OS All-Stars: Game over! TOWN WINS!

[frozenmarsh751]

What were you ever planning at getting at with this?

thisthisthisthisthis wow cant believe i forgot to follow up on that

 

[Make it Rain!]

Okay I've calmed down a bit.

Sorry for all the shouting FroMar. Let's try this again without all the frustration factors.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Alright, listen to me. I'm ISOing JTB right now. I want to hear why you think he's scum. Obviously those are two signs that I'm open to talking about it but you need to pull your own ****ing weight on the deal and actually show your reasoning.

I'd love for the marshy half to get this but I guess he doesn't realize the fact that he puts so many reads out there without explaining any is suspicious behavior, especially with how conveniently he gets them.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

Dude I get it. We're both obviously frustrated and I think this TvT yelling bull**** is going to tear this game apart.

That's why I'm trying to advocate my compromise plan. Like seriously. Please read it.

I'll start working on JTB case. No promises I'll finish today but I should be good be tomorrow night.

 

[Make it Rain!]

I told you that if you can convince me JTB is scum, I'm going for it. I think I've found my own little gem.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Not outing it until I see your case. Let's see if you pick up on it too.

 

[Krystedez]

Thanks Frozen.

I'm playing a game of league, I would very much be interested in a case on JTB if that's what is gunna go down.

 

[Make it Rain!]

1. Xonar/Laundry (Make It Rain!)
9. Krystedez
11. Inferno3044
15. El Zv
Not budging here.

Out of these;
7. Red Ryu - Disgusting play.
10. JTB - Still town but interested in the reread and Fro's perspective.
17. Frozenflame751/Marshy - Simply not willing to bring this into a 3man lylo, and you should understand that.

7 alive (4 to lynch)
say we lynch+scum nkill
bringing it to
5 alive (3 to lynch)
I'm willing to have you there. You can't alpha.
At that point, I'm simply forced to lynch you.
Bringing it to
3 alive (2 to lynch)

inferno can't ****ing shoot
i'm willing to **** jtb outta here today
but fromar has to die tomorrow
that should set up a lylo of ruy/kryst/ either zv or us
well
ruy or us/kryst/zv
which is easymodo
get ruy :obv:

 

[Krystedez]

also gunna reread JTB immediately after my session as well if anything is worth pokin' at.

 

[Overswarm]

Krys (1) - JTB,
FrozenMarsh751 (1) - Make It Rain!,
JTB (2) - Frozenmarsh751, Frozenmarsh751,

Krystedez, El Zv, Inferno3044, Red Ryu,

WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[Inferno3044]

My bad guys. Didn't realize I haven't posted. You both are just butting heads and its getting nowhere. Can we decide on a lynch?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

hi. im fine with krys going to endgame and second everything frozen has said. 2 key things:

1. someone needs to do something to get el zv to vote inferno or hammer jtb so inferno can kill his ***** ***. he WILL lurk and continue to do absolutely ****ing nothing til deadline. i have zero interest in losing this game because everyone lets the guy who is too ****ing dumb to be scum do absolutely nothing after hardbodied by the entire scumteam on ****ing d1 just like mister eric in newbie 3. reading this chibo? **** you. reading this xiivi? **** you too

2. if this comes down to inferno/krys/ruy like toad suggested then ruy needs to decide which of inferno/krys he kills. this way if ruy is town we have a safety net

 

[frozenmarsh751]

id also appreciate jtb getting something in soon. i wonder if he skipped work and worked himself up to dive into to this game only to be distracted by league lol

 

[JTB]

I read on and off today, mostly to go over Krys. Straight up, I hate his slot. I dislike how people are writing him off as obv-town because of Bardull's gambit when he clearly stated that he was already crumbing his role (vaguely as **** though) so that Inferno wouldn't shoot him, I don't see it as anything but null. I don't like how he just hops around on wagons, follows the popular town consensus rather than do anything on his own, then straight up says hes done more than my slot. I don't like his coasting, I don't like his jump on Kevinms wagon (here), I hate his play toDay, etc etc.

