Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[SFA Smiley]

No, my actual name is Zee, short for Zetarius.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Marth. 10Marfs

10Klaws.

Oh wait, this is about Marth.

Nice name, happyface.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Marth is so much more manageable than our other bad MUs. I'm not even afraid of that MU.

Juggling4lyfe


Also I think I'm gonna go all at that tournament I was telling you about. Gonna need the practice for PS4 since **** just got real in the past 24 hours.

And I disagree I think Marth is harder than everyone but ICs

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I think Snake is harder but that's just me. They're all gay as hell anyway lol

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Snake is said to be easier than olimar. According to Vinnie, at least.

 

[Damittom]

Marth is soo easy, Marth is really a rather straight forward character, no surprises, no gimmicks.

Tech, im gonna be the highest placing

 

[Rizen]

I think Snake is harder but that's just me.

I feel this way too.

Marth is soo easy, Marth is really a rather straight forward character, no surprises, no gimmicks.

Tech, im gonna be the highest placing

Marths get me with counter a lot; I should see those coming. Marth is a great aggressive character but also punishes very well. His stupid floatyness boosts his off stage game. He's strait forward but transitions with the flow of battle well.
Fun trivia: Marth is lighter than Zelda and Peach.

 

[Zano]

marth can just fair everything you do in the air and dtilt all your ground approaches, he ***** gnw fairly hard if he plays smart, you have almost nothing on him, lol

 

[Patches]

^ this. A lot of this.

Marth really does **** us.

 

[clowsui]

Marth is so much more manageable than our other bad MUs. I'm not even afraid of that MU.

you will be after i'm done with you

 

[Damittom]

marth can just fair everything you do in the air and dtilt all your ground approaches, he ***** gnw fairly hard if he plays smart, you have almost nothing on him, lol

Oh man look out guys two moves shut down all of options.

Not to be mean but half the cast can stop all of options with two moves, yet mains are still successful. explain that.

almost always has an uphill battle in a neutral position, that's the problem with looking at match-ups by comparing a few moves/frame data. In game it is almost irrelevant other than knowing which moves can punish your opponents lag.

Trust me, I like to theory craft but just comparing a few moves in a neutral position is a very small part of a matchup

 

[Zano]

gnw mains are successful? Hasn't your character fallen drastically every list? Hasn't the former best player with the character quit and the other moved on to better characters?

and it's pretty bad if a character only needs 2 moves to beat out your entire moveset, plus the rest of what they have to just make it better.

It's not theory crafting, it's straight up fact that Marth is in your top 3 of worst MUs, ICs is probably impossible for gnw tho.

 

[Damittom]

He actually hasn't fallen every list, http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=287382

Also the only reason falls almost every list is because he doesn't have a gimmick that keeps new players wanting to switch to him: no chaingrabs, no infinities. So when good players quit playing, or switch characters to something they like better/find more enjoyable/easier to play (because is certainly not the best character) there are no new players to fill their spot. Because, of this 's game has progressed very little since the early years of brawl, which is why he is seen as a one dimensional character.

 

[-Ominous-]

Eh, we'll see how I do, I'm pretty sure I'll get to play him.

I think ICs>Marth>Diddy>MK/Snake>Oli/Tink.

Everyone else is even, or we beat them.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuRKQgTHik&feature=relmfu

 

[Zano]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7LjEJQjWDg

old, but good example of how fair just ***** gnw hard

 

[SFA Smiley]

Ok yeah marth is one-dimensional but he's the better one dimensional character

 

[Rizen]

Oh man look out guys two moves shut down all of options.

Not to be mean but half the cast can stop all of options with two moves, yet mains are still successful. explain that.

almost always has an uphill battle in a neutral position, that's the problem with looking at match-ups by comparing a few moves/frame data. In game it is almost irrelevant other than knowing which moves can punish your opponents lag.

