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Yea. This standard release should be used at tourneys, then we should see the outliers people may have overlooked for sets to include for characters like wario, olimar, etc.
Locally we're running this here in a tournament on the 20th; we would have used it sooner, but we just didn't have events scheduled. I really would like to hear from people in other regions though.
I personally have each set on my Wii U tied to a custom color (custom set 1 -> color 1 and so on) just so it's easier to tell which one is which from a glance. "Oh, Fire Mario is 1313", and it looks visually nicer while selecting too instead of having everyone the same color. It is pretty easy to implement. (make all sets on a character on the 3DS, then tap L/R on each one to make them different colors).@Amazing Ampharos If this isn't the case already is each custom set tied to a different color for recognition? Its probably too much of a hassle if its not the case since I don't think you can edit a transferred custom move set on the Wii U version, but having custom set 1 on Greninja be tied to his default, custom 2 on the red color, etc. If this is going to be the standard at tournaments later in the metagame, it would be nice if everything was organized the same at each event.
Also glad you didn't use Breezy Flight at all since I realized that I can always crawl up the stage or let myself fall (backwards) before using the Up B.
EDIT: This should be stickied, no reason for it not to be since all the data was gathered in stickied threads.
Aren't custom moves good if they make things complicated? And it's not like it's too hard to learn with most custom moves being a stronger but slower and a weaker but faster variant of the already existing move.
Solely adding complexity doesn't necessarily provide anything good to a game. But either way, complaining about "too many MUs to learn" is the scrubbiest thing I've heard in a while.
Never make it sound like you are doing something weird to their system, or infecting it with some janky thing. Remember that lots of people have no idea how customs work, and it's easily to the fearful to hear things like this.
This is a big point that many will be hung up on. Fortunately, we have the benefit of knowing this just isn't the case.
As much as I hate to say it, we can not force this. We don't want to risk making ourselves look like jerks. I mean asking is the best thing you can do but I am not saying you should not try to convince them. Just don't push them to the point that you scare them away.
It will be revised this Christmas, and then biannually.
Yes, I believe that is the plan. I'm pretty sure AA said this some page back to help alleviate confusion.
Be sure to let us know how that goes, taking notes of the biggest problems with it. The sooner we actually apply it and can address issues, the sooner it can become the mainstream thing for everyone.
Right. We want every smasher to have access to explore every move--even the ones we have concluded are terrible. (We might be wrong! Spinphony might turn out to have some secret purpose!)
You mean, there still could be hope for my Lifting Loid and Balloon Jump? *sarcasm*
Liftoff Lloid wasn't terrible when the (really stupid) double-hitbox ledge exploit existed.
I forgot that was a thing, I didn't learn about it till after the patch. But I used to use it to catch people while falling / bait them out. It's not terrible, but I see why the others are preferred.
So, does this mean this could possibly be used at Smash Xanadu next week?
Nah he's probably just interested
I thought he was the new owner of the store? Oh well, who knows? Maybe he'll rub some influence if all goes well. Whatever that may be.
Regardless of whether this happens next week, this is HUGE. Having Gimr, the co-founder of VGBC, interested means we will be having some really good exposure soon enough. I think the ball we have started to roll may just be starting to roll itself. Keep up the great work everyone!
I'd reword that to "all set at or below 0" because you can get really lucky and have one stat be exactly zero, then they can argue that they shouldn't be disqualified. Minor loophole though.
Technically a no-equipment set still has all stats at zero, so that would open the door to banning literally everyone if one were inclined to abuse the rules like that.
Emphasis on "documenting." Exposure is super important and streams are basically the best way to do that nowadays.
Took me a moment to parse this. You mean he asked you to load up the custom sets on the Wii U he uses for streaming?
...fair point.
