Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[Damittom]

But you wouldn't have to be in their range, think of it as a spacing tool use it right outside of their range to make your landing unpredictable. Even if they start to read it you can keep them honest by not reversing and using an n-air etc.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

True, that's why I was saying Shuttle Loop. I think I'm just overestimating the range of that.

 

[Vinnie]

But you wouldn't have to be in their range, think of it as a spacing tool use it right outside of their range to make your landing unpredictable. Even if they start to read it you can keep them honest by not reversing and using an n-air etc.

This .

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Well I know in general, but you were saying to avoid somebody with invincibility. Wouldn't it be superfluous in that sense?

If the invincibility is gone, then it definitely has good uses, I was talking about right after spawning.

 

[Vinnie]

Well I know in general, but you were saying to avoid somebody with invincibility. Wouldn't it be superfluous in that sense?

If the invincibility is gone, then it definitely has good uses, I was talking about right after spawning.

Not sure what superfluous means.

Basically, double jump (from offstage to onstage), b reverse off the ledge, sink low, then use your double jump to jump nair (below the ledge), and you won't get edgehogged or hit when an opponent spawns.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

This looks fun.

*goes to play around with it*

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Ohh I understand now. I was thinking on the BF platform like in the video. That makes a lot more sense. ****ing finals, messing with my head.

And btw, superfluous=unnecessary

 

[Rizen]

I keep this bookmarked:
http://dictionary.reference.com/
mainly because I tend to use made-up words which should exist by logic but aren't real.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I rather like this technique after playing with it. Really fun part is that when you're Cyan people can't see your whether you still have invincibility frames from the ledge lmao.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Just another reason to use Cyan gnw.

Dictionaries are useless, I have google

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

So there's this character locked tournament coming up in another week. It doesn't really count for anything besides fun...think I should go for it? Might be a good warm up for my regional in a few weeks.

 

[Rizen]

Dictionaries are useless, I have google

...to find a dictionary program/site.

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Due to the abundance of Meta Knight users, YES BE DIFFERENT AND WIN

And google is a dictionary now

 

[Rizen]

Dictionaries are useless, I have google

point and case

And google is a dictionary now

 

[-LzR-]

Awesome stuff Vinnie. Any way you can make it a thread or something? Like with a video and some tips and stuff. It would be kinda helpful since after like a week, I'm not gonna find those posts in the social anymore =/

 

[SFA Smiley]

What do you care, you don't use this character

And yeah i've been b-reversaling my bacon more

Vinnie what aerial do you use to platform cancel with Gdubs? I use dair but I can't tell if there's a more efficient way to do it, or I should keep practicing it with dair

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

You don't need to do an aerial to platform cancel, you can just use the analog stick and tap/release down at the right time.

 

[SFA Smiley]

You don't need to do an aerial to platform cancel, you can just use the analog stick and tap/release down at the right time.

Oh actually, i already knew that, now that I think about it.

It just didn't occur to me to do it with Gdubs.

Cool.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

I think the true "scrubs" aren't those players who call lame things "cheap" (lame things like edgehogging, spamming and even chaingrabbing), but those players that decide to main a Top Tier character as an easy route to victory JUST to win without really caring about the fun behind it or if they're even interested in the character. Guys like that can't deal with the real work it takes to practice a character you actually like and overcome the tier handicap.

In the end, it's just the character most of the work. Don't be like that, guys. (no offense, happyface)

EDIT: To be honest, I have respect towards alot of Top tier users. I'm just ranting over someone I know that does that. :/ (I like most Top tier characters, but seeing people selling off to MK is lame)

 

[-LzR-]

What do you care, you don't use this character

Not in tournaments, but I at least did wreck for a while that I did use this character seriously

 

[Deleted member 189823]

waaahhh i changed to the best character in the game because i kept getting pwned because i didnt practice enough

 

[-LzR-]

Ahem. Let me tell you a story. Once upon a time 2 years ago there was this place called Finland. It was an awesome place. We played Brawl. 2 years a MK main made his debut in his first tournament and placed well and kept doing so. Once upon a time half a year ago, MK was banned and this MK main had to find a new character. He found G&W, he was cool, simle and easy to use. He placed kinda well first time and then got to the GFs the second time. Then he got into ICs and then MK was unbanned. End of story. Now go to bed kids, it's pretty late.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Oh...in that case, I apologize. You're not really a scrub.

Also, is it true your best player is a Bowser main?

 

[-LzR-]

That is a common misconception. Skinutksi is a Dedede main and he used to dominate. Today, even I place better than him. Thank you.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Meh, I think true scrubbishness is blaming everything except yourself when you lose.

And just banning things you don't know how to beat.

When I had my Olimar problem (which I probably still have) I didn't try to get him banned or something stupid like that. I was more confident in going ANY other character (even ****ing bowser) against him. But I took the lickings as GW. Tourney after tourney because I knew he was beatable and I will never beat him as Gdubs if I used Marth, or MK, or Peach, or pocket Falco. Recently I finally beat the Olimar that ALWAYS ruined my tourney experience and I understand the matchup (versus that particular player at least) sooo much better now.

While my close circle of friends were complaining about MK and trying to get him banned and quitting against me anytime I would try to use him, I was training myself for that matchup. If better players are doing it, it's possible. I'm the problem. Silly Kyle is largely an inspiration of mine because watching him take his borderline character to that level, and learning the MK matchup as well as he knows with a character that gets ***** by MK just pushes me and reminds me that it IS possible.

