Online (SheerMadness) vs Console (Darth Rancorous)

[Smasherx74]

Never heard of either of those people. Tell them to play me. =]

Were do you live? Got be on east coast because ill go too depending how far up north you are.

 

[malva00]

lol I beat all the online players the moment I played online

online is just a warm up to play real console pros like alancitu XD

 

[Smasherx74]

lol I beat all the online players the moment I played online

Oh ya, i heard some history about you and kaillera and how you destroyed cHaos and masterfragen or something from DarKLinK a while back ago. Thats true?

 

[SheerMadness]

lol I beat all the online players the moment I played online

online is just a warm up to play real console pros like alancitu XD

There are always rare exceptions to rules. You were one of them. Alancitu probably is too.

Plus in your case online ssb was really new when you started playing so the "online veterans" didn't really have a long time to create a big skill gap like we have now.

I'm not saying you wouldn't beat the top online players today if you still hadn't played online because you probably would. Like I said you're one of the exceptions. But you can't deny the online skill gap is a hell of a lot higher now than when you started.

EDIT: I'm in Florida, smasher. And I meant to tell them to p2p me.

 

[Smasherx74]

EDIT: I'm in Florida, smasher. And I meant to tell them to p2p me.

Ohhhhhh... lol

 

[malva00]

Everyone knows the only reason this skill gap exists is because of online n00bs watching Isai console vids jk

 

[Smasherx74]

Everyone knows the only reason this skill gap exists is because of online n00bs watching Isai console vids jk

Actually back in 07 and 08 I use to watch your youtube videos all the time and they helped.

 

[Deleted member]

You're not gonna find someone in North America, who has never played online extensively, thats going to beat any of the top online players.

Unless that top online player uses keyboard or something different than a n64 controller.

Alancitu is probably the only pure console player I can think of that could take down top online players. Malt fox might be able to go even. But in North America I can't think of anyone...

Anyway s2j, you're a product of online play yourself. And don't tell me you're not because I remember when you were a huge noob online (most of were ****ing noobs back then) and watching your progress mainly from playing online.

trigger .


i think he'd mess u up IMO

 

[NixxxoN]

I bet there are a lot of good pure console players and they would do well online given some adapting time... All you need is a group of competitive friends who always want to beat and some of them being talented at smash or those kind of games.

 

[killa k]

I don't get why some guys try to shun online play but do it anyway lol...

 

[Smasherx74]

fav topic, 5 stars 4 trollz


Also, Why do you people care whos better online and on console WE ALL KNOW i could easily 5 stock anyone with 1 hand offline and online using someone i never use like DK or Samus. and s2j reminds me of tigerbombz.

 

[SheerMadness]

If by mess me up you mean take some games off me, I'm sure he probably could.

But I'm pretty sure I'd have the advantage since I've played a million Pikachu's like his and he's played no Yoshi's like mine.

 

[T1g3rbombz]

If by mess me up you mean take some games off me, I'm sure he probably could.

But I'm pretty sure I'd have the advantage since I've played a million Pikachu's like his and he's played no Yoshi's like mine.

Wrong again...I have 3 friends that will destroy alot of the top folks and they dont play online. And trigger will definitely pwn you and yes he has played good yoshis. He plays me

and why are ppl trying to sound like me...scrubs

 

[SheerMadness]

Of course you think your friend would pwn me, he's your friend.

Doesn't matter anyway cause I'm not going to cali anytime soon so we'll never know.

 

[Darth Rancorous]

Wrong again...I have 3 friends that will destroy alot of the top folks and they dont play online. And trigger will definitely pwn you and yes he has played good yoshis. He plays me

and why are ppl trying to sound like me...scrubs

U talkin bout the same friends I pwned at the last sf tourney u guys were at? Lol

 

[T1g3rbombz]

U talkin bout the same friends I pwned at the last sf tourney u guys were at? Lol

ahaha nope! the guy u beat doesnt even play..hes a halo pro. You didnt beat the other guy and i have 2 other homies that are solid and will pwn you and everyone else.

