Palutena's Army 2: The Comeback

[kown]

since im a soldier i prolly wont be included in X members to attack and defend.

 

[FzeroX]

since im a soldier i prolly wont be included in X members to attack and defend.

Soldiers are the front line of course you'll be attacking, why else have soldiers (I know how the ranks work so dont reply saying stuff about them)

 

[ChokE]

yeah soldiers are here to fight. Don't feel down kown.

 

[kotahlicious]

kown is so good lol im sick so i cant think of anything else to say

 

[Ryazan]

I don't think a clan should be cut if they don't have a set number of members. I like the idea of having a max and then having the attack and defense. Attacking team sends X number of people to attack, defending team sends Y people to defend. Ban list should also be different. Certain stages (Temple) should be allowed. This isn't a matter of fairness like a tournament. This is a war and thus we should stick to the saying "Alls fair in love and war". If you guys cut teams for not having X number of people on Wi-fi then I think you will lose some members of this war.

But think about it. Most clans have an average of 15 or so active members who have Wi-Fi. Then there's the fact that not every member of the participating clans even wants to fight. We should also limit the number of participating clans to make this easier to organize and keep track of. Like I said earlier, if a participating clan has more than 15 people who can participate, the clan leader can pick 15 members to be on the teams and the others can 1) brainstorm tactics to use against specific characters or 2) be substitute fighters in case one of the fighters is unavailable for their match. About the stage legality thing, I've changed my mind and I agree with you. It will be more fun if every stage is legal.

 

[Sesshomuronay]

Who are we entering anyways, I can if needed but theres probably people better than me.
Well using every stage might lead to annoying ones like big blue or the giant zelda temple.

 

[Ryazan]

Actually, I think having stages like that would make it a lot more fun. I mean come on, how is Big Blue not the craziest stage ever?

We have exactly 20 clan members, 16 of whom play on wi-fi. If the max is 15, then Leonhart, Demontree, Undr, and myself can be tactical brainstormers and/or war organizer aids and one of the others can be a substitute. If you want, Sesshomuronay, you can be the sub.

 

[CorruptFate]

let me know if you can see this one I could see the lastone on smash boards so yah.

 

[Ryazan]

Yeah I can see it. And now I'm hungry.

Wait, is that you?

 

[CorruptFate]

ya I work again today

 

[Ryazan]

nice taste in pizza toppings

 

[kupo15]

mmmm. looks good

 

[CorruptFate]

Hey corrupt I think my clan will be picking either 8, 9 or 17 as our start location. I'm not sure though so I'm just telling you.

And just wondering :
Did you tell Hylian Hellfire about this?

-K let me know when you decide all hold those one for you also I added a path between 2-9 34-18 and 17-19 before you post this so the map you saw is not quite up to date be thats all that has changed.

-I did after i saw your post in there If they don't get back to me to bad we don't want
unactive clans in this anyway.

Okay, since I don't have WiFi, I'll do tactics with Kotah. All created stages are off-limits. The rest are up to you guys since I won't be fighting. Good luck in the war and I will try to make a private forum for our tactics within the next day or two.

-My wifi sucks to my mom get it from people around us so I wont be able to fight but if we do a stand in system incase some one can't make there fight I might be able to.

How exactly will counter-picks work into this? also I would like to see the map I say X be around 20

-We arn't doing counter pick it one fight for each person on each space.

1) Let's stop where we are with the clan inclusion. We don't have to be the only ones doing something like this; if more clans want to do this they can organize another one.

2) Let's ban all the tournament-banned stages, since this is so similar to a tournament.

3) If we have 6 clans I'd say about 15 members each. I know 90 fighters sounds big, but think about it. We're using the best-of-3 campaign system. It will be 6 clans, each with 15 fighters split into 5 teams of 3. This way, not only can all the clans attack from every path at the same time, but there's also plenty of defenders left. However, this would mean that each clan must have at least 15 wifi-enabled active members to participate. If a clan fails to produce this number, we will have to ax them, because that would be easier than reorganizing the whole system just to let them in. If a clan has a surplus, the surplus members can act as tactical specialists and/or fighter substitutes.

