll upload it when I get the chance. The spikes were so legit.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Oh yeah I forgot that one. I actually saved it because I thought so too

 

[SFA Smiley]

Does it annoy anybody else when low tier users (i'm not talking about real low tiers like Falcon I'm talking about mid tier esque types like ROBs and Ness' and whoever) talk to you as if Gdubs is like some top tier character and giving you the: "You don't know my struggle" speech

It's really annoying for me. Like I get it you use a ****ty character but I didn't make your character suck.

So many people don't realize how hard it is to win in tournament with this character. If I had to fight Mario's all day then hell yeah but guess what, I'm losing to the same matchups you are I just have some more manageable ones like Wario and MK

I put work into my character too.

 

[-LzR-]

Yeah. Though I believe GW himself to be midtier so we feel the same way as them.

 

[SFA Smiley]

I SORTA think we're mid tier

I think if we didn't have the few evenish matchups we have like D3, Wario, ZSS, TL, Pika and our decent MK matchup we'd be mid. But we do so I think the fact that even though we lose to most of the top tiers it's the fact that we have redeeming matchups that actually matter that makes us borderline.

 

[-LzR-]

Well there's Olimar, ICs, MK and Marth who are pretty hard for us. 4 hard MUs in toptier really is a good reason to have a character in midtier, but GW should be the best midtier for sure.

 

[Shadow the Past]

G&W I expect to go down in the next tier list, but I don't think he should be in Mid, even if he was at the top. That's just too low, imo.

 

[Gardex]

@Smiley That match was yours. Ignoring your janky first loss stock(twas hilarious) and some questionable choices both offensively and defensively(fsmash oos after blocking snake ftilt when he's not even at kill % and NOT backing off/shielding after he shields your bair), you still played really well.

Ending. Usmash, not fsmash. Saved his life, cost yours. Usmash actually has beastly range, so it's not like Snake could've drifted out of its range.


Olimar and MK shouldn't be compared to ICs and Marth

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

I remember reading somewhere that our fair can beat Marth's fair. How is this possible? Does ours have higher range?

 

[-LzR-]

It can't, but it will beat it if Marth whiffs it because of our great airspeed.

 

[SFA Smiley]

@Smiley That match was yours. Ignoring your janky first loss stock(twas hilarious) and some questionable choices both offensively and defensively(fsmash oos after blocking snake ftilt when he's not even at kill % and NOT backing off/shielding after he shields your bair), you still played really well.

Ending. Usmash, not fsmash. Saved his life, cost yours. Usmash actually has beastly range, so it's not like Snake could've drifted out of its range.


Olimar and MK shouldn't be compared to ICs and Marth

Yeah I know. I was expecting an airdodge but Usmash was still the better choice. I actually thought "Which move should I use in this situation" and I chose Fsmash and was wrong *shrug*

Also another thing I did that bothered me was the telegraphed attempt at the Up-B kill. I've never played that guy before so I should've just went for it. But I've done that to everybody in my scene at least once so they all expect it so I bait the air dodge and up-b. Except I never played him so I shoulda just went for it, pretty sure it wouldve won me the match at that point too.

It was also pretty lame because I got first seed and shouldve gotten someone easier. The person in my pool who got second in my pool got an easier opponent than I did because when they seeded they set it up so I didn't play other's from my town. WHich I do appreciate but it kinda screwed me. Next tourney, though.

Edit: Also yeah at the first stock. I thought My key would clank but I guess it didn't come out fast enough

 

[Sar]

Are there many midtier tournies nowadays/is GW usually included as a mid tier? Because as i see it, GW is in a worse position than a lot of mid tiers. Too good to be included in mid tier tournaments, so we can't win those, and too bad to do well in regular tournaments.

And GW should definitely drop in the next tier list seeing as we haven't discovered anything new for him in... forever. And he's so hard to use at higher levels of play. He's just too predicatable, has very few reliable approach options, and very few mixups. When was the last time someone did well with GW at a big tournament? Vinnie uses him now and again, but he always loses.

 

[boss8]

luigi is also a mid tier god....

 

[SFA Smiley]

GW is still too good for mid tier. I think this is the most accurate position for him to be. He's too good for mid-tier.

He should stay where he is.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Reminiscing on the old days of Gdubs and I noticed someone posted this

"yeah...we need a new gaw player to emerge and play him differently. everyone has the same style and plays GaW the same."

It's funny how the character has evolved, right?

I don't really feel as though this is the case anymore, it seems as though we all play this character with pretty limited options differently. Pretty sure that's out of necessity, though, because if we all played him the same we'd get *****... harder.

Edit: Random Thought: When I was playing M2K at Apex he DI'd my down throw off the ledge into the spike so I couldnt tech chase him, **** blew my mind.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Now all we need is a new AT or a good frametrap.
I think even a nonspecific new tech could help..

 

[boss8]

jab>footstool>dair?

 

[Sar]

Do we have any grab releases? like at all?

Random thought: why did oldschool ICs think that GW was a bad matchup for them? I'm looking at this oldschool IC guide and it suggested picking up marth as a counter to GW, like wtf.

 

[Shadow the Past]

Do we have any grab releases? like at all?

Random thought: why did oldschool ICs think that GW was a bad matchup for them? I'm looking at this oldschool IC guide and it suggested picking up marth as a counter to GW, like wtf.

probably not since g&w is short as hell. maybe if we get someone on the ledge but nothing special besides maybe a free fair.

 

[Sar]

jab>footstool>dair?

And our jab has like only three frames of advantage on the hit, which isn't too much, doubt it would work.

But i feel like dair could be used better. It does like 19 damage if you hit with both the spike and the landing hotbox, which is really cool. It's just that hitting with both is kind of hard.

 

[-LzR-]

Do we have any grab releases? like at all?

Random thought: why did oldschool ICs think that GW was a bad matchup for them? I'm looking at this oldschool IC guide and it suggested picking up marth as a counter to GW, like wtf.

Back then bair was like the best move. It ***** Icies. Now with ISSDI and bair having been figured out, it's actually very very bad, our worst MU according to Vinnie, though my personal experience leads me to believe GW ***** ICs.