Honestly people just need to stop caring about losing. Who cares? If you keep losing, you'll learn how to beat whatever it is you're losing to, then when you play in tourney your adrenaline will kick in and give you that push. After that, you'll be much more confident and start to win. Then it will be your opponents turn to try that against you. If they are a one-trick pony though, or have a weaker mindset you'll probably never lose again. That's why I always strive to get better. As long as my drive is more intense, I will eventually pass them up and they won't be able to keep up.

But I digress

Long story short: one of the reasons I'm against banning this and that (that doesn't truly NEED to be banned) is because all that tornado spam, chaingrabs, etc gay shiz forces you to get better. If I didn't kept getting my rolls read on wi-fi back in 08 i'd still be rolling and smashing over and over again.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

That is a common misconception. Skinutksi is a Dedede main and he used to dominate. Today, even I place better than him. Thank you.

What happened to him?? He was my Finnish hero

 

[Deleted member 189823]

That is another good way to do it, happy face. I also think banning things you don't like is "scrubbish". I never wanted MK banned, even when a guy I know almost surpassed with 2 months of practice with MK vs. my 1 year.
Does spam really happen on that competetive level? It's rather unprefessional and lame, imo. I admit, I have a weakness against spammy players, but that doesn't mean I'll blame them for that. I oftenly admit that it's my fault for not knowing how to deal with it and playing unpatiently at times.

 

[-LzR-]

What happened to him?? He was my Finnish hero

Well he became kinda inactive, didn't play for half a year and if he did, he didn't use Dedede while we others were practicing harder than ever so it's obvious he isn't the best anymore. He is still a top threat here in Finland just like always, he just doesn't dominate anymore.
But he is coming with me and some other Finns to Norway soon so we'll see how he does.

 

[SFA Smiley]

That is another good way to do it, happy face. I also think banning things you don't like is "scrubbish". I never wanted MK banned, even when a guy I know almost surpassed with 2 months of practice with MK vs. my 1 year.
Does spam really happen on that competetive level? It's rather unprefessional and lame, imo. I admit, I have a weakness against spammy players, but that doesn't mean I'll blame them for that. I oftenly admit that it's my fault for not knowing how to deal with it and playing unpatiently at times.

It's not really spam it's just higher level thinking: "Oh i'm doing something effective you can't figure out how to beat? I'm going to keep doing it, because it's effective against you."

That's just how any game is played. Why change it up and give your opponent a chance to win just because you feel sorry he can't adapt? You know what I mean? It's not your fault they suck or whatever.

but yeah, as long as the tactic ACTUALLY isn't gamebreaking, like obvious glitches and shiz like infinite dimensional cape, etc, because that's just not giving your opponent the opportunity to adapt to it. Chaingrabs: do it until they learn not to get grabbed.

Most **** in this game IS beatable considering you are well versed enough in your options and stuff. Against most lower level players who don't understand DI and stuff like that, If I CG you with ICs and try to nana spike you off the stage it seems unbeatable to them because they aren't aware of thier options. I did it to Ominous's samus and he DI'd the spike onto the stage preventing death. He overcame what's percieved as "cheap" with skill.

I find all that gay stuff really fun, because my favorite part of the game is learning to adapt and stuff like that, and fighting to get in. (Except snake's tilts, **** those =/ )

 

[Gardex]

What happened to him?? He was my Finnish hero

No worries, my friend!
Skinutski has been practicing for 2HOT, an "international"(5 different countries being repped, but we'll probably struggle to reach the 50 players-mark) tournament me and some other guy are hosting.
**** is going down, I think we'll see signs of the good old Skinutski there.

 

[Rizen]

^^Que: 'Eye of the Tiger' music.
Also most cheap things are legal anyway.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

I am a fan of chaingrabbing myself. Am I doing it wrong? ):
Snake's U-Tilt is my favorite character in the game.
Tornado spam isn't hard to punish. Just run away from it, shield and punish the landing. Spammy Pits are easy even when I use Bowser because I PS the arrows or constantly airdodge until I get to them. I guess my only problem would have to be Ikes that spam jab.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Tell Skinutski to **** for me!

He has this interesting style that makes me enjoy watching his videos. I wanna see him wrecking **** again. <3

 

[Deleted member 189823]

I can say the same, but with Bowser.
That is one hell of a Bowser. He doesn't even use Klaw.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Wait.....

What's a "Bowser"? Is that slang or something?

 

[SFA Smiley]

Bowser with no Klaw?

But... why?

 

[Rizen]

^^ nothing is sacred.

and what Smily said.

 

[-LzR-]

No worries, my friend!
Skinutski has been practicing for 2HOT, an "international"(5 different countries being repped, but we'll probably struggle to reach the 50 players-mark) tournament me and some other guy are hosting.
**** is going down, I think we'll see signs of the good old Skinutski there.

He has? I haven't seen that guy in ages. He must be doing it over wifi again as usual. I seriously hope he uses Dedede again. That way he can try to prove he still *****. He hasn't been to a tournament since August.

Tell Skinutski to **** for me!

He has this interesting style that makes me enjoy watching his videos. I wanna see him wrecking **** again. <3

We'll see what happens.

I can say the same, but with Bowser.
That is one hell of a Bowser. He doesn't even use Klaw.

You mean Skinutski? If you do, you are wrong. Klaw is like the most important part of Skinutskis Bowser. He relies on it more than anything else.

 

[Dexident]

Another reason why Cyan GW ***** is because on levels with blue sky backgrounds he/the chefness can be difficult to see.

Furthermore pit's arrows are almost the same color and I once beat some guy's Pit and he seemed to say something to the effect that the color similarity really threw him off when I bucketed him. (IDK)

 

[MEOW1337KITTEH]

Black on lylat cruise is like hide and go seek