 

[ballin4life]

But how do they do against the great Tigerbombz?

 

[Darth Rancorous]

Oh, ish. I gotta play them some time then lol

 

[MiketheMike]

But how do they do against the great Tigerbombz?

Thats how

 

[Darth Rancorous]

i don't think there's a huge skill gap between people who play mostly online and people who play mostly (or only) console. i would say online players have a slight advantage, but nothing to cry over

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

well it depends how you look at it, for the 64 community it's vital that you get online experience because there isn't much people that play on console around you most of the time, but for brawl it's not so bad to play only on console because everyone plays that game and the online sucks.

 

[MattNF]

well it depends how you look at it, for the 64 community it's vital that you get online experience because there isn't much people that play on console around you most of the time, but for brawl it's not so bad to play only on console because everyone plays that game and the online sucks.

Brawl console sucks too.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

There's not. If given 1-2 hours of adapting to online lag, I'm sure many (good) console players could beat players that play online extensively.

 

[SheerMadness]

There's not. If given 1-2 hours of adapting to online lag, I'm sure many (good) console players could beat players that play online extensively.

Depending on what your definition of good is...

I seriously doubt it.

 

[Battlecow]

Maybe some sole-console players are 1337, but I know a ****load of people who've been playing the game more or less constantly on-console since it came out and are still scrubs. I've been playing seriously for less than 2 years, and I can 2-3 stock all of them. I guarantee you that if they'd been playing online for that long, they'd be much, much, much better. Then again, their experience is based off of playing only A) complete nubs and B) the same 6-7 reasonably good people. Watching them play is almost sad; they've gotten themselves into ruts where they use the same tired techniques they've been using for 11 years, insist that they're the best, and cry "cheap" when defeated.

If they'd played in, say, tigerbombz's posse of smashers, they'd probably be much better, because they would have played with someone who'd played online, and they could have imitated and replicated the advanced techniques and combos that he showed them.

 

[DMoogle]

There's not. If given 1-2 hours of adapting to online lag, I'm sure many (good) console players could beat players that play online extensively.

Depending on what your definition of good is...

I seriously doubt it.

It definitely depends on the definition of good. If on a strict relative % basis, there's no way.

E.g. take the top 10% console players vs. top 10% online players, the majority of the online players would beat the majority of the console players.

 

[T1g3rbombz]

Maybe some sole-console players are 1337, but I know a ****load of people who've been playing the game more or less constantly on-console since it came out and are still scrubs. I've been playing seriously for less than 2 years, and I can 2-3 stock all of them. I guarantee you that if they'd been playing online for that long, they'd be much, much, much better. Then again, their experience is based off of playing only A) complete nubs and B) the same 6-7 reasonably good people. Watching them play is almost sad; they've gotten themselves into ruts where they use the same tired techniques they've been using for 11 years, insist that they're the best, and cry "cheap" when defeated.

If they'd played in, say, tigerbombz's posse of smashers, they'd probably be much better, because they would have played with someone who'd played online, and they could have imitated and replicated the advanced techniques and combos that he showed them.

yea....my crewsauce is imba l33t. They sharigann mangekyou that shi.t.

 

[ballin4life]

It obviously depends on who you play with. But playing good people on console > playing good people online if you want to get better.

And yes playing a variety of players matters too.

 

[asianaussie]

On a side note, doesn't mangekyou backfire with prolonged use and cause the eyes to bleed?

 

[Darth Rancorous]

im pretty sure the top 10% console players would **** the top 10% online players.

and i think statements like "if u wanna get better, play online" is somewhat false. sure, u get more exposure to different play styles but, online is just an imitation of what goes on on console. all those combos u see online, someone else developed them on console. console is where most (if not all) ATs were discovered.

and yes, mangekyou can be dangerous if used for a long period of time. but ur not gonna sit around and play smash all day, are u? lol

 

[malva00]

You kids can talk about ****** all you want, but just remember it has to be done on console.

