Ryusuta
Smash Master
Inb4100%. 
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Official Yoshi CG List ""FRAME DATA INFO CHANGED A FEW THINGS"" (Updated on 9/29/09)
- Thread starter SOVAman
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SOVAman
Smash Hero
like a good 95% I rarely mess up.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
Thats not proof because I saw him do it wrong and I say exactly how he did it worng
and if you want evidence if pit can or can not be CGed try it your self
SOVAman
Smash Hero
So I am not the only one that can CG DK
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, if it's that high, I would guess that it is doable. There isn't a 100% surefire way to determine if it's guaranteed or not without frame data, but I think getting it 95% of the time on good DKs is pretty good evidence in its favor.
Poltergust
Smash Master
There's only so much you can do with Training Mode with a computer trying to break out. There's no reliable way for me to test it.
Airborne
Smash Lord
in-person or wifi?
Wifi, and I tested it in person with my cousin.
You can easily escape it, flip jump to second jump and your free. No problems what so ever.
chimpact
Smash Lord
Has anybody tried using the DR to CG?
Ryusuta
Smash Master
You are SOOOOooo going to get chewed out by lilb.
And no offense, but in this case, I would agree with him. This sort of thing needs to be tested OFFLINE.
Ryusuta
Smash Master
...Go to your room.
Ryusuta
Smash Master
My mistake. Sorry.
Sharky
Smash Master
he also said he tested it offline there, Orion. =/
Ryusuta
Smash Master
My bad. Whoops.
Lmao, yeah what he said.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
Alrighty I have not been on in a while do to Christmas so I am going to comment on everything I read
Chaco: wifi wtf?!!??!! and you can grab ZSS before she can use the down B I thought we have proven that?
Poltergust: no one told you that you have no choice but to test in training mode get a friend/crew mate/test at a tourney/theres most likly more too so test it.
Sir Orion: Is right you must test offline Chaco
On the ZSS thing I know was tested a while ago
Chaco: wifi wtf?!!??!! and you can grab ZSS before she can use the down B I thought we have proven that?
Poltergust: no one told you that you have no choice but to test in training mode get a friend/crew mate/test at a tourney/theres most likly more too so test it.
Sir Orion: Is right you must test offline Chaco
On the ZSS thing I know was tested a while ago
Does anyone read anymore.
Ryusuta
Smash Master
Do you? I already corrected myself. Quit acting like such a victim.
I was saying that to lil'b.Do you? I already corrected myself. Quit acting like such a victim.
I'm not acting like a victim, stop acting so butt hurt over it.
Ryusuta
Smash Master
NO U! And I'm keeping the television! You can have the kids!
Airborne
Smash Lord
yay gayness!.....wait.... well green ace told me of a PSEUDO CG that he does sometimes, involving eggs and grab-release or something like that, if any of you are looking for a fun way to catch your opponent off guard... =PHugs and kisses, ladies.
Now, back to how bad we gay lots of characters with our chaingrab.
Pseudo chaingrabs mean the opponent has a chance of getting out if they know what they're doing.While it would be a cool thing to discuss, it would be even better if you were talking about creating a chaingrab that doesn't just revolve around grabs. Creating instances where the opponent can get out isn't terribly productive, especially since people are figuring more how to get out of new techniques faster than they are created.
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
I didn't have time to search this stuff to see if it was already known, anyways:
up-throw has set knock back until about 50%(You cannot DI any direction)
B-throw and F-throw have set knock back until about 25%(you cannot Di it)
On heavy characters you have a longer animation but they escape it just as soon as anyone else would, because of this if you u-throw a character like snake or D3( if their damage is under 50%) they can hit you while you are still in your throwing animation.
Just thought I'd put that info out there.
up-throw has set knock back until about 50%(You cannot DI any direction)
B-throw and F-throw have set knock back until about 25%(you cannot Di it)
On heavy characters you have a longer animation but they escape it just as soon as anyone else would, because of this if you u-throw a character like snake or D3( if their damage is under 50%) they can hit you while you are still in your throwing animation.
Just thought I'd put that info out there.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
Thanks for the percents I kinda knew it was up to a certain percent but I didn't know exactly which precent thanks
SOVAman
Smash Hero
I will do Chaco sounds fun
bigman40
Smash Master
So I found the reason as to why grab breaks happen. When I was experimmenting with other stuff, I noticed that whenever a character did NOT have his/her feet solidly on the ground, they would break out of a grab in the air. And vice versa can be said for a ground break out. Yoshi is the exception to this by a little. Since characters are always in his mouth when grabbed, they don't have any ground to place their feet on. Therefore, they will always break out into the air. Some of you that noticed your opponents breaking on the ground even when yoshi grabbed them, is simply because the opponents did not make it to his mouth before the "break out" began.
So for the tl dr for you lazy folks, Yoshi will always have opponents air break UNLESS they input enough buttons before they get into his mouth (where they lose any solid ground).
So for the tl dr for you lazy folks, Yoshi will always have opponents air break UNLESS they input enough buttons before they get into his mouth (where they lose any solid ground).
Sharky
Smash Master
so then we really only have to worry about this at low to mid (depending on the person) percents, then. That's good to know, thanks for confirming this, Scatz. =)
on an unrelated note, when I saw tl;dr, I somehow thought "toon link;dragonic reverse." Is that bad? o.O
on an unrelated note, when I saw tl;dr, I somehow thought "toon link;dragonic reverse." Is that bad? o.O
bigman40
Smash Master
Lol no it's not xD
And if some people are skeptical about that, they can try this: Grab a giant character with anyone else. You'll notice that they break the grab immediately (when they have theuir feet on the ground). Now grab with Yoshi, and it's like Yoshi can grab them completely normal. (I <3 random fun) Yoshi's grab is basically the air grabs of every character xD
YoshiIslander77z
Smash Apprentice
is ti possible to get a sliding egg lay after cg?
Turinssbb
Smash Rookie
probably ^_^
Gindler
Smash Champion
Has anyone tested the CG on G&W? I've done it in a match where they G&W recovered high with his second jump and his Trampoline/parachute/whateveritis, and pivot caught him before he could land with the key, of course i didn't chew (so he wouldn't get upB back) and the CG seemed to work to the edge where i released him to his death. No clue if I've mentioned this before (might've and completely forgot, i do that alot), or if the guy even tried to dodge out of it, I just did it once since i rarely get to play GeeDubs.......
and yes it was in person, still preparing to get flamed though
and yes it was in person, still preparing to get flamed though
bigman40
Smash Master
Are you talking about catching him before he lands after using UpB and then letting him fall to his death like snake?