Trust me, I like to theory craft but just comparing a few moves in a neutral position is a very small part of a matchup

I see no way how you're getting half the cast does that. When people say __________ shuts down everything it's not meant like matches can be played that way. Like if I were to say MK's tornado shuts down everything and he can safely spam it vs these characters: __________ ... um... .......
...okay bad example.
Lol, I'm joking around. Marth is a character who can shut down G&W though. When G&W is shut down, he's shutdown HARD. I'm better with Zelda vs Marth (that's just me) because she does have (c****y) mix-ups and tools but good Marths really shut down my G&W. More than MKs. Everyone needs more than 2 moves, I don't think that was meant literally.
(Even MK needs at least 5: upB, tornado, glide attack, Dair and grab/throws. lol)

 

[Govikings07]

And it sucks because I got so much better since last time you were there. I got to game 3 against K9's MK, which ended up beating me last hit (and my ****ty luck struck again), and then beating Kira shortly after, last hit too. I beat my first PR person as well (GV7)

dont get too excited on this win -_- i went lucas the whole round robin and the 1st match on our set...

also doesnt count towards pr

 

[Gardex]

Marth may feel easier than Snake, but that's only because you have to put in so much work to make the G&W/Snake MU semi-even.(The same way MK has to put in extra work to win the MK/G&W MU)

Marth/G&W is pretty straightforward and might feel ok, but it's most likely the 2nd toughest MU G&W has.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

dont get too excited on this win -_- i went lucas the whole round robin and the 1st match on our set...

also doesnt count towards pr

Nice name search
But still a first win against a pr, whether it counts or not, is still significant to me.

 

[Rizen]

This was an attempt to bring activity to the Link boards. Since it will never see the light of day there I'm posting it here too. 'Just for fun.

Topic:
If Brawl and Melee characters had their abilities and traits like in SSBs and their games but were fighting in a realistic setting how would they rank?

My real fighting tier list.

A
Samus- Her powersuit can survive in space, lava and has a powerful arsenal. Many characters couldn't scratch her.
Mewtwo- Legendary super powerful pokemon
Triforce bearers (Ganon, Zelda, Link and variations)- They each have a piece of the golden power left by the goddesses that created the world.
B
Space Animals- high teck weapons and animal speed. They're not as well protected as Samus though.
Snake- Super Soldier with advanced weapons.
Lucario- Powerful pokemon but less than Mewtwo.
ROB- battle robot. (could be 'C' tier)
C
Bowser- big bad fire breathing monster.
Pit- Greek mythology "Angle" army general
Pikachu- Lightning
Charizard (see Bowser)
Sonic- Super fast
C or D tier, I don't know enough about them
Ness/Lucas-PK Power (I never played their games)
Fire Emblem characters- Magic, super human sword fighting (I didn't play their games either)
D
DK-800lbs Gorilla
ZSS- kind of a weaker super soldier than Snake with less weapons
C Falcon- similar to ZSS
(Melee) Ganondorf (before receiving the triforce)- King of thieves with sorcerer powers.
Mario(Doc Mario)/Luigi/Wario- odd abilities and super human traits
Yoshi- 'Barney Raptor' good survival traits
MK-Flies, sword solves all puzzles (Nightmare in Dreamland)
Jiggz- Sing power
E
Young Link (Before receiving/without the Triforce)- resourceful kid. Could be D or maybe even C tier depending on what point in OoT/MM you take him from.
Squirt/Ivy/Pichu- weak pokemon
Kirby/DDD mediocre powers and bad mobility
Diddy- Champ and Chimp, peanut guns and bananas are worthless in real fighting
F
Peach/ICs/the Pokemon Trainer- they can't do much :/ .
G
Olimar- he's a centimeter tall!

No idea tier
G&W- he's flat. IDK how or IF he'd work in real fighting.

Discuss.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Captain Falcon is S tier. C'MON!

Kirby is A tier, anything she eats becomes a power (watch the old tv show)

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

@ Chi: I see someone didn't learn his lesson from pools at Snooping...



And, I'm not going to argue that does or doesn't **** us mainly because I'm newish to . I have a buttload of game knowledge but I will always take the word of experienced, proven mains over my own.

The only MU I feel like that's just straight up *** is . I've tried it and you just have to play like...perfectly. It reminds me of D3 vs MK in terms of difficulty.

I can imagine being super hard at the high levels of play however. I just still feel like its easier to exploit Marth's mistakes with GW because there's no "Oh, I'm gonna get hit? *drop nade and trade* " option.

Oh well I have no reason to use in those MUs anyway when I have lol.

