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Yeah I see where you're coming from, and I touched on this as well in my previous post, however...Unfortunately I don't think he will be one of the 5 DLC characters. Since he said that every new fighter will get a new stage as well… and there is already a Paper Mario stage.... sorry... but I simply don't think we will get 2 Paper Mario Stages, no Paper Mario I guess… at least not until we get the 5 other DLC characters
Yeah that's pretty cool. Sakurai is aware.Has anyone noticed during the Piranha Plant trailer that before its poison attack it turns into the Putrid Piranha from the first 3 PM games? I thought that wsa a cool nod to the series.
Besides this, I really hope PM's DLC. He is the one I want the most after BWD.
I'm very happy about all this.I post in this forum very rarely these days, but I HAVE to for the occasion here.
Essentially, this was, to me the hypest part of the entire direct:
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Now, before you say "lol it's just an alt, why get so hyped?" IT'S NOT! If you watch his reveal trailer at 0:48...
You can clearly see it TURNS into it for the move meaning it is a MOVE representation, not an alt!
This is both the most meme thing I ever heard and also the most amazing thing lol. I have a complicated situation with paper mario playabale, but I NEVER expected to get a move representation out of the freaking pirhana plant which was even LESS expected!
I actually still can't believe we got that lol
They even got the teeth color right. Like it is very clear they took the thing from TTYD/SPM which makes me VERY happy.
Oh by the way, this also happened:
YES!
Anyway, point is, altough there is still hopes for proper ttyd and spm music (pls....), I didn't expected the representation would actually EXPAND! Very excited about the game and I am going to try to main pp for the meme :D
Oh no ;_;Paper Mario seems to be a spirit unfortunately https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrE44IGVsAE3_Ne.jpg:large
Can I please hear your reasoning? It doesn't guarantee ANYTHING, the plant actually referenced so many games it's just one among others, the interesting part about it is how they went as far as to do it for ttyd/spm to get a poisonous attack. Also, not even going to argue about his moveset part: it's clearly far fetched.I'm very happy about all this.
Not because I think it garuntees Paper Mario as DLC, but it does confirm that if he is, his moveset won't be nothing but-
"YAY STICKERS"
I'd argue it's fortunate! ssb4 has a clear case of a trophy getting promoted to dlc (mewtwo) so it's known at this point that if you get a trophy, it doesn't mean much. MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYBBBBBEEE AT, but even then, it's a really illogical assumption.Paper Mario seems to be a spirit unfortunately https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrE44IGVsAE3_Ne.jpg:large
It's not really illogical. ATs being unable to be DLC is just a fan rule. ATs have been upgraded in the past and with their changes, they are closer to playable than ever before so they would provide a nice base to make a character rather than starting from scratch. I'm not saying it will happen but there are obvious benefits to doing so.MAAAAAAAYYYYYYYBBBBBEEE AT, but even then, it's a really illogical assumption.
I said it was a guarantee, I said it SEEMS to confirm. The interesting part is that a design is referenced directly from Paper Mario when we know from experience that Nintendo doesn't like mixing and matching Mario interpretations for some reason. For example, Mojang's Mario pack originally used stuff from Paper Mario like Hooktail as the EnderDragon but it was changed on request.Can I please hear your reasoning? It doesn't guarantee ANYTHING, the plant actually referenced so many games it's just one among others, the interesting part about it is how they went as far as to do it for ttyd/spm to get a poisonous attack. Also, not even going to argue about his moveset part: it's clearly far fetched.
The problem is nothing we have seen changed anything.I said it was a guarantee, I said it SEEMS to confirm. The interesting part is that a design is referenced directly from Paper Mario when we know from experience that Nintendo doesn't like mixing and matching Mario interpretations for some reason. For example, Mojang's Mario pack originally used stuff from Paper Mario like Hooktail as the EnderDragon but it was changed on request.