Why this slot bothers me so much is because I can't pin him to dumb town or scum. DH did push him a little D1, but dropped him really fast. He's constantly called attention to his reaction to Bardull so that people would get a town read on him. Ugliest one is when he responds to Mr. Lynch here.

But most people have him as town, so it throws my own read on him off. Am I really not seeing something that should blatantly have him as town? Or is his gambit reaction all he has going for him?

 

[JTB]

I'll do more in the morning, but with regards to me asking if fromarsh was kirk, I went over that several times. When I posted my suspicion of indyToed, it directly revolved around Toed investigating fromarsh and getting information that confirmed he was kirk. Prior to posting that, I wanted to make sure I was correct in that fromarsh was indeed kirk, otherwise it would've meant nothing if he was another role.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

Please go by your own reads. Toad has whiteknighted literally everyone we want dead but you don't see us completely yielding.

JTB, if we were to put todays play into your hands, what would go down? Who would be lynched? Who would hammer? Who would vote inferno to be vigged by him? WOULD anyone be vigged?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also said I wasn't revealing new mason partner, I will now.

Kryz was my pick and I'm pretty sure he is town at this point.

 

[Krystedez]

I read on and off today, mostly to go over Krys. Straight up, I hate his slot. I dislike how people are writing him off as obv-town because of Bardull's gambit when he clearly stated that he was already crumbing his role (vaguely as **** though) so that Inferno wouldn't shoot him, I don't see it as anything but null. I don't like how he just hops around on wagons, follows the popular town consensus rather than do anything on his own, then straight up says hes done more than my slot. I don't like his coasting, I don't like his jump on Kevinms wagon (here), I hate his play toDay, etc etc.

Why this slot bothers me so much is because I can't pin him to dumb town or scum. DH did push him a little D1, but dropped him really fast. He's constantly called attention to his reaction to Bardull so that people would get a town read on him. Ugliest one is when he responds to Mr. Lynch here.

But most people have him as town, so it throws my own read on him off. Am I really not seeing something that should blatantly have him as town? Or is his gambit reaction all he has going for him?

So you ignore most of my other reads for the day and cherry pick ugly posts?

Kay that makes total sense.

Being wrong on certain reads doesn't make me scummy, and I have had my own particular reads. If you noticed my read list earlier a couple Days ago. Raziek responded to that as well.

So which is it, am I hopping wagons back and forth or am I following town consensus? I can't be doing both.

Why don't you tell me, if I was scum, what would be the appropriate action atm, hm? Lynch me? I'm not self-voting myself to make people like you avoid attempting to hold a single read most of game besides trying to muddy up old affairs. If you want me dead, JTB, it's on your head to find who is gunna hammer me to die with me.

 

[Krystedez]

And I will be the first to admit that my jump to Kev's wagon was ****. I really wish we had killed ZV at the moment because he is completely useless right now. I really expected much more from him late game but it appears as though that is just a miracle that will never happen.

 

[Inferno3044]

Im going for a ZV lynch. People can say what they want. He's by far the best play today.

 

[Krystedez]

He's been prodded and hasn't appeared yet.

 

[El ZV]

Got the prod

Sorry for being so gone everyone, haven't been able to post at work, which is normally where I play the most of my mafia. Was just finishing up a 5 month long project this week.

 

[El ZV]

wtf I'm still top 5 posts lol

 

[frozenmarsh751]

chibo deadline is in 2 days. we are currently of the opinion that you should vote inferno cuz you dont deserve to live. how do you feel about this?

 

[JTB]

Ugh, this is ****ing stupid. I didn't realize deadline was in two days, so I was just working on this game on and off. Then when I see the deadline, I come home from work to find out my internet got ****ed by att. I don't know when it will be back, but I can't make the big post I've been planning to make without a computer. I'll just have to make a paraphrased one, but won't look great without quotes to back it up.

