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theeboredone

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Zoro vs Luffy would be such a hyped fight. Granted Luffy would win, because he's the main character, but it would be great to see that Zoro was one of Luffy's toughest opponents he ever faced. They've always flirted with that idea (Alabasta, and that filler arc where Zoro becomes hypnotized).

But yea, I seriously hope we don't have Luffy hardcore ****** everybody with kamehameha wtf ****.

And what filler episode did Zoro display conqueror Haki? o_O

Also before people were arguing who was stronger zoro or sanji and i dont see a argument for sanji being stronger at all. Zoro is always the guy facing the #2 man of the enemy's crew, Zoro's dream is to be the strongest swordsman sanji's is to see the big blue. this i feel is the defining difference between these two and the reason zoro will always be the stronger of the two

Also i hope robin learned attack haki she would be so broken if she can snap spines in half with haki
I think the arguments became more heightened after the arc where they went to rescue Robin. The fact that Kaku and Wolf Guy's strength difference was by a hair started the argument that Sanji could beat if not come really close to beating Zoro. I do think Sanji could give Zoro a good fight, but c'mon...it's legs vs swords...
 

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Also before people were arguing who was stronger zoro or sanji and i dont see a argument for sanji being stronger at all. Zoro is always the guy facing the #2 man of the enemy's crew, Zoro's dream is to be the strongest swordsman sanji's is to see the big blue.
edit: i am also getting tired of the main character always getting so much stronger then the rest of his crew, i hope the time jump has made zoro strong enough to be close to luffy level again.

You mean "ALL BLUE"
Big Blue is the from F-zero lol

& btw i think this was a miss translation
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/56751021/15

Zoro said "I cut him"

Sanji Said "I broke his neck"

I think what should of been said was

Zoro I cut him FIRST
Sanhi I broke his neck FIRST

because if you think about it its sounds pretty stupid for them just to announce what they did
 

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I can't to see how strong Blackbeard and somewhat Buggy has gotten.
That's one of my few gripes with One Piece: that Buggy's been so ****ty throughout the series thus far. I always liked him and his power is pretty cool, you'd think one could/should utilize it well enough to actually be formidable considering how much older he is than, say, Luffy.
He wouldn't lose that much comic-relief capacity imo...
 

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So after going back and getting some clear cut info, I've come to the conclusion of what haki traits the big three of SH will have.

Luffy: Observation, Armanents, and Conqueror. He's the main character, and he will rightfully get all of these. Observation to make him a better fighter in predicting attack patterns and such. Armanents to damage "logia" DF users, and increasing his power (as already see), and Conqueror, which has already been displayed.

Zoro: Observation, Armanents, and Conqueror: I believe Zoro stated that he heard the "breath of all things" during his fight with Mr. 1. That's a clear way to Observation. He always seems to be in tune with nature and his blades. He will naturally have armanents to fight logia users as well and enhance his power. Conqueror, mainly because he's one of the Super Novas, has that killer intent, and Rayleigh mentioned something along the lines of that one needs to get fame, they have the power.

Sanji: He'll have the first two, but I don't see him with conqueror. One reason being that he isn't known to the world, let alone his bounty picture isn't even him LOL. It's a gag Oda has had him all the time, and Sanji isn't even a SN (Super Nova). So yea...I'm sure, Oda plans to keep Sanji as the guy no one knows about rofl.
 

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Sure, Zoro is great at observation, but I don't see the point of giving him Observation haki. Luffy has it, no doubt other pirates will, too. Give all 3 to everybody and it just cancels itself out.

In a lot of Zoro's fights, he's had to overcome some remarkable obstacle to win. Case in point: when he beat Mr. 1.
 

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How does it cancel itself out? Do you even know how Haki works? Everyone is born with Haki, it just doesn't awaken in everyone, and if it does, people tend to float towards a certain color more than the other. Zoro may not be the brightest bulb when it comes to navigating in towns and taking directions, but he is VERY GOOD when it comes to observing fights, and the whole aspect surrounding it. I don't wanna say Zoro "analyzes" his opponents, but like Luffy, he learns on the fly during fights and learns to counter appropriately. I'm not saying Zoro will be a master of Observation Haki, but he will have enough of it to help him in battle.

Color of Arm and Observation can be obtained through training, while Conqueror is only given to a select few. I just think it's natural for a swordsman to know the Color of Observation in comparison to Armanents.

Edit: You can even make the case for guys like Enel and his four skypedia menions that they also have Color of Observation. If I recall correctly, all of them can predict attacks, while Enel could also hear everything on the island. Granted, this was because of his DF power, but it is what it is. It wasn't as clearly developed as some others would have it, but yea z.z...
 

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Edit: You can even make the case for guys like Enel and his four skypedia menions that they also have Color of Observation. If I recall correctly, all of them can predict attacks, while Enel could also hear everything on the island. Granted, this was because of his DF power, but it is what it is. It wasn't as clearly developed as some others would have it, but yea z.z...
Rayleigh confirms in Chapter 597 that the Color of Observation is called "mantra" on Skypeia. So yes, they had it.
 