Also, All participating clans should have a regularly updated copy of the map on their OP, just so everyone is on the same track.

1.I agree but I think 6 clans is good for now so that people have allies of 2v2v2 kind of thing. Also clans that are in are Palutena's Army, Twilight Hero's, Ninjas of the Shadow, Mushroom Heros, The Green Thunder. As that looks I would asume that the bros would be a team the Zelda's would perfer to be a team that leaves us out.

2.I agree thats why I need a list the person who runs the utah ones kinda makes his own list it had hanonbow as random! (we just got that changes.)

3.I think 10ish could work with allies and how hard it could be for some people to get on at the right time this could lead to less problems for now tell we get this off the ground what you guys think on that to little or what?

But think about it. Most clans have an average of 15 or so active members who have Wi-Fi. Then there's the fact that not every member of the participating clans even wants to fight. We should also limit the number of participating clans to make this easier to organize and keep track of. Like I said earlier, if a participating clan has more than 15 people who can participate, the clan leader can pick 15 members to be on the teams and the others can 1) brainstorm tactics to use against specific characters or 2) be substitute fighters in case one of the fighters is unavailable for their match. About the stage legality thing, I've changed my mind and I agree with you. It will be more fun if every stage is legal.

mmmm. looks good

It was. I work again to day so billythegoat and i are making a chicken alfredo pizza its very good if you havent tried it you should also try a bbq pizza.

-Also not what rights do we want allies to have ex. using others paths, keeping people on the same space so it controlled by both and both can defend it?

-When I have time should be sunday Ill post the rules list and what not so if you guys can, can I get the answers to allies stuff and a number we all like before then.

-we only have room for one more clan tell any clans that I might have missed or bug any you want to to join, try to pick active clans though
never mind hellfire wants in we are full now pick team mates I say pit/link, zelda/ninjas, mario bros

 

[kotahlicious]

thanks for the pizza

 

[Ryazan]

Ninjas of the Shadow with Hylian Hellfire, Mushroom Heroes with Green Thunder, and Palutena's Army with Twilight Heroes. That works out fine.

Allies can protect each other's areas and use each other's paths.

I really think 15 fighters each would work. When a party fights another party, whoever wins the most of those battles wins, so we need an odd number of ppl in each party. 5 parties each would allow for plenty of defense and plenty of offense at all times. And remember, if a clan has more than 15, the rest can do tactics or fill in for fighters who can't make it. Each campaign has a time limit of 1 week to be completed, since the map is going to be updated weekly. If any two parties fail to complete a campaign in this time, the campaign will be canceled.

CF, you should ask all the participating clan leaders to put a copy of the map on their OP.

 

[CorruptFate]

it says that on the rule list im putting up on sunday and they can get new copies from the thread I will start.

 

[smashbro29]

I say neutral only that's FD battlefield yoshi's island smashville and lylat cruise

 

[Rhyfelwyr]

Great work CorruptFate with getting this altogether! How can I help the clan in the war?

An idea about stages. What if each area had it's own permanent stage?

 

[Ryazan]

I'm pretty sure we're going to allow any stage at any time.

 

[Rhyfelwyr]

The reason I suggest it is because it adds a strategic element to the war. The people you send into battle would have to be comfortable with that stage.

It also makes geographic sense, and makes things easier to talk about. For example...

"We're being raided at Yoshi's Island. We should take Battlefield, I do well there. We'll have to try taking Norfair when that guy who does really well there isn't around."

Again, this is only an idea.

 

[Undrdog]

Who said those are the official neutral stages...? ^_^

 

[kown]

what are the other neutral stages?

 

[sagemoon]

The reason I suggest it is because it adds a strategic element to the war. The people you send into battle would have to be comfortable with that stage.

It also makes geographic sense, and makes things easier to talk about. For example...

"We're being raided at Yoshi's Island. We should take Battlefield, I do well there. We'll have to try taking Norfair when that guy who does really well there isn't around."

Again, this is only an idea.

