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Online Play Tier
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Lord Viper
SS Rank
So how many tourneys that matter on online play, or better yet, how many people are playing very competivley online?
Also if it's an online tier list, Wolf would **** the whole cast.
Also if it's an online tier list, Wolf would **** the whole cast.
Snowstalker
Smash Ace
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Agreed, Wolf wouldn't let other characters do that, Star Fox.
POKE40
Smash Lord
true... ic climbers is different timing to cg with online ):
There are a lot of online tournies going on, especially with allisbrawl. Just because they're held online doesnt mean they don't matterSo how many tourneys that matter on online play, or better yet, how many people are playing very competivley online?
Also if it's an online tier list, Wolf would **** the whole cast.
She-Geek
Smash Cadet
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ehh the lag is so terrible everybody johns like crazy. The tier list for offline play is shifting so much anyway, trying to iron out one for online where the internet speeds vary would be insane. If you wanna go for it power to ya, but I don't know if there's a lot of people that wanna jump on that bandwagon right now.
Kennahh
Smash Apprentice
Fox is pretty good online. Top tier material.
thatsyournamedude
Smash Rookie
its really disappointing that they didn't do a better job with online play. For a game that is dissected down to a single frame, any lag during online play is unacceptable, it throws the whole game off. I know its been said before, but it bears repeating.
Iamthemovie
Smash Journeyman
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I think this is one of the main reason why the buffer window is so high in this game.
Flamingo
Smash Lord
Yes it does. Quit fooling yourself. Everything wifi-related is noobish, blasphemous and overall pointless.
A change in the tier list for wifi of all things... ROFL. That is all.
Flamingo
Smash Lord
A necessary double post.
PS. Wifi+Lag+Pikachu+Lag+DownB+Lag=Win
PS. Wifi+Lag+Pikachu+Lag+DownB+Lag=Win
That is totally true.
Myst007_teh_newb
Smash Journeyman
You want a tier list for online play? Fine.
Top Tier:
- IRL Tourneys
Low Tier:
- Excellent WiFi connection
Lame Tier:
- Any other Wifi connection
Bottom Tier:
- Captain Falcon
Top Tier:
- IRL Tourneys
Low Tier:
- Excellent WiFi connection
Lame Tier:
- Any other Wifi connection
Bottom Tier:
- Captain Falcon
King Funk
Int. Croc. Alligator
Biggest boosts in online play:
Ike
Pikachu
Marth
Fox
Biggest nerfs in online play:
Ness/Lucas
Diddy Kong
Falco
Ice Climbers
Ike
Pikachu
Marth
Fox
Biggest nerfs in online play:
Ness/Lucas
Diddy Kong
Falco
Ice Climbers
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
Marth doesn't get a boost at all. Spacing and weaving is near impossible to do right.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Are you honestly kidding me? Marth and Jigglypuff are in the biggest nerfs, but Ness and Lucas should be taken out of there unless its extreme lag. You can still control PKT2 fine with lag.
Exactly. He's actually one of the worst in minor lag. Mainly because it messes his aerial game so bad.
Lord Viper
SS Rank
All I said was do they matter. The SBR don't look into the online tourneys very much. Online tourney's, since you don't win prize money most of the time, it's not even worth the trouble doing. But who's to say that I'm right, I could be wrong.
Comments in Bold.
Also, does no one else think that Wolf ***** hard online.
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
It's not johning, it's the thruth.
A good Marth player keeps their opponents at optimal range to stay safe when attacking. Online, the lag messes up your timing and spacing very badly.
A good Marth player keeps their opponents at optimal range to stay safe when attacking. Online, the lag messes up your timing and spacing very badly.
MyCurse4Life
Smash Ace
They should make a online teir list with mostly laggying going on.
Freezewish
Smash Ace
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God tier: Wolf Snake Ike
Top Tier: MK DK Pika Fox
Seriously wifi is BS =/
Top Tier: MK DK Pika Fox
Seriously wifi is BS =/
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
^ I agree a lot with this one. Sure, everyone gets some lashback somewhere, but now that I can't powershield Wolf's Blaster and I have to resort to losing my full shield and hitting Nayru's, the fight is pretty much heavily in his advantage.
Zelda should be mid still. I cannot recover with her on WiFi, my smash attack speed feels a bit dulled, and I can't land lightning kicks, but man, is it easy to screw people up with jab and Fsmash.
Zelda should be mid still. I cannot recover with her on WiFi, my smash attack speed feels a bit dulled, and I can't land lightning kicks, but man, is it easy to screw people up with jab and Fsmash.
Yes, Pika gets a very nice boost online. His Thunder attack is very effective and his down smash is harder to SDI out of making it a very good damage racking move or even KO-move.
And Ike with his very laggy but powerful attacks also do well online, since the lag matters less there.
And Ike with his very laggy but powerful attacks also do well online, since the lag matters less there.
brinboy789
Smash Champion
MK is pretty nerfedo nline, its extremely hard to string attacks together. snake gets kind of a buff, i guess
§leepy God
Smash Master
I agree with your chracter list so far.
Why I no longer play online Brawl but offline one instead because a lot of people take an online match too serouisly and clam they are better than you when they pick a spammer that's good online. That's why I say take it offline and prove it, lol.
Yea, it's kind of hard to get some good combos going.
That's very true too.
Negi-Kun
Smash Lord
Ike, anyone?
This^ WiFi isn't really all that tier worthy.
ZHMT
Smash Lord
Some characters that rely on prediction anyways are BETTER online, however that doesnt make them good. In example Ganondorf relies on prediction to win. If he uses a fsmash and you try to interrupt it with a jab from Falco, the lag may cause that fsmash to hit before your jab because of input delay. Slow, strong characters are better on wifi, imho. Im talking like 20 frame lag here. Characters with spammable kill moves are all playable on wifi and characters that are reliant on timing are thrown off. High level Metaknights are based on timing, however his great kill moves keep him top tier on wifi. Snake gets a large boost because spacing against his hitboxes is just plain unfair.
Mr Gnw is helped on wifi, because lag makes his bair almost unpunishable. He has 3 very great kill moves. Olimar is also decent on wifi for the same reasons. Ice climbers are nerfed for obvious reasons, along with Marth and Diddy Kong.
Btw Sonic is a ***** on wifi. I seriously dont care.
All of this is assuming (non-blue connections), which I never have so yeah...and they still suck ^^
Mr Gnw is helped on wifi, because lag makes his bair almost unpunishable. He has 3 very great kill moves. Olimar is also decent on wifi for the same reasons. Ice climbers are nerfed for obvious reasons, along with Marth and Diddy Kong.
Btw Sonic is a ***** on wifi. I seriously dont care.
All of this is assuming (non-blue connections), which I never have so yeah...and they still suck ^^
Freezewish
Smash Ace
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Dont forget camping with ROB and spot-dodge, dsmash spam. Input delay+ROB's aerials =uber.
OldGeezer666
Smash Journeyman
Captain Falcon Quote:Yesz
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
Not really. It's good for practicing certain things, but you can't judge skill online.
Skill... right, that's what I mean.