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Didn't Zoro always put his white sword (sword with the white hold) between his teeth?
It's not the same now.

http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/56751021/15

Edit: Lol, wait. It suddenly turns white in the close up....
thats some serious mind games HAHA

I cant wait to See how much Black Beards beard has grown
thats gonna be epic because when he was first introduced in Jaya he had very little facial hair & then when we saw him later on there was much more hair then b4
 

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Luffy: Observation, Armanents, and Conqueror. He's the main character, and he will rightfully get all of these.
He already has Conqueror.
He used observation with Mihawk at Marineford, right?



Did he use armaments when he hit the Pacifista?
 

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didn't silver say that luffy has learned how to use all the different types of haki.

Also is there a new chapter this week/anyone know when the next one week break is?
 

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wow, yeah, i forgot about blackbeard... he was already a MONSTER before the timeskip

he's probably at yonkou/admiral level right now.
 

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I'd say even higher than that, honestly. I think he was at admiral level pre-timeskip and was just hiding his strength...his
surprise takedown of whitebeard
really pushed him over the edge into that territory. There's a reason why the admirals haven't bothered to interfere in the affairs of the yonkou, I think arguably that individually they're still more powerful than the admirals.
 

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>_> I'm trying to figure out what the heck he does under a giant blanket to steal one's powers. Rated NC-17 stuff probably.

In any case, I guess it raises the question if BB will be the final fight in the manga or will they stick with some elite pro Marine guy. I mean, how many here would consider BB the main villain right now?
 

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I'd say that the admirals are just gonna be amongst the uber powerful battles that the crew must handle. And Akainu (I think I got his name right?) will be taken down/defeated by Luffy personally for the sake of Ace.

Blackbeard seems like a perfect final battle though, and the Straw Hat gang gets to do battle with the rest of Blackbeard's crew too. Not sure what could happen though. Anything is possible. So awesome!
 

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Blackbeard & the Uglies will most certainly be the final fight. I am of the opinion Doflamingo will be the penultimate fight.

I also think the Marines will split at some point: Aoikiji, Smoker, Coby & Helmeppo and the other more morally conscious marines will break off. Calling it now.
 

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Yea, I can't see the Marines being disbanded or completely destroyed. The good guys will retain the power, while the bad or greedy ones will be thrown away in battle.

Lol, Smoker is gonna get owned in one punch now. Zoro still loses to Tashigi though. GG.
 

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spoylarz ahoy

Brook joins up, and as usual asks Nami to show her panties and got kicked.
Chopper came from the ship to see Zoro/Sanji/Luffy, and now the whole crew are gathered.
Sanji spews fountain of noseblood upon seeing Nami and Robin

Marine ships came attacking, but Hancock appears in their way.
She asks who dares put marine ships in her path, and saves Luffy
Usopp and Sanji sees her using binoculars. Sanji got stoned just by looking at her through the binoculars lol

Luffy tells Sanji about her, and he cries in jealousy
Herculesun came with Usopp as well to this island, and he also blocks the marines' path with giant beetles.
The scholars of Weatheria created rain in the Marines path to stop them as well
They were told not to use lightning because it'll hit the citizens.

The bird that Chopper was with came to greet Luffy (earlier in the chapter before they got on the ship)

Apparently Kamabakka okamas also helped stop the marines.

Luffy's order at the end.
"Alright guys!! I have a lot I have to tell you!! But for now!!! Thanks for following with my selfish plan for 2 years!!"
Raises the sails
"Set sail!!! Fishman island, here we come!!"

The end. Sorry about typos.
Perona just shows up for farewell. Came with Zoro probably.
Everyone who were with a Strawhat came to help

Hancock's awesome.

...

more from T

The revolutionaries didn't show up. I assume it's because HQ is near by

(in question about Perona)

Perona's wearing different outfit now, and looks cuter.
She has a Moria tatoo on her left arm.

When she showed up to stop the marines using her negative hollows, Sanji smelt her scent
Sanji: (I smell) Real woman!
Perona: ....what kind of illness do you have?

She was interacting with Zoro rather aggressively, since he owes it to her for bringing him here.

Also, Sanji didn't become stoned because of Hancock's fruit, he simply got stoned from looking at her beauty lol
He snapped out of it right away
When he heard Luffy was on Amazon Lily, the island of Woman, he went nuts in jealousy
 

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great chapter. the start of something great!

gotta love oda's simple science. first dense clouds that act like an ocean, now sails moved by ocean currents? nice hahah
 

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Lol at Sanji's heart being broken from the ******. I thought it would have been funnier if Luffy mentioned something along the lines of Hancock wanting to marry him to Sanji LOL.
 

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☯ This chapter made me happy
Perona
. <3


☯ Very excited for next week's chapter.
 
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