This idea sounds win

 

[Kricu]

But think about it. Most clans have an average of 15 or so active members who have Wi-Fi. Then there's the fact that not every member of the participating clans even wants to fight. We should also limit the number of participating clans to make this easier to organize and keep track of. Like I said earlier, if a participating clan has more than 15 people who can participate, the clan leader can pick 15 members to be on the teams and the others can 1) brainstorm tactics to use against specific characters or 2) be substitute fighters in case one of the fighters is unavailable for their match. About the stage legality thing, I've changed my mind and I agree with you. It will be more fun if every stage is legal.

I lack 15 members total.

 

[Magnacor]

Hey guys. This is Magnacor from the Green Thunder and since this seems to be the central hub for the clan wars thing I just thought I'd post here to say we're in. By the way, weren't we allies at one time? I wasn't very active for a bit so I understand if it crumbled. Lastly is this where all of the discussion on this is going on? No thread in the Wi-Fi section or site or something?

EDIT: And do we have to pick locations? If so what ones are taken?

 

[Clear171]

You guys still taking new members, i use Pit but I need some practice.

1. Clear
2. White
3. Pittsburgh, PA
4. Offer more construcive criticism?
5. 3265 4740 7143

 

[Sesshomuronay]

Were here to help, if you ever need a training partner im open for a fight unless im at school or sleeping.

Leon will add you cause I dont think we got a member limit and it doesnt matter what your skill level is.

 

[Leonhart]

Magnacor, I think that our alliance is still active. Clear 171, you're in.
And while I'm posting, does anyone know how to start a PRIVATE thread? I feel dumb now...

 

[Undrdog]

Nope, can't be done unless you want to take it up with an admin and request the addition of a clan forum that is password protected. Which is probably WAY too over the top for this.

And anyway, I was just messing. While there are other levels that will be candidate for Initial Stages, FD, BF and SV are the three core Initial Stages. Debate over LC and YI are up in the air. And even more so are DP, CS, PC and PS1.

 

[teh_pwns_the]

Pit seems to suffer alot from lag, throws off gliding, looping, swarming, and timings for wing techs

jsut throwing this out there but i think even if our people are better they start at a disadvantage if their is any lag

 

[Undrdog]

And thus my first point about clans. lol

 

[Rhyfelwyr]

That's why this is just for fun. No one should take the results as deciding who's/what's better.

 

[Ryazan]

Magnacor, I think that our alliance is still active. Clear 171, you're in.
And while I'm posting, does anyone know how to start a PRIVATE thread? I feel dumb now...

Actually, for the clan war, they can't be our ally, because all clans can only have one ally and they're already with the Mushroom Heroes. But outside the clan war, yes, Green Thunder is still our ally.

And Kricu, your clan's OP says you have 16 members total.

And also, guys, since the defending party in a campaign chooses the stage, it's always going to be possible for them to pick a "home" stage that fits with that area. If you guys want this rule, all we'd have to do to enforce it is recommend that the defending parties pick stages that correspond with the place they're defending. I should also note that once the defenders pick the stage, all the battles of that campaign will take place on that stage.

 

[Clear171]

so should i add the friend codes of every member of this clan, or just ones that are close to me?

 

[Ryazan]

Welcome to the clan! Just to be safe, add everyone.

Clear171, did you submit your information? If not, go to the first page to find out what you need to give us.

 

[Leonhart]

Clear 171 gave us the info. Thanks for that! And the green thunder is our alliance outside the wars. Link is ours IN the war.

 

[Kricu]

And Kricu, your clan's OP says you have 16 members total.

Ok well I kind of meant lacking 15 active members. I have like 5 right now. That's all I'm saying. Setting a minimum would force us to drop out.

 

[sagemoon]

Yay so for clan thingys.... I got beat 2-3 by kamaji 3-0'd eggz in loser finals, then followed with a 3-0 on kamaji, then 2-3 on kamaji

 

[Sesshomuronay]

Sorry guys but im playing wolf now. So you can cross me off the list if youd like and if any of you need to train against a wolf ill gladly help. This clan was pretty good too but I cant resist wolfs wolfishness.

 

[smashbro29]

about the clan wars can we somehow work secondaries in? certain characters counter each other maybe we can use our ally's character as well (in my case Link)