I can still see toed as Indy. There was a quote he made D1 about ryker, something along the lines of he is going to always appear as town regardless of alignment, but will make tiny little slips as scum that have to be exploited to catch him. I took the samemindset when.reading Toed. He has kept up a pretty towny game, but there are several instances which make me doubt him.

1) His gambit on fromarsh

I already talked about this yesterday, but as toed pointed out, fro marsh has no idea that his investigation was limited, therefore his reaction was legitimate. I thought about this a lot and realized this doesn't make sense as well. His argument for fro marsh town was that he didn't freak out, kept on scum hunting, and got pissed at the sheeps that kept questioning him. This is still an awful town read because in order for it to be true, you would have to assume that scumfromarsh would freak out and stop scum hunting (I guess he would still get pissed at the sheep in the town). In addition to this, the way the gambit was presented was not the way a cop would claim a guilty on a slot and I'm sure if I could recognize that at the time, two players much better than me would definitely do so.

tl;dr toeds gambit on fromarsh was fake, despite the slot presenting it as illegitimate

I have two more parts I have to cover, but I need to check up stuff and I rather post this early and not.lose it

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Deadline tomarrow.

Vote: El ZV

 

[Inferno3044]

Vote: El ZV

 

[Inferno3044]

Best play today. We can make a new plan based off what happens the next day.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Get those votes off.

Listen up, me and FroMar both want JTB. He's been indy pretty obviously.
We're getting JTB today.
If it's not over then;
Tomorrow we NEED to kill FroMar, because if he's in a 1v3 situation he can solo alpha strike. We simply cannot risk that.

At that point, it's 3 of ZV/Inferno/Kryst/Ruy. With Inferno and Kryst AND ZV town, YOU LYNCH RUY. THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE. I'm back in a few.

 

[Overswarm]

Krys (1) - JTB,
FrozenMarsh751 (1) - Make It Rain!,
JTB (2) - Frozenmarsh751, Frozenmarsh751,
El ZV (2) - Red Ryu, Inferno3044,

Not voting: Krystedez, El Zv,
WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[Make it Rain!]

Vote: JTB

lasdasd

 

[JTB]

Real talk, from scum to obvtown to Indy

 

[Overswarm]

Krys (1) - JTB,
JTB (3) - Frozenmarsh751, Frozenmarsh751, Make It Rain!,
El ZV (2) - Red Ryu, Inferno3044,

Not voting: Krystedez, El Zv,
WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[JTB]

vote make it rain

 

[Overswarm]

JTB (3) - Frozenmarsh751, Frozenmarsh751, Make It Rain!,
El ZV (2) - Red Ryu, Inferno3044,
Make It Rain! (1) - JTB

Not voting: Krystedez, El Zv,
WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Get those votes off.

Listen up, me and FroMar both want JTB. He's been indy pretty obviously.
We're getting JTB today.
If it's not over then;
Tomorrow we NEED to kill FroMar, because if he's in a 1v3 situation he can solo alpha strike. We simply cannot risk that.

At that point, it's 3 of ZV/Inferno/Kryst/Ruy. With Inferno and Kryst AND ZV town, YOU LYNCH RUY. THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE. I'm back in a few.

Shut the hell up.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Inferno, if he flips town do not shoot me, if he does I'll leave the choice in your hands.

Vote: JTB

 

[Overswarm]

JTB (4) - Frozenmarsh751, Frozenmarsh751, Make It Rain!, Red Ryu,
El ZV (2) - Inferno3044,
Make It Rain! (1) - JTB

Not voting: Krystedez, El Zv,
WIth 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is Friday, August 3rd, 3:00 p.m. EST

 

[JTB]

Sigh

This game was too hard with my role alone after d1

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If Inferno does shoot me/I die, know that lynching Toad and El ZV should be a priotity, Do not deviate from this.