Oh and Tom brought up an interesting point. This character is similar to D3 to where ther just needs to be more people representing him and doing well. Although its unlikely without some ground breakin discovery GW is climbing up the tier list. I mean D3 STILL dropped ever tier list even with Coney and 4GOD taking names. Wolf climbed up the tier list because Kain and a select group of others showed that Wolf's limits aren't as crippling as we originally thought and that he's a perfectly capable character. That is one form of success. But for a character who's limits have been long since established like ours, the tier list should be the least of our worries. Its really just about performing well in tournament and changing peoples' opinions about your character. The list is determined by (generally educated but still) a group of people who value different factors more than others. Who's to say that list is 100% accurate or ever will be. I mean **** is second now lol.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Marth is very hard, but ICs are worse. That's why I play rob.

Snake is like an Olimar that survives longer. He likes trading damage, but forgets how early we can kill him.

 

[Rizen]

Kirby was referred to as a boy from dreamland in his first game.

I can imagine being super hard at the high levels of play however. I just still feel like its easier to exploit Marth's mistakes with GW because there's no "Oh, I'm gonna get hit? *drop nade and trade* " option.

_______________
Who's to say that list is 100% accurate or ever will be.

I'll take G&W mains' word about Marth being harder than Snake but I still feel like what chase said^ about the MU. Snake's stage control and ability to force approaches is scary.

________________
Lol, I honestly believe no one has or will ever say that seriously.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

marth can just fair everything you do in the air and dtilt all your ground approaches, he ***** gnw fairly hard if he plays smart, you have almost nothing on him, lol

*Assuming the gaw player doesn't play smart*

And what's with you guys and your infatuation with africa-american men.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Because they're sexy.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

You guys are racist. :gwbrawl:

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

It's racist to think that it's racist.

 

[Rizen]

If anything, saying they're sexy would be harassment. It's nothing.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Calling them African American is also bad.

I saw some interview and they asked this guy how it was like to be an African American and he said first off, I'm not African. Second off, I'm British, not American.

 

[Alphicans]

marth can just fair everything you do in the air and dtilt all your ground approaches, he ***** gnw fairly hard if he plays smart, you have almost nothing on him, lol

Maybe in a perfect world. GaW's fair can **** up marth really badly, and so can dtilt. We have the same things on marth it's just harder to use against him than it is the other way around. The real thing that marth has over us is his grab game (usually to punish landings). GR to tipper fair is very unfairly good vs us.

 

[Govikings07]

Nice name search
But still a first win against a pr, whether it counts or not, is still significant to me.

i keep track of the gnw threads as well as rob, lucas and lucario...

i hope youre not the kind of person that also thinks that friendlies count towards something

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Well it was in the round robin, which was for money, and they said It counted as a legit tournament.

And I forget that you play gnw too haha, I only see you play rob and lucas.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Marth can tipper Fair from GR on us?


That's so wrong.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Kirby is A tier, anything she eats becomes a power (watch the old tv show)

Except it's actually a "he". 8P And he's pretty strong, to be honest.

A
Samus
Mewtwo
Sonic - Aside from very being fast, he's rather strong
Captain Falcon
Bowser - He's freaking Bowser.

B
Space Animals
Ness
Ganondorf
MK
R.O.B
Snake
ZSS
Kirby - He is actually pretty strong and durable, as seen on the anime
Lucas

C
Pit
Link
Charizard
Pikachu
Ike
Marth
DK

D
Mario(Doc Mario)/Luigi/Wario
ICs - They're two and they have hammers
Young Link
Yoshi
Ivysaur

E
Squirt/Jiggaly/Pichu
Diddy

F
Peach

G
Pokemon Trainer

No idea tier
Lucario (didn't watch the movie/don't play Pokemon)
G&W
Olimar - He's a cm tall!

 

[SFA Smiley]

Nvm **** olimar again

 

[Rizen]

I haven't seen the Kirby show and only 1 or 2 pokemons.

Nvm **** olimar again

I don't know what you said but probably agree.

 

[-LzR-]

If you are trying to do a Canon tierlist or something, Ganondorf must be number 1. He is practically invincible and only the master sword can actually hurt him. And only Link has that stuff.

 

[Rizen]

I had Ganon be a top tier for those general reasons. In TP the sages capture and really hurt Ganon but couldn't finish him. Only the Master Sword can kill him.

I'm not familiar with Canon tier lists, can you link one?