 

[SheerMadness]

im pretty sure the top 10% console players would **** the top 10% online players.

The top 10% of console players who haven't played online would get DESTROYED by the top 10% of online players.

Unless you're counting people who have consistently been playing online for years console players just because they say console is better.

Like s2j who all of a sudden thinks online ssb64 and everyone who plays it is gay despite the fact that he only got good from playing online.

 

[DMoogle]

im pretty sure the top 10% console players would **** the top 10% online players.

You do realize that there are WAY more console players than Smash 64 online players, forum posters, and youtube video watchers combined, right? The vast majority of them are relative newbs who don't even know about Z canceling.

 

[malva00]

why you guys talking so much about who will beat who

only thing that matters is what happens when two people actually play

or maybe you guys are talking so much cuz you will never get to play other people

you guys should be training to become better and worry about yourselves

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

For Cash, as said, depends on the definition of Good.
For Darth Rancorous, have you even tried playing online vs any of the top 10% of players?

What are the top players for offline that you would consider? Remember that these are the only offline players. what member of the top 10 percent has actually not played online before?

You do realize that there are WAY more console players than Smash 64 online players, forum posters, and youtube video watchers combined, right? The vast majority of them are relative newbs who don't even know about Z canceling.

do you mean console players still? Or players that don't play smash 64 anymore. By the first definition: probably no. By the 2nd one, yes.

Of course overall there have been more offline players since virtually everyone who has played smash 64 online owned the game on the n64 or played it at someone's house.

 

[malva00]

shouldn't this topic be closed?

SheerMadness vs Darth Rancorous already happened

and there aren't even any vids unless I missed them

you online kids should take whatever nonsense you're talking about to the social thread or something

 

[SheerMadness]

Whats wrong with this thread?

Most people are discussing their opinions in a flame free/semi intelligent manner, so why should it be closed?

Online > console IMO comes down to availability of top players.

Darth you live in close proximity to top players such as malva, tigerbombz, and johnny right? But how often do you even play them? Not that often I assume?

If you got online you could be playing against players on or close to the same skill level as tigerbombz and johnny every night. So you have the people online playing vs top players like that every night if they want vs you playing top players maybe a couple times a month?

I think if you look at it that way it's not hard to see why I think online > console.

 

[malva00]

Yeah Darth why don't you play online you'll get better faster since I doubt you have much variety on console

lol @ this sheermadness guy saying you can play players closse to johnny's skill level when those online kids have never even played him on console

 

[DMoogle]

shouldn't this topic be closed?

SheerMadness vs Darth Rancorous already happened

The discussion isn't unrelated to the original topic, and there hasn't been any flame wars. As long as it stays that way, the thread will remain open.

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

im pretty sure the top 10% console players would **** the top 10% online players.

and i think statements like "if u wanna get better, play online" is somewhat false. sure, u get more exposure to different play styles but, online is just an imitation of what goes on on console. all those combos u see online, someone else developed them on console. console is where most (if not all) ATs were discovered.

and yes, mangekyou can be dangerous if used for a long period of time. but ur not gonna sit around and play smash all day, are u? lol

Complete and utter rubbish. Online is more or less EXACTLY THE SAME as console. If you play one you'll get better at the other.
Playing online means you can actually play against good players without having to travel, which is a huge advantage. You'll be able to play people your level all the time if there are none that live near you, which means you will improve much faster.

Also, the argument of most ATs being discovered on console is pretty much invalid as console has been around much longer than the online emulator, and FAR more people play on console.

Also, I think that if the entire population of smashers who play online have a crew battle against the entire population of people who don't, online would win by MILES.



Another argument for online users: would anyone be ANYWHERE NEAR as good at other games, such as COD MW2, if not for online play? Of course they wouldn't. How can you not see that the same applies for smash?