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Edit: Thank you for recognizing your supporters. It wasn't just me who pointed that out though. Glad you're back on track again
And the edit button worked, as I have just edited my post. I beleive it fears me after I ignored it to simply double post since recent encounters with problems. It wants attention, don't give it any? Maybe it works!
Always. Once things slow down here, and I can access each page without getting the 'timed out' message twelve times, I'll have a lot more to say. Good to know you've made the Edit button your *****, I've been working on it, too.
The way that their similarities out-match their differences among the many of them, there is nothing holding them back but that. I would like Midna, Ganon and maybe another Zelda character in Brawl before another Link but I would also feel like we would be getting "ripped-off" in a way. There are two Samus, they may be one character and are interchangable but none the less, two of the same character have been put in this elite cast. Two Links would be as diverse and visually unique just as well.
True, but the similarities between Doc and Mario and Pichu and Pikachu are what rule them out. And while you are right about the two Samus' they have the distinction of being very visually different. With any two Links the primary visual differences revolve around the animation style and age of the character, which could be said of Mario from SMB and Mario from SMG.
Thanks for listing the ages etc of the past Links, that actually clears some foggy corners up. I guess they should have a third Link because "the 14 year old Link is effectively synonymous with Teen Link." That could eliminate the argument on which Link was most often represented. Adult or Young has a thin line. I'm glad you brought up that the two terms (Young and Old) for the same character were made to sepperate the same Link and not just the characters various ages in general to the series. This is where the trouble arises. And I don't think there is an actual answer.
No prob. A few years back we had a topic in the Light House where we discussed these things to death, and someone had posted a list of quotes and in game information giving the ages of each Link. I wish it was still around, I could dig up more. Anyhow, I agree, my friend, there is no answer.
That and age differences aside, the fact that OoT Link is indeed tied to WW Link but is at the same time, ENTIRELY different in appearance and abilities, both in movement and equipment, that a CS version of a Link is required. Whether it be WW or HG, it would only be proper to have one more Link representing that side of the series while still, in a way, being connected to his counterpart. "Adult" TP Link is still a Link but again, other than him being the most recent version of Link,
rAt - "given the fact that whichever Link you insert here *inserting* (TP Link), he's going to effectively represent himself and only himself?"
But no, I don't know the answer either.
Good point. I suppose my arguements against CS Link aren't based on the fact that I think he'd be a poor represetative of the series, or Links in general, but given that we already have a Link, I can't seem to figure out why our Cell Shading representative needs to be Link.
Redundant is the key word in that quote. Having the various Links wouldn't taint the roster with clones or anything similar. But I see what you mean by having other characters first. As would almost anyone, but when the other characters are in, then the other Link would be the next character in line. And he would be just as unique as the last Challenger Approaching.
When it really comes down to it, having the two Links would either fit ingeniously into the Subspace Emissary or ruin it completely. I hope it all works out for the better. That means CSLinks in Brawl, and everyone is happy because no harm was done.
Bad reference. Robin? Oh my...
By the way, I sigged one of your quotes. It was in a Zelda thread too.
That is another good point about SE. I can just imagine the two Links confronting each other with looks of "WTF??" And I'd say you hit the nail right on the head; I don't see Cell-shaded Link making the roster worse, there is just so much I'd personally want to see first. Now that Olimar is in, if Falco and G&W return, everything else is icing on the cake for me. While I won't ever be on the edge of my seat for CS Link, I will certainly be happy for his fans if he gets in.
After all, we Zelda fans gotta stick together. Except Sheik fanboys.
On a side note, feel free to quote me any time; especially my obscure Star Wars refernces.
Touche.
Yes, a friend of mine pointed that out he other day. Good eye. I think you're right. That makes me wonder how the final boss fight of SE will play out.
Two things;
How about Sheik confirmed in the Dojo? Seems a mite more reliable to me.
a) the delay just means the game will rule just that much more.
I was already assuming we'd get at least two more characters in two more weeks. Then, once the game is out in Japan, I'm sure we'll see all the unlockables start popping up on the Dojo.
Yeah, I was thinking that maybe after you beat The ancient monister you will have one last fight against Master Hand and Crazy hand in Final destination, but with the Ancient minister's face in the background (Like covering half of it)
The King MUST return!
Wait, just because the spots are there doesn't mean they'll fill??? That doesn't make sense
Well he's right on something, The more you wait, the more you'll have fun with it.Rick88 said:
Sounds like the most logical reason as the delay is too short to add much, If anything is done, it would be some glitch fixing or some grammar stuff. But I doubt it, Possibly Supply and Demand as you said.Rick88 said:
Ah, I see what he meant now
.D&S is valid enough, i don't know about everywhere else, but the Wii went out of stock in Australia, it still is in a lot of places, same wiith the Wiimotes, so the price has actually gone UP from release, if they can do a similar deal with SSBB, they'll be able to stay $100 for ages.Ah, I see what he meant now
But yes supply and demand is likely. There are thousands of Wiis out there, I'm sure they'll want to have enough SSBB copies to go around. I've even heard rumors that Gamestop/EB game stores are going to start cutting off pre-orders.
Good idea, plus it's like the only popular G&W game that isn't in his moveset already, maybe they left it out on purpose??? *puts on tinfoil conspiracy hat*
All the Link's I think are supposed to be different people just with the same name.
Well that all depends on how they make Y/CS Link. He could just be another clone, and then yes, he would be another Link. But, if they gave him his own moveset there wouldn't be any kind of problem. With the amount of techniques and weapson that differ from game to game in the Zelda series, any number of Links could be different from one another. Sure they'd all share the title of "Link", but they don't necessarily have to be considered the same.
Yea, in most cases. There are the acceptions though, what with direct sequels.
Well that all depends on how they make Y/CS Link. He could just be another clone, and then yes, he would be another Link. But, if they gave him his own moveset there wouldn't be any kind of problem. With the amount of techniques and weapson that differ from game to game in the Zelda series, any number of Links could be different from one another. Sure they'd all share the title of "Link", but they don't necessarily have to be considered the same.
Yea, in most cases. There are the acceptions though, what with direct sequels.
couldn't be the immense piles of proof flying about, could it?Hmmm....I have a good feeling Ness is returning. I don't really know why...
if red alloy is cap fal, who on earth is the one with horns? seriously, dude, this proves nothing. at all. sorry.
well, apparently, the yellow alloy has the same falling animation as Mario or something like that so maybe the yellow alloy is Mario? Either way capt. Falcon is still more confirmed then Luigi. At least that original 12 statment of all oif them returning is looking mighty good right now.
I belive the Yellow Guy looks most like the little blue men in Metoes for DS, WHICH Sakurai had a par in making