And this combined with the second part of the Paper Mario Stage does show Sakurai is aware and open to using the Classic Paper Marios. Part of why I lost hope for Paper Mario in this cycle was Nintendo doubling down on the new Paper Mario direction with Color splash which seemed to want to be nothing but the "new" Super Mario Bros games in RPG-lite with papercraft.
You're right, you sound extraordinarily pessimistic. To the point you're trying to bring me down., it seems.The problem is nothing we have seen changed anything.
The second part of the paper mario stage was announced at a time where cs was unheard of so it's kind of irrelevant to bring this one: myself and many others were expecting a change in the series that didn't happen. Also, you still have to consider that 2/3 of the stage was from ss because it happened to be the newest game at the time which means that cs still brings the same problems, just even worse.
Now about pp because you really seem to think it changed that part: it didn't because the series is in the same state except worse than before. The reality here is that in the event that they do decide to put him in and it's mostly from the latest 2 games, it's not Sakurai nor necessary his team's fault, but rather Inteligent System and Nintenfo for creating a situation where it would be logical to do this. Yes, you can still hope in the very unlikely situation they decide to do otherwise, but it has the same chances as before: unlikely and pp the only thing it did is reference a very specific part of TTYD/SPM which actually might have been because they wanted to diversify pp.
Also, I want to talk about DLC because let's look ahead for a moment as I don't think the timing is really good for that part to change. Let's assume due to a miracle, nintendo finally decided to listen to their fans and a game that brings back the series would be in development RIGHT NOW. Well, if you check the release cycle of the series, you will notice that with the exception of sticker star (which had development problems so delays), every game in the series is released after a period of about 4 years.
Color Splash was released 2 years ago and the games (again, with the exception of sticker star which was done early) aren't typically announced until say a couple months before their release (I mean TTYD was released at the same year of the e3 to which it was announced).
My point here is that this imaginary game is projected according to these observations to be released AFTER February 2020 (more like end of 2020). The best hope you could have for its announcement might be on February 2020, but that still kind of too late, they would have planned the last DLC like months before. Essentially, the timing is really bad for him: he won't get a new game in the DLC developing period so in the event that everything changed (which I really think it won't to be honest), well it wouldn't even benefit the chances to have a good moveset for ssb...
I might sound very pessimistic over this and you might not have the same outlook on this situation, but I rather consider everything that has happened since color splash was announced as what IS and Nintendo thinks of the series instead of trying to expect something that would imply that what they said changed overnight.
That's because we actually have 4 Marios: Mario , Doctor Mario , Bad Mario , and Green Mario .One thing I noticed: we have three Links and three Samuses, but only two Marios. Doesn't quite feel right.
Hitagi hasn't gotten anything right yet about Smash, so people shouldn't put stock in him even if Verge trusts him.A leaker has been making claims about who he's heard in consideration for Smash DLC. Among these names, Paper Mario was not one of them. Whether or not this puts him out of the running is up to you.
Toon Link is a background element, so if he's being played Alfonanzo will take his place so it's not an instant kill for Captain Toad so if he's being played then Archivist Toadette will take his placeWell with this direct I've come up with some pros and cons.
Pros:
Captain Toad is virtually de-confirmed due to being in the back-round of New Donk, so that clears up a competing Mario Rep slot and a frontrunner in virtually every Mario Poll for the Mario Rep.
No Mario reps confirmed, so we don't know who the Mario Rep is this time around.
For now? Yeah, probably. However, we shouldn't count out the possibility of a second wave of DLC. If they do decide on doing a second wave, I'm betting they'll be focusing on popular first party characters, where we'd have more than a good chance. Of course there's no guarantee we'll get a second wave, but we shouldn't lose hope just yet!According to this interview it seems that DLC is gonna be third party only. Add that to the fact that more evidence seems to point out that spirits do deconfirm characters and we get a broken dream.
Time to rip the band-aid off, guys. Paper Mario is deconfirmed.